Sephiroth
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 21, 2012 6:32:49 GMT -5
Brodus' face really sells that one.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 21, 2012 6:35:17 GMT -5
Really? I think Maryse looks pretty bad there.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Oct 21, 2012 6:56:34 GMT -5
Really? I think Maryse looks pretty bad there. Her face looks off. Rest of her's fine though!
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Bam Neeley
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Post by Bam Neeley on Oct 21, 2012 8:56:21 GMT -5
I sure hope those are not professionally shot photos. The lighting looks horrible.
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Post by dreamer75 on Oct 21, 2012 9:38:01 GMT -5
Brodus' face really sells that one. Even Brodus is damn thats too much ass!
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Post by norsisclouds on Oct 21, 2012 10:50:38 GMT -5
Oh, I don't think it's a "against black wrestlers" thing. But your Angela Fong example shows that there is a bias towards white women. Namely the stereotypical blonde bombshell. Bolded for emphasis. As Serena and Molly Holly show, it's not so much about race as it is a very specific Diva archetype; blonde, buxom, and considered attractive, i.e. Sunny/Blayze/Sable/Stratus. Melina, Mickie James, and Lita are about the only Divas I can think of who became major faces in the Divas division without fitting into said archetype and one of them had to go through tables while another spent most of her WrestleMania debut getting to second base with her opponent. But what you're pointing out will always be about race ^ Unless you get a Black person who's Anglo heritage is so strong that they can achieve that blonde hair blue eyed look, this is a feminine archetype of attractiveness that will always exclude people of color 9 times out of 10. Melina, Mickie James and Lita were great because they broke away from that, especially Melina and Mickie...but they were always treated as seconds to Michelle McCool, Trish Stratus, Kelly Kelly, etc... the list goes on. Ever since Sunny there's been a blond blond blond emphasis in the division, Candice Michelle is the only bombshell type that looked like they were trying to break away from that, but even then they were working on Ashley and building Michelle slowly in the background. WWE's preoccupation with blondes is pretty mainstream, if behind the times by a few years. It probably is all about marketability and what they think/know (I can only assume they do some type of marketing research, but this is WWE so who knows) will put butts in seats or make the audience care... I just kinda had to shake my head--how can a beauty standard that majority of person of color can never achieve not be about race? OK backing out again slowly I just had to comment...
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Magnus the Magnificent
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Oct 21, 2012 13:52:38 GMT -5
Brodus' face really sells that one. Even Brodus is damn thats too much ass! Impossible! There's no such thing as "too much ass!" Shame on you for suggesting that!
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Post by Indiana Miz on Oct 21, 2012 13:55:24 GMT -5
Looking at these pictures really puts into perspective how small the Divas roster is right now. Just one of those teams is about the same amount of women on the roster that are currently wrestling.
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Post by lovingway on Oct 21, 2012 14:06:46 GMT -5
Even Brodus is damn thats too much ass! Impossible! There's no such thing as "too much ass!" Shame on you for suggesting that! Cue Bertha Faye pic
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greeby
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Post by greeby on Oct 21, 2012 17:17:05 GMT -5
Looking at these pictures really puts into perspective how small the Divas roster is right now. Just one of those teams is about the same amount of women on the roster that are currently wrestling. It's been like this before. From late 07 (When Brooke got fired, Candice got injured and Torrie dropped out of sight), until after Wrestlemania. There were only 8 active divas spread across three brands.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 21, 2012 17:32:08 GMT -5
Really? I think Maryse looks pretty bad there. Her face looks off. Rest of her's fine though! I wouldn't guess who it was if Yami didn't comment. She looks like a regular woman (outside her tight dress and boobs. Thank you, Maryse). Still good looking; just not the normal Maryse look.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Oct 21, 2012 17:35:40 GMT -5
Her face looks off. Rest of her's fine though! I wouldn't guess who it was if Yami didn't comment. She looks like a regular woman (outside her tight dress and boobs. Thank you, Maryse). Still good looking; just not the normal Maryse look. They are a damn fine set of tittays.
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Lila
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Post by Lila on Oct 21, 2012 18:20:01 GMT -5
{Spoiler} She kinda reminds me of a younger Sunny in this photo.
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kidkamikaze10
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Oct 21, 2012 18:40:49 GMT -5
But what you're pointing out will always be about race ^ Unless you get a Black person who's Anglo heritage is so strong that they can achieve that blonde hair blue eyed look, this is a feminine archetype of attractiveness that will always exclude people of color 9 times out of 10. Melina, Mickie James and Lita were great because they broke away from that, especially Melina and Mickie...but they were always treated as seconds to Michelle McCool, Trish Stratus, Kelly Kelly, etc... the list goes on. Ever since Sunny there's been a blond blond blond emphasis in the division, Candice Michelle is the only bombshell type that looked like they were trying to break away from that, but even then they were working on Ashley and building Michelle slowly in the background. WWE's preoccupation with blondes is pretty mainstream, if behind the times by a few years. It probably is all about marketability and what they think/know (I can only assume they do some type of marketing research, but this is WWE so who knows) will put butts in seats or make the audience care... I just kinda had to shake my head--how can a beauty standard that majority of person of color can never achieve not be about race? OK backing out again slowly I just had to comment... I think you are absolutely right, but yeah, this isn't the thread for discussion of this nature.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan on Oct 21, 2012 19:28:14 GMT -5
Can anyone re-upload this? I keep reading about it, but I can't see it. I want to!!!
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Sam Punk
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Post by Sam Punk on Oct 21, 2012 19:45:06 GMT -5
Can anyone re-upload this? I keep reading about it, but I can't see it. I want to!!! {Spoiler}
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 19:49:04 GMT -5
She can stick it out or get it photoshopped all she wants, she has got a flat butt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 19:57:19 GMT -5
Bolded for emphasis. As Serena and Molly Holly show, it's not so much about race as it is a very specific Diva archetype; blonde, buxom, and considered attractive, i.e. Sunny/Blayze/Sable/Stratus. Melina, Mickie James, and Lita are about the only Divas I can think of who became major faces in the Divas division without fitting into said archetype and one of them had to go through tables while another spent most of her WrestleMania debut getting to second base with her opponent. But what you're pointing out will always be about race ^ Unless you get a Black person who's Anglo heritage is so strong that they can achieve that blonde hair blue eyed look, this is a feminine archetype of attractiveness that will always exclude people of color 9 times out of 10. Melina, Mickie James and Lita were great because they broke away from that, especially Melina and Mickie...but they were always treated as seconds to Michelle McCool, Trish Stratus, Kelly Kelly, etc... the list goes on. Ever since Sunny there's been a blond blond blond emphasis in the division, Candice Michelle is the only bombshell type that looked like they were trying to break away from that, but even then they were working on Ashley and building Michelle slowly in the background. I found Melina's case especially funny because they used Eve to fill the niche that she held, even while she was still around in 2011 (using her for Latin American tours and media, replacing her as a face, trying to build her as a wrestler who was superior in every way imaginable). Despite the fact that the former was way more over than the latter and had wrestled much better matches, they fundamentally replaced her role with someone who was a good 6 inches taller, white instead of mestizo/indian, privileged instead of working class, and was promoted as being much, much prettier. Sorry, but I don't think there's anything coincidental about the replacement and the attributes they each had.
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Post by worldsstrongestman on Oct 21, 2012 20:05:22 GMT -5
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Post by stevieboy on Oct 22, 2012 5:02:05 GMT -5
Anyone got pics of AJ's outfit from last week's Raw? The missus wants a pic.
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