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Post by WarChief on Oct 4, 2012 10:29:09 GMT -5
Why do they split the guys from the valets when they seem to be working for them? It makes me think that there are always backstage politics interfering, and someone doesn't want Aksana or this person etc to work with a star for a petty political reason. Welp, that's what you get if you don't sleep with me.
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Post by Jimmy on Oct 4, 2012 10:29:29 GMT -5
I recall very similar things being said about McIntyre in 09-10. Now he is one of the FAN's favorites. I think people are quick to try and 'call' the latest bust like Tensai, much like they like to be the one to pinpoint the moment when a TV show jumps the shark.
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Post by Legion on Oct 4, 2012 10:34:59 GMT -5
Certainly his run so far is a bust as far as getting over with a crowd.
Guy might be a top tier talent, but at the moment, the crowds couldnt care less, and that is what is important.
He needs a proper story and a proper feud, with promo time, to get himself over. At the moment he is just a generic foreigner heel who happens to have the US title.
Have him rename the US title the European title and cut a few promos about that and boom, instant mega heel heat.
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Post by JCBaggee on Oct 4, 2012 11:29:50 GMT -5
Wish I had a link to one of those dozens of "Can we admit Daniel Bryan has failed in the WWE" threads that cropped up a year or two ago, so I could highlight why threads like this are terrible ideas.
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Post by Hurbster on Oct 4, 2012 11:31:23 GMT -5
I like his gimmick - even has the lifting tape on his thighs for help in the line-out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2012 11:33:00 GMT -5
The 5 languages thing is ass and needs to go.
The rest is alright.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 4, 2012 11:33:47 GMT -5
Disagree. Cesaro doesn't suck. He's actually good at the "evil foreigner gimmick". Plus he's a seasoned indy star who actually has "the WWE look". Cesaro has the potential to be a top star. Pretty much this. Don't confuse "bad booking" for "bad talent". Cesaro's awesome, his lack of promo time or a story other than "I dislike you, FIGHT!" is what sucks.
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Post by Some Guy on Oct 4, 2012 11:34:26 GMT -5
A 2-3 month feud for the US title with Christian would be huge for him, as the matches would be pretty damn great if given time (their short match on Smackdown was good stuff), and Christian excels at helping guys get over (see his ECW title reign).
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Post by joebob27 on Oct 4, 2012 11:38:44 GMT -5
Well, if they pipe in some boos, or put them in his theme music, he might get some heat. It's working for Ryback. Now some people think he should be the WWE Champion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2012 11:50:25 GMT -5
The performer seems to have a lot of potential. Everything I've seen from Claudio has been good.
But yes, absolutely, so far it is safe to say that "Antonio Cesaro" is as boring as dirt, but that's most certainly all on creative.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 4, 2012 12:14:43 GMT -5
Boring persona and a gimmick that cannot possibly get over with an American audience.
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Post by B.D. Neon on Oct 4, 2012 12:14:44 GMT -5
nope.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Oct 4, 2012 12:18:56 GMT -5
Not a huge fan of his gimmick, but he's a great wrestler. Needs more promo time/a feud, but then the same could be said for so many guys.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 4, 2012 12:26:31 GMT -5
Damn, people today have no patience. If you're not a main eventer in 3 months, you're a bust. There's a number of people who were declared citizens of Future Endeavorsville who wind up becoming success stories. He may become a superstar, he may not. But people want to be the first one to brag they knew that person was a dud.
And for those saying he's boring, how would you jazz him up?
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Post by WarChief on Oct 4, 2012 12:30:23 GMT -5
Still a bit annoyed I'm being told we "all agree" that he sucks, when as it appears in the course of this thread that an awful lot of us disagree.
I think the OP should change the thread title.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2012 12:48:35 GMT -5
The guy is awesome, and those who don't realize yet will. Just like with Bryan, and Punk.
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Post by Arrow on Oct 4, 2012 13:00:09 GMT -5
Damn, people today have no patience. If you're not a main eventer in 3 months, you're a bust. There's a number of people who were declared citizens of Future Endeavorsville who wind up becoming success stories. He may become a superstar, he may not. But people want to be the first one to brag they knew that person was a dud. I don’t recall anyone ever saying that Cesaro couldn’t be anything in the future. But since we can’t tell the future, the present is all anyone can go on, and in the present Cesaro just hasn’t brought much to the table. That could always change, obviously, but since there's no indication that it will or it won't, why should I even consider it right now?
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Post by Knailsic From Now On on Oct 4, 2012 13:03:34 GMT -5
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Post by alliedbiscuit on Oct 4, 2012 13:05:18 GMT -5
I've been loving it, just for the track jackets alone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2012 13:20:01 GMT -5
I don't get why people are annoyed by the gimmick, all they've mentioned is 'he was thrown out of the Rugby League for being far too violent', he's not going around with a rugby ball, going on about how important cardio in relation to weight is, or trying to integrate tackles into his matches.
If you mean 'annoyed by the leg tape!' then fair enough, but 'ex-rugby player' isn't his gimmick, it's that he's Very European and snooty.
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