Maven was GM of Raw...

[543Y2J]

for a week. As well as Orton, Benoit and Jericho for the other weeks after the Traditional Raw Survivor Series Match in 2004. I really liked the stipulation of the winning teams members get to be gm's of Raw for a week. The teams were actually fighting for something that could have benefited them in the long run, other than getting the victory.

Mavens week: Maven chose a title match against HHH. Good match but in a losing effort, with a lot of false finishers.

Benoit's week: Benoit had a cage match with HHH for the title. Another good match.

Orton's week: Originally the world title was going to be defended in a battle royal. This was changed to the winner gets to challenge HHH later in the night.
Benoit and Edge both won after eliminating each other at the same time. Leading to Benoit vs HHH vs Edge. In the match Edge tapped to the crossface at the same time Benoit was getting pinned.

Jericho: Just to be different Jericho couldn't get a title match nor could there be a defense due to Mr Mcmahon vacating the title until New Years Revolution (only for HHH to win it back anyway)

Just a few questions then based around this time. Shouldn't these 4 weeks be count in the GM history of Raw? Should extra stipulations be added to Traditional Survivor Series Matches to give them more meaning? What did you think about this month long storyline, and the vacation of the

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I remember Orton making La Resistance vs Regal & Eugene for the World Heavyweight Championship. His words, not mine.

[Allie Kitsune]

I remember another "Wrestler GM" show where the wrestler announced a battle royale for the #1 Contendership, and Vince responded to them "You can't do that! Steven Richards might win! Does ANYBODY actually want to see that?"

And then Stevie nodded his head in the background enthusiastically.

Does anybody else remember that?

[Sparkybob]

Oct 17, 2012 12:20:08 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

I remember another "Wrestler GM" show where the wrestler announced a battle royale for the #1 Contendership, and Vince responded to them "You can't do that! Steven Richards might win! Does ANYBODY actually want to see that?"

And then Stevie nodded his head in the background enthusiastically.

Does anybody else remember that?

Yes i did, I think it was when they had Orton as Gm and made an over the top battle royal for HHH''s world title and vince complained about Stevie potentially winning.

[Hakumental]

Totally dug Triple H tempting Maven to forfeit his title shot in exchange for Orton's spot in Evolution, and Benoit toothlessly passionately urging him not to give up a chance at the gold. I realize the consensus on Maven seldom peaks above "average", but being in that stable might have been enough to pull the trigger on him, take him to the top of the midcard, and give guys like Orton and Benjamin a strong rival to work against.

Hell of a lot better than eating a Stone Cold Stunner with Simon Dean.

[pepsitwist]

How can Benoit be pinned if he's applying the crossface?

[Bobeddy]

Oct 17, 2012 12:37:40 GMT -5 pepsitwist said:

How can Benoit be pinned if he's applying the crossface?

At about 4:30

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz42M8tp1bU

I remember really loving that finish and thinking it would lead to Benoit/Edge for the title at the next PPV and seen as those two were my favourites at the time I got excited thinking one of them was guaranteed to be the new champion.

Man, was I disappointed with how things worked out.

[Sparkybob]

Oct 17, 2012 12:41:18 GMT -5 Bobeddy said:

Oct 17, 2012 12:37:40 GMT -5 pepsitwist said:

How can Benoit be pinned if he's applying the crossface?

At about 4:30

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz42M8tp1bU

I remember really loving that finish and thinking it would lead to Benoit/Edge for the title at the next PPV and seen as those two were my favourites at the time I got excited thinking one of them was guaranteed to be the new champion.

Man, was I disappointed with how things worked out.

Are you saying you didn't enjoy this

[acidgod]

Oct 17, 2012 11:26:47 GMT -5 67 more said:

I remember Orton making La Resistance vs Regal & Eugene for the World Heavyweight Championship. His words, not mine.

Nobody would have complained about the main event being the same old thing

[Moppy]

This was really fun. They could easily make traditional Survivor Series matches more appealing by giving their outcomes real consequences.

[Bobeddy]

Oct 17, 2012 12:50:01 GMT -5 Sparkybob said:

Oct 17, 2012 12:41:18 GMT -5 Bobeddy said:

At about 4:30

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz42M8tp1bU

I remember really loving that finish and thinking it would lead to Benoit/Edge for the title at the next PPV and seen as those two were my favourites at the time I got excited thinking one of them was guaranteed to be the new champion.

Man, was I disappointed with how things worked out.

Are you saying you didn't enjoy this

I'm not a big HHH basher but not even I can see how to justify the booking choices of those few weeks.

Double finish and the title is vacated, then the title ends up back with the guy who had it to begin with who wasn't even involved in the double finish that vacated the title.

But as annoying as it is, dammit I genuinely love that picture!

[chazraps]

I really liked Maven's delusion heel run that immeadiately followed this. Him hitting the entrance ramp as a face, and then looking bewildered that he was getting booed was great. Really a shame he never got a real shot outside being "the Tough Enough guy."

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Oct 17, 2012 13:46:04 GMT -5 chazraps said:

I really liked Maven's delusion heel run that immeadiately followed this. Him hitting the entrance ramp as a face, and then looking bewildered that he was getting booed was great. Really a shame he never got a real shot outside being "the Tough Enough guy."

I really like heels who don't realize they're heels. Like Big Johnny in the early days.

[unoriginalalex]

Oct 17, 2012 13:49:00 GMT -5 @mdoggdx316 said:

Oct 17, 2012 13:46:04 GMT -5 chazraps said:

I really liked Maven's delusion heel run that immeadiately followed this. Him hitting the entrance ramp as a face, and then looking bewildered that he was getting booed was great. Really a shame he never got a real shot outside being "the Tough Enough guy."

I really like heels who don't realize they're heels. Like Big Johnny in the early days.

Me too, when everyone in the crowd is booing but the wrestler is acting like their being cheered, I love it ;D

[DragonMasterP]

What I remember from that four week span was Coach being told he'd face JR twice, and ended up facing Orton and Rhyno instead.

[Razor Gives It A 4/10]

Oct 17, 2012 12:20:08 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

I remember another "Wrestler GM" show where the wrestler announced a battle royale for the #1 Contendership, and Vince responded to them "You can't do that! Steven Richards might win! Does ANYBODY actually want to see that?"

And then Stevie nodded his head in the background enthusiastically.

Does anybody else remember that?

I need to see this!

[fw91]

didn't benoit end up facing edge in the cage due to some shenannigans?

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Oct 17, 2012 19:43:33 GMT -5 fw91 said:

didn't benoit end up facing edge in the cage due to some shenannigans?

Yeah. They teased that Batista had attacked Triple H in the back, then Edge went after Benoit, so they fought in the cage instead.

I did like that four week run where the faces were running the show and a lot of heels were getting their comeuppance, namely Christian, Trish, La Resistance, and Triple H(sort of).

[Essential1]

Maven was never going to be a top star. Something really awkward about his ring work depsite the guy being in great shape and working with some of the best at times.

[-Lithium-]

I really liked this angle...