Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Nov 7, 2012 15:30:09 GMT -5
The NWO Blu-ray came today. I watched the documentary and some of the bonus material. Here's some thoughts so far.
This is not one of the stronger documentaries. It runs about an hour long and doesn't go into too much detail chronicling their run. Instead, they talk about the NWO run in generalities and sometimes they talk about events out of chronology.
They reuse old documentary footage of Hogan, Hall, and Bischoff, which is understandable.
Some of the people who appear in the new documentary footage are Syxx, Kevin Nash, Big Show, DDP, DiBiase, Luger, Vince Russo, Booker T, Dusty Rhodes, Kidman, Hugh Morrus, Joe Hennig (they even show his name as Joe Hennig at one point), Cody Rhodes, Matt Striker, and Arn Anderson.
I would have liked to have heard more from talents more directly involved with the NWO rather than hearing so much from guys like Striker and Cody Rhodes. Specifically I would have liked to have heard more from Syxx and Luger.
No mention of WWE's lawsuit over Hall and Nash's early booking.
No discussion of Waltman being fired and then jumping to WWE and joining DX and how this helped give WWE momentum.
No mention of how NWO expanded to Japan. There is no footage of Muta, Chono, or Tenzan in WCW as part of NWO Japan.
They don't explain how the NWO Wolfpac was formed and generally gloss over this period. Similarly, they don't really tell the story of the Fingerpoke of Doom and the reformation of the NWO (NWO Elite) and the NWO B-Team.
I guess my overall complaint is that the documentary is short and doesn't really chronicle the NWO very well, sticking with generalities which may be presented out of chronological order.
The extras I have seen are all pretty good so far.
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Post by WarChief on Nov 7, 2012 15:32:03 GMT -5
Shame, could've been something special.
I guess if it's not talking about how much better WWE is than WCW, they'll only give half a shit.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Nov 7, 2012 15:32:55 GMT -5
Shame, could've been something special. I guess if it's not talking about how much better WWE is than WCW, they'll only give half a s***. I'll give more details and opinion on the extras as I get to them, but they could help redeem the set. |
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Post by Chip on Nov 7, 2012 16:45:27 GMT -5
The documentary just feels kinda lazy in general, especially when it could have gone into so much detail about a lot of stuff, instead it decides to skim the surface and tell us what we already know. There's not a whole lot in it that we didn't hear about in the Monday Night Wars/WCW documentaries.
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Post by sagsag on Nov 7, 2012 17:25:07 GMT -5
Documentary was alright, not great but pretty good way to kill an hour. It was a lot better than the first DVD from 04 or whatever, when they practically didn't even mention the Wolfpac or anything like that. On the first DVD, they just played full segments that lasted for like 8 minutes at a time, so this documentary was at least a little less lazy.
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Post by Dean-o on Nov 7, 2012 19:23:08 GMT -5
I can't believe they botched this again. The nWo deserves a nice meaty documentary. There is no way you can cover everything in an hour. At least the blu-ray special features are promising.
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Post by The Tee Why on Nov 7, 2012 19:33:02 GMT -5
I was gonna get this but if its this skimpy, screw it.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 7, 2012 20:01:02 GMT -5
I thought Cody was awesome as a talking head.
They really need to reach a deal with Sting. If Vince and Sting had came to a deal, this documentary would have been around 2 hours. They would have picked apart the Starrcade fiasco, and the following Nitro's mess.
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Nov 7, 2012 20:11:52 GMT -5
The roundtable discussion makes the bluray worth it.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Nov 7, 2012 20:14:25 GMT -5
The roundtable discussion makes the bluray worth it. Glad to hear it. I haven't watched it yet, but I am happy to hear that it goes 90 minutes. |
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Nov 7, 2012 20:56:03 GMT -5
Wait wait wait
There's new Vince Russo footage filmed for the dvd?
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Post by Bishblast on Nov 7, 2012 20:59:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I had no idea Russo was on it when I watched... so when he showed up I was terrified: WWE and Russo have been mingling...
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Nov 7, 2012 21:00:55 GMT -5
i have a feeling they interviewed Russo for the attitude era DVD that comes out in 2 weeks and they just had some footage of him talking about the nWo so they added that in.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Nov 7, 2012 21:52:06 GMT -5
i have a feeling they interviewed Russo for the attitude era DVD that comes out in 2 weeks and they just had some footage of him talking about the nWo so they added that in. I think they show Russo twice. In his first interview clip, it does seem like the topic of the interview fits in with a discussion of the Attitude Era. I don't want to spoil it, but Russo talks about WCW's luck with the NWO. This comment could have been something he said in relation to discussing the Monday Night War and the Attitude Era, but the actual quote could be incorporated into the NWO DVD. Who knows? They other interview clip is more specifically focused on the NWO when he was working in WCW (NWO 2000). Russo probably had a long interview where they covered topics for both DVD projects. I have heard other people like Waltman and Colt Cabana talk about how they went to WWE HQ and sat down for about three hours. Russo probably did the same thing and the topics covered his time in the Attitude Era and in WCW. |
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Post by Renslayer on Nov 7, 2012 22:04:23 GMT -5
An hour for perhaps the most influential stable in wrestling history? That's some bullshit WWE. You can do much better
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Post by Caglar13 on Nov 7, 2012 22:31:47 GMT -5
The roundtable discussion makes the bluray worth it. Main reason I bought it. Despite the documentaries shortcomings I think this is a solid release. Can't wait for the Attitude disc. |
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Post by Some Guy on Nov 8, 2012 1:06:23 GMT -5
If there's no extensive documentary, I don't understand the appeal of the DVD set. It's not like the nWo ever pulled off incredible matches. Interviews were good sure, but you can't base an entire set on interviews.
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 8, 2012 1:12:40 GMT -5
If there's no extensive documentary, I don't understand the appeal of the DVD set. It's not like the nWo ever pulled off incredible matches. Interviews were good sure, but you can't base an entire set on interviews. I agree. I was going to buy this set this weekend, but now I'll wait until it drops to below $10. |
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Post by J.O.B. Squad on Nov 8, 2012 3:53:28 GMT -5
Did this just come out,Out of nowhere? Cause the WWE hasn't even advertised it being out yet.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Nov 8, 2012 10:37:53 GMT -5
Did this just come out,Out of nowhere? Cause the WWE hasn't even advertised it being out yet. I have only seen it mentioned on the crawl at the bottom of the screen on either Main Event or SmackDown. I don't remember any ads or mentions on Raw. Usually they show ads on Raw the week before and day before. Sometimes they even plug it during the show (for other sets). It's like WWE is purposely not promoting it. Weird. |
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