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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 27, 2012 17:03:47 GMT -5
Yeah but I don't think they're gonna mercy kill Matsing. We merge at 12 now remember? There's a shorter time to the merge so I think they might stick with three tribes the whole way and I really hope they do because goddamnit am I tired of straightforward merges. I really want a clusterf*** strategically competitive one like Nicaragua, Pearl Islands, or Amazon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 17:15:05 GMT -5
Yeah but I don't think they're gonna mercy kill Matsing. We merge at 12 now remember? There's a shorter time to the merge so I think they might stick with three tribes the whole way and I really hope they do because goddamnit am I tired of straightforward merges. I really want a clusterf*** strategically competitive one like Nicaragua, Pearl Islands, or Amazon. I'm with you, but it's not unusual for them to change things up in episode four, then merge in episode six. Last season, for example, although Colton's evacuation probably played a part in that. But the issue is what happens if Matsing continues to lose immunity? They may be forced to change things up.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 27, 2012 18:03:59 GMT -5
Yeah but I don't think they're gonna mercy kill Matsing. We merge at 12 now remember? There's a shorter time to the merge so I think they might stick with three tribes the whole way and I really hope they do because goddamnit am I tired of straightforward merges. I really want a clusterf*** strategically competitive one like Nicaragua, Pearl Islands, or Amazon. I'm with you, but it's not unusual for them to change things up in episode four, then merge in episode six. Last season, for example, although Colton's evacuation probably played a part in that. But the issue is what happens if Matsing continues to lose immunity? They may be forced to change things up. yeah its inevitiabe. theres always a tribe switch/assimilation when there are gimmicks. (gender, age, more than two original tribes etc.) Don't see why Matsing cant go on some sort of run though. Russell, Denise, and Malcolm are a good physical threesome. Angie might be a bit week but maybe they can get past that.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 27, 2012 19:23:34 GMT -5
See but I think that production choose to do the three tribes twist specifically to avoid a straightforward merge since they must be as tired of it as we are (you can sort of tell they hate them by how afterthought the Pagonging double boot episodes are). So I think there probably isn't a switch to two tribes coming unless they absolutely have to have one for some reason.
Sure Matsing could lose all the challenges but... then we could just end up with an Ulong situation with an even earlier merge or something. I don't know.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Sept 27, 2012 20:46:05 GMT -5
Forgot to post my review from the site I write for. Check it out if you're strategy intensive like I am. Either way, my favorite part of the episode was Penner celebrating the discovery of the idol and running right past Dana, who doesn't question what he's so happy about, or even really look in his direction at all. Also, that idol location is really conspicuous. Not since China has there been a more conspicuous idol. People are definitely going to notice the bull emblem is missing. Should be interesting, especially if a merge comes without the other tribes finding their idol, and Jonathan simply picks up two more idols. I'd laugh my ever-loving ass off. www.rickey.org/survivor-philippines-season-25-episode-2-recap-and-review-dont-be-blinded-by-the-headlights/
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Post by fw91 on Sept 27, 2012 20:53:39 GMT -5
Forgot to post my review from the site I write for. Check it out if you're strategy intensive like I am. Either way, my favorite part of the episode was Penner celebrating the discovery of the idol and running right past Dana, who doesn't question what he's so happy about, or even really look in his direction at all. Also, that idol location is really conspicuous. Not since China has there been a more conspicuous idol. People are definitely going to notice the bull emblem is missing. Should be interesting, especially if a merge comes without the other tribes finding their idol, and Jonathan simply picks up two more idols. I'd laugh my ever-loving ass off. www.rickey.org/survivor-philippines-season-25-episode-2-recap-and-review-dont-be-blinded-by-the-headlights/i thought the same way about the idol. If I figured that was the location of it, I would be inclined to leave it be for the time being. That way I wpuld camp out so to speak and watch people by the box and if the bull is missing I would blindside them, or if i sensed that I was in danger, I know when to pick it up
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Post by MGH on Sept 29, 2012 11:09:14 GMT -5
WARNING: MENTIONS A SPOILER FOR THE NEXT SEASON OF SURVIVOR...(AS IN 2013) {Spoiler}So considering that this Malcom guy comes back next season for Fans vs. Favorites, taking Troyzan's spot, he had BETTER be damn entertaining. I marked huge for Troyzan and for him to get cut at the last minute for Malcom makes me a sad panda. Regarding this... {Spoiler}Besides Malcom, could anyone who knows post the entire cast for next season? Not who wins or anything about the game, but just the cast? I'm curious.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 29, 2012 11:28:33 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I know the cast. But I'm on my phone right now and cant post the full thing atm. I just know one of the cast is a contestant that I remember you disliking quite alot on their original season.
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Post by King Boo on Sept 29, 2012 11:33:41 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I know the cast. But I'm on my phone right now and cant post the full thing atm. I just know one of the cast is a contestant that I remember you disliking quite alot on their original season. {Spoiler}Now I'm scared haha.
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Post by trollrogue on Sept 29, 2012 13:45:50 GMT -5
I liked Roxy being voted off if only to avoid the nastiness of a "God"-led tribe as it was during Coach's last run. Doing anything against the alliance leader is tantamount to sin, and you'd be sure that all the loyal Christians under them would tattle in a heartbeat, organized religion is probably the cheapest way to get into the final four.
Russell seems like a religious guy so that could've easily been the case if he took out Angie instead-- but I actually do like Russell and want to see what would've happened if he were allowed to stay in the game as the Alpha against Russell Hantz. I see Penner playing the Hantz role (to a tee with that HII he has unawares to everyone else on his back-to-back-wins tribe) especially with the cocky derby he wears, so yay for getting to see my Fantasy Dream Survivor Match without actually having to deal with Russell Hantz hogging the spotlight!
I didn't really like much else in this episode, the Brazilian player going paranoid on day 4/5 after she made a final 2 alliance with CJ rubbed me the wrong way. I'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt and say it was due to the rain torture and a temp mindfart, but to say out loud that she doesn't trust her alliance partner when she talks to other players is dumbdumbdumb.
I really don't have any picks so far but guntomyhead... the way BlairLisa led her team to victory even after the #SurvivorMeltdown makes her in my eyes the most deserving to win 1M at this point. I hope she goes farther than she thinks she can, at least!
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Post by trollrogue on Sept 29, 2012 14:17:36 GMT -5
it depends on what kind of person you are though. There have been plenty of cute blondes that Jeff hasn't blasted though (Natalie White, Whitney from South Pacific, Ashley from redmption island, and even Andrea) and all of them had shown that they have some mind for the game. I understand your point of view, but I think it has to do with having a head for the game rather than "Oh you're a cute girl get outta here" Natalie W was assisting production favorite Russell which is the key way to escape Probst hatred as I've mentioned before. Whitney I would actually disagree I swear I remember her getting Probst hate at some point. Ashley was enabling Boston Rob. Andrea was basically not even a cute young blonde girl. Yeah she was cute young and blonde but she doesn't actually fit into that archetype at all because she was a hard worker and a scrapper and a lot of things that just... she doesn't fit the archetype so I don't even really think she counts. That and she was enabling Boston Rob. Furthermore I think Angie has proved that she has "some mind for the game" in episode 1 where she actually showed some aggressive play and put some effort into things unlike say... a Natalie Tenerelli which I actually though preseason that she would end up as a Natalie T type passive beta girl. And one last point that someone else made on another forum that was interesting and indeed why I'm making this post at all If Fabio had made the "Cookies" comment... just think about how Probst and the editors and everyone would have reacted to that huh? Would have been presented as another adorable idiot Fabio moment. To me Angie wasn't being "stupid" she was being positive and upbeat and since that threw Probst's attempt to cause some drama with his question in his FACE he got upset and unleashed on her and REALLY OBVIOUSLY unleashed on her to a very unprofessional degree. I think that for whatever reason Probst has a specific problem with people like Angie and Kelly C and that layers on top of Probst's existing sexism (which yes I really do think he's a casual sexist). If you don't agree that's fine but I'm going to make the point where I can because I'm kinda passionate about it lately. It actually looked like they edited out some stuff Jeff said. He clapped in Angie's face like a disobedient dog at one point and shouted "Wake up! These are real stakes!" or something and it was clear that he felt disrespected by the cookies comment. But probably what really ticked him off was that she was attempted to do it in a cute way that made her non-answer seem admirable to her tribe/the TV audience. So Jeff had to subtly influence the way people end up viewing her answer-- as a joke from a ditzy blonde. It IS sexist in several ways, and I'm one of the last people to defend anything remotely feminist in scope. But Jeff should really apologize for the handclap and the way he's interfered with the game. When he makes fun of Tarzan, or Coach, or Fabio he does it with the air of these guys are to be respected. Even though they are occasionally looney tunes! They are always 'great for the show' and 'very entertaining to watch'... But a cute girl that admittedly doesn't even try to bring anything else but her (formidable) sex appeal to the table should be respected for agreeing to play Survivor just the same. I'm sure a lot of guys will tune in just to see her in a bikini, so it's not like she's not bringing in lots of viewers with her sexy antics. Literally all she's done this whole game is slowly seduce Malcom into an alliance with the infamous 'boobie trap', so if Jeff likes ratings and respects "characters" why not Angie? It goes back to her comment of 'cookies'. And I agree that on many levels the answer is indefensible. But Jeff's reaction should, at most, be jovial indifference. He was visibly angry at Angie for giving that answer, and kinda pressured the others to vote her out I felt. That's even more indefensible, to me.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 29, 2012 14:22:14 GMT -5
I liked Roxy being voted off if only to avoid the nastiness of a "God"-led tribe as it was during Coach's last run. Doing anything against the alliance leader is tantamount to sin, and you'd be sure that all the loyal Christians under them would tattle in a heartbeat, organized religion is probably the cheapest way to get into the final four. Russell seems like a religious guy so that could've easily been the case if he took out Angie instead-- but I actually do like Russell and want to see what would've happened if he were allowed to stay in the game as the Alpha against Russell Hantz. I see Penner playing the Hantz role (to a tee with that HII he has unawares to everyone else on his back-to-back-wins tribe) especially with the cocky derby he wears, so yay for getting to see my Fantasy Dream Survivor Match without actually having to deal with Russell Hantz hogging the spotlight! I didn't really like much else in this episode, the Brazilian player going paranoid on day 4/5 after she made a final 2 alliance with CJ rubbed me the wrong way. I'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt and say it was due to the rain torture and a temp mindfart, but to say out loud that she doesn't trust her alliance partner when she talks to other players is dumbdumbdumb. I really don't have any picks so far but guntomyhead... the way BlairLisa led her team to victory even after the #SurvivorMeltdown makes her in my eyes the most deserving to win 1M at this point. I hope she goes farther than she thinks she can, at least! well based on editing, i can see lisa as one of a few who can win this game, (editing has been terrible thus far, barely know anyone on the red tribe) the others being Penner, Denise, Malcolm, RC, and an outside shot of Skupin, but Denise is getting the "winner's edit" right know and as for the spoiler regarding next season from what i've read {Spoiler} John Cochran Brandon Hantz Phillip Sheppard Corinne Kaplan Francesca Hogi Dawn Meehan Brenda Lowe Andrea Boehlke Erik Reichenbach(not sure) Greg "Tarzan" Smith(not sure) But from what I've read MALCOLM IS IN, so perhaps Erick or Tarzan are out?
Guess a lot of people declined? Kinda not liking these picks. Except Phil and Andrea. Seriously first boot Francesca? I honestly would like to see Grant(RI), Marty(Nicaragua), Kat(One World), Jim Rice(South Pacific), Jaison,(Samoa) Shambo(Samoa), Matty(Gabon), Dave Ball (Samoa) Holly (Nicaragua) Ashley (Redemption Island) Jay (One World) Jonas One World) hell even Matt Elrod (RI) over anybofy on that list besides Phil and Andrea
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Post by King Boo on Sept 29, 2012 14:29:05 GMT -5
and as for the spoiler regarding next season from what i've read {Spoiler} John Cochran Brandon Hantz Phillip Sheppard Corinne Kaplan Francesca Hogi Dawn Meehan Brenda Lowe Andrea Boehlke Erik Reichenbach(not sure) Greg "Tarzan" Smith(not sure) But from what I've read MALCOLM IS IN, so perhaps Erick or Tarzan are out?
Guess a lot of people declined? Kinda not liking these picks. Except Phil and Andrea. Seriously first boot Francesca? I honestly would like to see Grant(RI), Marty(Nicaragua), Kat(One World), Jim Rice(South Pacific), Jaison,(Samoa) Shambo(Samoa), Matty(Gabon), Dave Ball (Samoa) Holly (Nicaragua) Ashley (Redemption Island) Jay (One World) Jonas One World) hell even Matt Elrod (RI) over anybofy on that list besides Phil and Andrea {Spoiler}Meh. The person I'd be most excited to see again from this list, at this point, is Malcolm. I think that kind of says it all.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 29, 2012 19:42:53 GMT -5
S26 s*** {Spoiler}Its Tarzan thats not in. Noone from One World got in. Other than that that list is accurate.
Also I think the Troyzan was a last minute cut thing was disproven? Didnt Troyzan say he didnt want to do it because he wanted to do a FULL Allstars season??? I remember hearing that somewhere.
Anyway as for the list itself I feel like... Brandon, Cochran, and Phillip were all going to return someday but I wanted it to not be so soon because they are charachters I appreciate but I got too much of them too soon.
Im SUPER excited for Erik though. I've wanted him to return for awhile. Guy needs a chance at redemption and I think he can get it. I loved him in Micro. And I love Malcom already so I hope I don't get tired of him by the end of the season.
The women are... Pretty good? Im at least interested in all five of them. But I saw a potential list of last minute cuts that I might go grab after I post this that seemed a lot better.
Obviously I love Andrea that is just known. I dislike Corinne but I think she's just FEELS right as a casting choice because she's kinda just... fresh and interesting and unexpected.
Dawn is a personal favorite of mine but she shouldn't be in there if Holly was willing to go out there since Dawn was pretty much Holly lite in my eyes and Holly is an all time favorite. Fran is random as f*** but I like her and I am interested to see how she does.
Last there's Brenda who was a shoe in to return and I'm interested to see how she manages to follow up her last performance. And if not well she's hot and I'll enjoy looking at her again.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 29, 2012 20:02:04 GMT -5
OK yeah I went to my Survivor Forum and got this list. Apparently originally S26 was going to be a full Second Chances/Unifinished Bussiness season featuring nonwinners and a fair amount of premergers. But they decided to do Fans vs Favorites at the last minute yet AGAIN just like they did for the first FvF and cut half the people. There's absolutly no proof that this list is true but apparently the source is pretty reliable? And I think its interesting for spec reasons and for discussing who might return in even later on seasons so here it is... The list of suspected last minute cuts (more than ten of them I should add so I guess they were still deciding the final list when they decided to cut it down to ten returnees if this list is true) {Spoiler}Men: Marty Piombo Jim Rice David Murphy Andrew Savage Ace Gordon Stephen Fishbach Billy Garcia
Women: Jane Bright Michelle Yi Monica Padilla Stephanie Valencia Holly Hoffman Tracy Hughes-Wolfe
My thoughts are this. Thats an AWFUL lot of faux-mastermind white urban professionals for one cast. Jim and David were practically the same charachter and Marty is in about the same too. Ace is about the same too only more overtly negative and accent. They are ALL people I'd like to see given a second shot. I only care that much for Marty of those guys. David was actually pretty bad in retrospect and Jim was hit or miss but I wouldn't mind seeing them given a second shot. And Ace was a standout premerge charachter I think so another go around for him would have been fun. But not all at the same time.
Stephen is a strategist too just a more positive one. Obviously we ALL want to see Fishy get a second shot and I'm confident he will be. I imagine they cut him because when they cut it down to five guys they decided to pick only one of him and Cochran... and I think they chose the wrong one. Hell Kenny Hoang would have been better than Cochran too!!!
I want to see Savage get another go and I know Probst does too. Thats all I got there. Billy is sooooo random and while I like him I'm not sure what casting's obession with him is since weren't there rumors of him being considered for HEROES VS VILLIANS of all things. He fits ok in a second chance season but there are better choices for his spot I think.
I LOVE the women list though oh my god. Holly I mentioned is an all time favorite and such a standout and needs to return. Jane is a fan favorite so she'll come back someday. I imagine they cute her to save her for a full Allstars or something?
Michelle is ALWAYS in the casting rumors for every returnee season and I want to see her on my screen again. She was cute and funny and I want to see her given another shot. Stephanie was a stand out from what I thought was a pretty awful season and for sure a huge charachter and should be interesting on a second go around. M
Monica is suprising but I hope its true because she actually had a ton of personality and wasted potential so she deserves another shot I think. Then again I want pretty much the whole Galu tribe to get another go just because they all had so much personlity and were wasted beause Samoa was the Hantz show and their tribe was always winning.
I WANT TO SEE TRACY BACK SOOOO BAD SHE HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL. She was great in Micro as the older woman manipulating Joel's ego to save her weak allies and shit. Loved her. So I hope its true that she was considered and is still on the minds of production.
That list lacks One Worlders so if its true I want to throw out the possibility that One World is going to get "Guatemala'd" and never have a single returnee.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 29, 2012 21:25:10 GMT -5
OK yeah I went to my Survivor Forum and got this list. Apparently originally S26 was going to be a full Second Chances/Unifinished Bussiness season featuring nonwinners and a fair amount of premergers. But they decided to do Fans vs Favorites at the last minute yet AGAIN just like they did for the first FvF and cut half the people. There's absolutly no proof that this list is true but apparently the source is pretty reliable? And I think its interesting for spec reasons and for discussing who might return in even later on seasons so here it is... The list of suspected last minute cuts (more than ten of them I should add so I guess they were still deciding the final list when they decided to cut it down to ten returnees if this list is true) {Spoiler}Men: Marty Piombo Jim Rice David Murphy Andrew Savage Ace Gordon Stephen Fishbach Billy Garcia
Women: Jane Bright Michelle Yi Monica Padilla Stephanie Valencia Holly Hoffman Tracy Hughes-Wolfe
My thoughts are this. Thats an AWFUL lot of faux-mastermind white urban professionals for one cast. Jim and David were practically the same charachter and Marty is in about the same too. Ace is about the same too only more overtly negative and accent. They are ALL people I'd like to see given a second shot. I only care that much for Marty of those guys. David was actually pretty bad in retrospect and Jim was hit or miss but I wouldn't mind seeing them given a second shot. And Ace was a standout premerge charachter I think so another go around for him would have been fun. But not all at the same time.
Stephen is a strategist too just a more positive one. Obviously we ALL want to see Fishy get a second shot and I'm confident he will be. I imagine they cut him because when they cut it down to five guys they decided to pick only one of him and Cochran... and I think they chose the wrong one. Hell Kenny Hoang would have been better than Cochran too!!!
I want to see Savage get another go and I know Probst does too. Thats all I got there. Billy is sooooo random and while I like him I'm not sure what casting's obession with him is since weren't there rumors of him being considered for HEROES VS VILLIANS of all things. He fits ok in a second chance season but there are better choices for his spot I think.
I LOVE the women list though oh my god. Holly I mentioned is an all time favorite and such a standout and needs to return. Jane is a fan favorite so she'll come back someday. I imagine they cute her to save her for a full Allstars or something?
Michelle is ALWAYS in the casting rumors for every returnee season and I want to see her on my screen again. She was cute and funny and I want to see her given another shot. Stephanie was a stand out from what I thought was a pretty awful season and for sure a huge charachter and should be interesting on a second go around. M
Monica is suprising but I hope its true because she actually had a ton of personality and wasted potential so she deserves another shot I think. Then again I want pretty much the whole Galu tribe to get another go just because they all had so much personlity and were wasted beause Samoa was the Hantz show and their tribe was always winning.
I WANT TO SEE TRACY BACK SOOOO BAD SHE HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL. She was great in Micro as the older woman manipulating Joel's ego to save her weak allies and s***. Loved her. So I hope its true that she was considered and is still on the minds of production.
That list lacks One Worlders so if its true I want to throw out the possibility that One World is going to get "Guatemala'd" and never have a single returnee. {Spoiler}thank god they cut Jane, total bitch in my books. Yeah I get it, she was an elder woman who was great in challenges and whatnot, but the way she treated others, especially Marty was unwarranted, and she was so self rightous imo. But when you see names like Ace, Billy, Savage etc. Its almost like they need to have a second chance/pre-merge season. And Guatemala had such an awesome cast that I would love to see almost the whole merge tribe from that season back. Especially Judd but that will never happen.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Sept 30, 2012 3:04:11 GMT -5
{Spoiler} Wow are ratings in the toilet? Those men, specifically, Cochran, Brandon, Phillip and Tarzan are some of the worst players to ever play. They made it far BECAUSE of how bad they were. They were entertaining only in a how bad they were sort of way, but all together would be damn fool overload. I like Brandon too, but damn that's going to be ugly. I mean when you think favorites or all stars you don't really think Phillip or Tarzan do you? Compare that list to the HvV or first all stars and it looks like this show needs advice from Kirk Lazarus:
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Post by unoriginalalex on Sept 30, 2012 9:43:45 GMT -5
{Spoiler}the men for that tribe look terrible. I haven't yet watched any of this season, but once I do(prob later today) i'll join in with you guys.
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Post by fw91 on Oct 3, 2012 19:04:52 GMT -5
russell's goning home tonight, they just kinda wrote the story with that intro
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Post by fw91 on Oct 3, 2012 19:11:06 GMT -5
Pete speaks?
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