hassanchop
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Post by hassanchop on Sept 21, 2011 3:48:44 GMT -5
Not trying to defend him, but apparently he did this video before his house got raided FWIW. He did it after Reby called 911 on him. She called these guys on him?
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Sept 21, 2011 5:18:15 GMT -5
What? Is this in the wrong thread, or is this a reference I do not get? One of the items seized is a K2 smoke packet. k2 - Kelly Kelly... see what he did there and once again all I have to say is... dammit Matt... Ahhhhhhh....I get it now...lack of sleep makes my usual witty self a dullard...
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Lardlad
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Post by Lardlad on Sept 21, 2011 7:22:20 GMT -5
Really hoping this isn't another suicide note, but we'll probably never find out what the note is all about....
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Post by ACG2x on Sept 21, 2011 7:34:56 GMT -5
Really hoping this isn't another suicide note, but we'll probably never find out what the note is all about.... Nah, as soon as Matt gets access to Twitter, Facebook, YouTube or any other form of social media again, we'll get a 4,000 word essay about its entire contents.
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Post by willywonka666 on Sept 21, 2011 9:49:43 GMT -5
At least he's volunteered for rehab and the E is covering the costs. It's for 3 months and hopefully if he's serious about getting help, this will , well, help
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Sept 21, 2011 10:54:23 GMT -5
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Post by Bishblast on Sept 21, 2011 10:57:26 GMT -5
Anyone thinking that Matt Hardy won't get off as easy as Jeff did in his drug case, for some reason?
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Post by angryfan on Sept 21, 2011 11:06:28 GMT -5
Reby has now moved into CYA mode. Did they question her? I would, if she reports "he's strung out on pills" then I'm damn sure goin to want to to know what kind of pills. So, yes I'm going to say "come down and we'll ask questions". SHe was never under arrest, which means she could have either walked our or lawyered up at any time and it would have stopped, they wouldn't have had the info for a search warrant, and they could go on doing the same dumb stuff over and over again. She said what she said out of fear for Matt's safety, which I agree is the right thing to do. Yeah, Matt is facing charges, and that's where the remorse comes from. She doesn't want him to "get in trouble" for the stuff, so say "they MADE me!" and suddently the focus isn't on her anymore.
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Ace Baretta
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Post by Ace Baretta on Sept 21, 2011 11:36:09 GMT -5
Seriously, does ANYONE in the Hardy camp have any accountability? Or is it just so much more fun/easy/attention seeking to play the "poor me" card and have a victim's mentality about EVERYTHING?
God damn it I hate these guys so very much.
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Post by crimsonwolf on Sept 21, 2011 12:16:38 GMT -5
Anyone thinking that Matt Hardy won't get off as easy as Jeff did in his drug case, for some reason? It certainly doesn't help that Matt has been having issues with the law over the past month.
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Dr. T is an alien
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 21, 2011 12:26:04 GMT -5
Reby has now moved into CYA mode. Did they question her? I would, if she reports "he's strung out on pills" then I'm damn sure goin to want to to know what kind of pills. So, yes I'm going to say "come down and we'll ask questions". SHe was never under arrest, which means she could have either walked our or lawyered up at any time and it would have stopped, they wouldn't have had the info for a search warrant, and they could go on doing the same dumb stuff over and over again. She said what she said out of fear for Matt's safety, which I agree is the right thing to do. Yeah, Matt is facing charges, and that's where the remorse comes from. She doesn't want him to "get in trouble" for the stuff, so say "they MADE me!" and suddently the focus isn't on her anymore. You are aware that some people do not understand what the right to remain silent really means, don't you? Reby does not strike me as being any smarter than the rest of Matt's group so she might not really understand that she had the right to say that she was not answering any questions. If they did threaten her with charges then she should have asked for a lawyer right then and there, but I don't know that she is sharp enough to know that. Granted, I am not saying that she was threatened (though implying possible future consequences are legal, as far as I know). Again, none of that condones what Matt got arrested for. If she is telling the truth now then you know that they were gunning for Matt the whole time (which, to be fair, makes the local roads safer).
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Ace Baretta
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Post by Ace Baretta on Sept 21, 2011 12:33:02 GMT -5
Reby has now moved into CYA mode. Did they question her? I would, if she reports "he's strung out on pills" then I'm damn sure goin to want to to know what kind of pills. So, yes I'm going to say "come down and we'll ask questions". SHe was never under arrest, which means she could have either walked our or lawyered up at any time and it would have stopped, they wouldn't have had the info for a search warrant, and they could go on doing the same dumb stuff over and over again. She said what she said out of fear for Matt's safety, which I agree is the right thing to do. Yeah, Matt is facing charges, and that's where the remorse comes from. She doesn't want him to "get in trouble" for the stuff, so say "they MADE me!" and suddently the focus isn't on her anymore. You are aware that some people do not understand what the right to remain silent really means, don't you? Reby does not strike me as being any smarter than the rest of Matt's group so she might not really understand that she had the right to say that she was not answering any questions. If they did threaten her with charges then she should have asked for a lawyer right then and there, but I don't know that she is sharp enough to know that. Granted, I am not saying that she was threatened (though implying possible future consequences are legal, as far as I know). Again, none of that condones what Matt got arrested for. If she is telling the truth now then you know that they were gunning for Matt the whole time (which, to be fair, makes the local roads safer). If they didn't have enough to "gun" for him from the previous arrests/erratic driving/corvette thrashing/whatever else he's done in the last 4 weeks then they weren't gonna get it. It was a basic line of questions. What did he take, where did he get it, how in danger are you/concerned for your safety. What she did, she did of her own free will. I don't know what your major issue with this is, because everything was done by the book, in accordance to the law, or else Hardy's lawyers would be having a freaking field day with this. If it was so bad and so intimidating, why didn't she lawyer up? If it was a true interrogation, why didn't they Mirandize her? At ANY time in her line of questioning she could have asked for a lawyer to be present, and didn't. She willingly and knowingly gave them information that led to the search warrant. Depending on whose story you believe (reports from TMZ or her victim playing), she either personally led them straight to "The Hardyz Zecret Zafe O'Drugz(tm)" or just told them where it is. Either way, she did so of her own free will and must never have felt the need to lawyer up. So, really, this issue you seem to have with police procedure and whatnot? It's getting a bit much.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 21, 2011 13:53:05 GMT -5
You are aware that some people do not understand what the right to remain silent really means, don't you? Reby does not strike me as being any smarter than the rest of Matt's group so she might not really understand that she had the right to say that she was not answering any questions. If they did threaten her with charges then she should have asked for a lawyer right then and there, but I don't know that she is sharp enough to know that. Granted, I am not saying that she was threatened (though implying possible future consequences are legal, as far as I know). Again, none of that condones what Matt got arrested for. If she is telling the truth now then you know that they were gunning for Matt the whole time (which, to be fair, makes the local roads safer). If they didn't have enough to "gun" for him from the previous arrests/erratic driving/corvette thrashing/whatever else he's done in the last 4 weeks then they weren't gonna get it. It was a basic line of questions. What did he take, where did he get it, how in danger are you/concerned for your safety. What she did, she did of her own free will. I don't know what your major issue with this is, because everything was done by the book, in accordance to the law, or else Hardy's lawyers would be having a freaking field day with this. If it was so bad and so intimidating, why didn't she lawyer up? If it was a true interrogation, why didn't they Mirandize her? At ANY time in her line of questioning she could have asked for a lawyer to be present, and didn't. She willingly and knowingly gave them information that led to the search warrant. Depending on whose story you believe (reports from TMZ or her victim playing), she either personally led them straight to "The Hardyz Zecret Zafe O'Drugz(tm)" or just told them where it is. Either way, she did so of her own free will and must never have felt the need to lawyer up. So, really, this issue you seem to have with police procedure and whatnot? It's getting a bit much. My issue with police procedure stems from having family get not only railroaded by bad cops but literally having their life threatened by a crooked cop who viewed my then 16 year old brother as a threat to his relationship with his (the cop's) underage girlfriend. Yes, it was the act of one bad cop and not a pandemic that is sweeping the nation, though there are plenty of examples of the minute minority of cops who don't do what they are supposed to. I want cops and anyone else in a position of authority to do what they are supposed to do as one bad act by a bad cop can cost people their lives. If all the good cops adhere to the rules the bad cops will stand out and can be removed from their posts. If all the decent cops bend the rules then the bad ones can hide behind all of that. In regards to Reby's recent claims, she is damned either way the story goes. I was willing to praise her doing something that was decidedly not the act of an enabler when she supposedly called the cops, but if she did that then she should be willing to stand by her act. If that is what happened then she lost the respect that I was willing to give for making the tough call. That is not what she is claiming, however. Her story does not remove her from the potential enabler role one bit. Her story is that she called 911 for emergency medical help. The thing is that when it is medical there is good reason that there is such a thing as doctor-patient confidentiality. If every druggie that takes too much is going to get the cops called on them for seeking medical help, they will stop doing it and some people will die. There are supposed to be laws about preventing the police from using a 911 call for emergency medical help against the patient in question as it is a medical situation, something that they are not allowed to be privy to without the consent of the patient or a legal family member (which Reby is not). If the cops based their warrant off of questioning stemming from a medical 911 call, the entire search might be invalidated. That would be a shame. Hardy SHOULD get in trouble, but it must be done the right way. It sets a dangerous precedent to do so otherwise, not only because it sets the stage for later violation of the rights of others but because it causes more people to mistrust the cops and, most importantly, potentially sets the stage for Hardy to be freed of charges. Look, if TMZ or Reby are full of crap and everything truly was done on the up and up, then I have absolutely no problems with it. You might notice that I did not have a single objection to Matt's other arrests (just concerns that whatever Matt was on might not show up in a drug screen). I have no doubts that Matt had the things that they say that he had. I just cannot shake the feeling that something is off. To be honest, what could be off is just that the grounds for the warrant has not been adequately explained in these online reports (shocking idea, I know). If that is the case, again, I have no problems. To conclude, I care about the police procedures because we all should. It is not just Matt Hardy's rights that could be affected if procedures are not followed to the letter. Even worse, if Matt gets off on the technicalities that I fear could be argued, he might not change a thing, get next-level-stupid on mushrooms, get behind the wheel and actually kill someone this time. It is that important.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Sept 21, 2011 13:54:26 GMT -5
;D
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 21, 2011 13:59:04 GMT -5
Why, oh why has no one taken his smart phones and computers away from him yet?
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Post by hargh on Sept 21, 2011 13:59:06 GMT -5
Best thing Matt has ever done. Here's hoping he sticks with it and gets his life together, because if he doesn't, he may not have much more of one.
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Fiddleford H. McGucket
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Sept 21, 2011 13:59:58 GMT -5
Matt......It's not junk food that got you in trouble......
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Post by Corporate H on Sept 21, 2011 14:05:56 GMT -5
Are we just re-posting everything from his Twitter page now? Realize you're feeding him worse than he feeds himself.
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Post by Ace Baretta on Sept 21, 2011 14:08:25 GMT -5
If they didn't have enough to "gun" for him from the previous arrests/erratic driving/corvette thrashing/whatever else he's done in the last 4 weeks then they weren't gonna get it. It was a basic line of questions. What did he take, where did he get it, how in danger are you/concerned for your safety. What she did, she did of her own free will. I don't know what your major issue with this is, because everything was done by the book, in accordance to the law, or else Hardy's lawyers would be having a freaking field day with this. If it was so bad and so intimidating, why didn't she lawyer up? If it was a true interrogation, why didn't they Mirandize her? At ANY time in her line of questioning she could have asked for a lawyer to be present, and didn't. She willingly and knowingly gave them information that led to the search warrant. Depending on whose story you believe (reports from TMZ or her victim playing), she either personally led them straight to "The Hardyz Zecret Zafe O'Drugz(tm)" or just told them where it is. Either way, she did so of her own free will and must never have felt the need to lawyer up. So, really, this issue you seem to have with police procedure and whatnot? It's getting a bit much. My issue with police procedure stems from having family get not only railroaded by bad cops but literally having their life threatened by a crooked cop who viewed my then 16 year old brother as a threat to his relationship with his (the cop's) underage girlfriend. Yes, it was the act of one bad cop and not a pandemic that is sweeping the nation, though there are plenty of examples of the minute minority of cops who don't do what they are supposed to. I want cops and anyone else in a position of authority to do what they are supposed to do as one bad act by a bad cop can cost people their lives. If all the good cops adhere to the rules the bad cops will stand out and can be removed from their posts. If all the decent cops bend the rules then the bad ones can hide behind all of that. In regards to Reby's recent claims, she is damned either way the story goes. I was willing to praise her doing something that was decidedly not the act of an enabler when she supposedly called the cops, but if she did that then she should be willing to stand by her act. If that is what happened then she lost the respect that I was willing to give for making the tough call. That is not what she is claiming, however. Her story does not remove her from the potential enabler role one bit. Her story is that she called 911 for emergency medical help. The thing is that when it is medical there is good reason that there is such a thing as doctor-patient confidentiality. If every druggie that takes too much is going to get the cops called on them for seeking medical help, they will stop doing it and some people will die. There are supposed to be laws about preventing the police from using a 911 call for emergency medical help against the patient in question as it is a medical situation, something that they are not allowed to be privy to without the consent of the patient or a legal family member (which Reby is not). If the cops based their warrant off of questioning stemming from a medical 911 call, the entire search might be invalidated. That would be a shame. Hardy SHOULD get in trouble, but it must be done the right way. It sets a dangerous precedent to do so otherwise, not only because it sets the stage for later violation of the rights of others but because it causes more people to mistrust the cops and, most importantly, potentially sets the stage for Hardy to be freed of charges. Look, if TMZ or Reby are full of crap and everything truly was done on the up and up, then I have absolutely no problems with it. You might notice that I did not have a single objection to Matt's other arrests (just concerns that whatever Matt was on might not show up in a drug screen). I have no doubts that Matt had the things that they say that he had. I just cannot shake the feeling that something is off. To be honest, what could be off is just that the grounds for the warrant has not been adequately explained in these online reports (shocking idea, I know). If that is the case, again, I have no problems. To conclude, I care about the police procedures because we all should. It is not just Matt Hardy's rights that could be affected if procedures are not followed to the letter. Even worse, if Matt gets off on the technicalities that I fear could be argued, he might not change a thing, get next-level-stupid on mushrooms, get behind the wheel and actually kill someone this time. It is that important. I'm not completely up on my legalese, but, if you're interested in reading the 17 page warrant (which includes the officer's story), it's out there, I found it on TMZ, myself, and to me it looks like everything is on the up and up.
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Post by Branimal on Sept 21, 2011 14:10:24 GMT -5
I have a question.
With Matt going into rehab, does this mean he won't have access to social media/internet? I'd be happy if that was the case.
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