King Ghidorah
El Dandy
On Probation for Charges of two counts of Saxual Music.
How Absurd
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Post by King Ghidorah on Jun 9, 2012 23:53:07 GMT -5
I do have to wonder where the cops were if this asshole had actually called the cops about the noise several times. If anyone should have been confronting the party people it should have been them. Is there any proof that he had actually given the cops enough time to get there from when he first called them? Nothing on that yet, and will probably be a major talking point. It did have another "Dispatcher says don't go" thing.
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Post by Error on Jun 10, 2012 0:06:39 GMT -5
The guy actally made sure he stayed in the road when he killed him, he went through the steps very meticulously. Yeah, I made that post before watching the actual video and was basing my statement on the fact that the dead guy died in his own driveway. Fine, maybe point 1 does work in his favor, but after seeing that video I cannot think that it was anything but premeditation on his part. Point 2 still works against him. Here's the thing for me. I don't disagree with the Castle Doctrine when it applies to your own property. It is the concealed weapons license that allows deadly force to be applied anywhere. That is just asinine. Because of that you have instances like this where someone clearly provoked a fight, brandished a weapon, and shot 3 men because he was angry. I do have to wonder where the cops were if this asshole had actually called the cops about the noise several times. If anyone should have been confronting the party people it should have been them. Is there any proof that he had actually given the cops enough time to get there from when he first called them? First to your previous post, armed or not does not matter, if you fear for your life, your family or your property you have the right to defend yourself here. Likewise if you witness someone else in danger of rape, kidnapping, murder or assault. On to this post, a noise call like this will be extremely low priority unless there are calls from multiple people in the area. Response all depends on how many calls are coming in, what those calls are and who is available.
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Dr. T is an alien
Patti Mayonnaise
Knows when to hold them, knows when to fold them
I've been found out!
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jun 10, 2012 0:15:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I made that post before watching the actual video and was basing my statement on the fact that the dead guy died in his own driveway. Fine, maybe point 1 does work in his favor, but after seeing that video I cannot think that it was anything but premeditation on his part. Point 2 still works against him. Here's the thing for me. I don't disagree with the Castle Doctrine when it applies to your own property. It is the concealed weapons license that allows deadly force to be applied anywhere. That is just asinine. Because of that you have instances like this where someone clearly provoked a fight, brandished a weapon, and shot 3 men because he was angry. I do have to wonder where the cops were if this asshole had actually called the cops about the noise several times. If anyone should have been confronting the party people it should have been them. Is there any proof that he had actually given the cops enough time to get there from when he first called them? First to your previous post, armed or not does not matter, if you fear for your life, your family or your property you have the right to defend yourself here. Likewise if you witness someone else in danger of rape, kidnapping, murder or assault. On to this post, a noise call like this will be extremely low priority unless there are calls from multiple people in the area. Response all depends on how many calls are coming in, what those calls are and who is available. I guess I am just spoiled. I live in a college town and the cops come on any noise complaints here, which as you might imagine is pretty numerous on the weekends.
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Post by Piccolo on Jun 10, 2012 6:26:32 GMT -5
Heh. Yeah, this isn't gonna fly. No judge or jury is really going to believe this guy was in fear for his life. Zimmerman at least had the face and head injuries to corroborate his story about getting his head smashed on the concrete, and witnesses who saw a physical struggle prior to the gun going off.
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Post by "I'm Batman..." on Jun 11, 2012 13:42:48 GMT -5
That's just ridiculous.
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King Ghidorah
El Dandy
On Probation for Charges of two counts of Saxual Music.
How Absurd
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Post by King Ghidorah on Jun 14, 2012 10:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jun 14, 2012 11:04:28 GMT -5
Good. Let Rodriguez rot in jail and be violated by other inmates.
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Post by That Mickie Fan on Jun 14, 2012 11:06:01 GMT -5
Good. There was nothing threatening about the noise. Just an excuse to shoot someone
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 14, 2012 11:09:42 GMT -5
I'm all for Castle Doctrine (here in Canada, if someone breaks into your house or threatens your family your supposed to just bend over and take it), but this was absolutely an abuse of it. Or atleast an attempt to abuse
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jun 14, 2012 11:19:59 GMT -5
(here in Canada, if someone breaks into your house or threatens your family your supposed to just bend over and take it) I feel bad for you. This might be my favorite reason for living in Texas
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