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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 21:52:01 GMT -5
Okay, so I wasn't following much of the product of the time, but I do remember the basis of the storyline with Kurt stealing a kiss on Steph backstage when she got knocked out. And we all know the end result with Steph aligning with Triple H. But in between, I have quite a few questions here.
1. Was there a "face" in this storyline? Triple H was hated, as was Kurt, but did the fans align with either guy in this story?
2. What was the original plan for the storyline? Was Steph going to align with Kurt in the end?
3. What's the deal with Triple H and Trish backstage? How did they randomly get aligned?
4. What was the deal with the Raw where Foley called out Eddie, Chyna, and so on with H and Steph in the ring. Then Test comes out for some revenge, about one year too late. Talking up that was his spot and so on. Was this a one night feud? Or did H and Test pick it up again? Why were Eddie and Chyna even involved?
5. Was there really a blow off? I mean, so Steph aligns with Triple H and H and that's it? The storyline is done? From what I can remember, then H immediately gets put in the Austin/Kishi storyline.
Did this storyline end the way you wanted it to? I remember it was a hot program and I only remembered hearing about it afterwards.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 3, 2012 21:57:42 GMT -5
1. Trips was definitely a face at that time. His beat down on Team ECK the night Steph got sick got an enormous pop. Plus, he was friendly with Commissioner Foley. He turned heel on Austin a short time later.
2. No real storyline outside of Steph managing Kurt and Kurt being a douchey goofball. Who knows if the angle was going to go anywhere else, but it doesn't matter since Kurt was made champ at the time.
3. They just wanted it to look like he was doing stuff with Trish, which lead to a lot of unintentional stuff where he kept getting caught.
4. I don't remember that. Was that the same Raw where D-X reunited vs. the Radicalz?
5. The blow off was the beat down. There was no follow up because Trips got involved with Austin. If anyone got screwed it was Trips since I don't remember him even getting a shot at Angle's title. At least not until the Rumble...far after this feud had ended.
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Post by Lila on Jan 3, 2012 22:20:49 GMT -5
4 started with HHH backstage and Chyna walking in, giving him some advice on his problems with Steph. They hug and Eddie walks in seeing this and gets mad. He ends up pushing HHH down. A week later, HHH vs Eddie. Towards the end, Chyna comes down while both are laid out on the mat and she sits between them. She's thinking about who to help first. I don't think she chooses. This adds more to the storyline as Steph gets angry about Chyna talking to HHH.
EDIT: Some time later on, Chyna DDTs Steph.
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Post by thegame415 on Jan 4, 2012 6:18:24 GMT -5
If this angle played out the way it did today, the IWC would explode.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2012 14:12:50 GMT -5
If this angle played out the way it did today, the IWC would explode. I don't know about that. You replace Angle with Punk and you basically have the exact same storyline with Steph and Hunter. And we all know, Hunter goes over anyways. |
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Post by kayfabulous on Jan 4, 2012 14:14:04 GMT -5
I think I heard (on this board) that the original plan was that Stephanie was supposed to take Angle's side at the end of the angle but that Triple H was insecure about that and had it changed that he and Stephanie remain together.
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Post by Lila on Jan 4, 2012 14:20:33 GMT -5
I think I heard (on this board) that the original plan was that Stephanie was supposed to take Angle's side at the end of the angle but that Triple H was insecure about that and had it changed that he and Stephanie remain together. You're thinking about the Steph/Jericho vs HHH in early 2002. |
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Post by Mac on Jan 4, 2012 15:12:42 GMT -5
I heard Stephanie was supposed to side with Kurt at the end but Triple H wanted them to change it to Stephanie being so sexually gratified by Triple H that she was injured and in a wheel chair. Kurt was supposed to then ambush Triple H with the rest of the roster holding him down for effect and beat him with a cinderblock on a lead pipe thus injuring him and putting him a wheel chair. Then Triple H wanted to face Kurt Angle while in a wheelchair and go over him clean for the title. They just scraped the idea because HHH wanted to save it for later.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 4, 2012 16:04:29 GMT -5
If this angle played out the way it did today, the IWC would explode. Me to, I think WWE started to decline after that storyline didn't follow through to it's natural conclusion. It was also a storyline that a lot of casual fans were invested in. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2012 16:19:20 GMT -5
I heard Stephanie was supposed to side with Kurt at the end but Triple H wanted them to change it to Stephanie being so sexually gratified by Triple H that she was injured and in a wheel chair. Kurt was supposed to then ambush Triple H with the rest of the roster holding him down for effect and beat him with a cinderblock on a lead pipe thus injuring him and putting him a wheel chair. Then Triple H wanted to face Kurt Angle while in a wheelchair and go over him clean for the title. They just scraped the idea because HHH wanted to save it for later. I heard the reason was that HHH felt it was beneath his character and that he should be booked more strongly. |
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Post by Stu on Jan 4, 2012 16:32:48 GMT -5
As for Test, there was an episode Hunter and Steph got into an argument. They don't show it; just Just Joe listening from the hallway with lots of screaming in the background. Later that episode, Hunter is arrested on spousal abuse charges, which leads to the mystery of who called the police.
A week later, all the suspects are rounded up on Raw, including Angle, Chyna and Eddie. Foley is playing the goofball detective and is about to turn in Angle, just when Test and Trish come out. Test then reveals he was the one who called the cops.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2012 23:58:28 GMT -5
As for Test, there was an episode Hunter and Steph got into an argument. They don't show it; just Just Joe listening from the hallway with lots of screaming in the background. Later that episode, Hunter is arrested on spousal abuse charges, which leads to the mystery of who called the police. A week later, all the suspects are rounded up on Raw, including Angle, Chyna and Eddie. Foley is playing the goofball detective and is about to turn in Angle, just when Test and Trish come out. Test then reveals he was the one who called the cops. Anyone ever come out of the Test/Triple H mini-feud, or am I guessing that he ate a pedigree later that night and it was over? Also, between Test and Triple H, was there a face there? There was a lot of blurring the lines, with Eddie being a tweener, Angle and Triple H as who knows what, and then you add Test. Was this basically an all heel feud? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 1:24:33 GMT -5
I heard Stephanie was supposed to side with Kurt at the end but Triple H wanted them to change it to Stephanie being so sexually gratified by Triple H that she was injured and in a wheel chair. Kurt was supposed to then ambush Triple H with the rest of the roster holding him down for effect and beat him with a cinderblock on a lead pipe thus injuring him and putting him a wheel chair. Then Triple H wanted to face Kurt Angle while in a wheelchair and go over him clean for the title. They just scraped the idea because HHH wanted to save it for later. This made me laugh so hard. |
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jan 5, 2012 2:31:38 GMT -5
3. What's the deal with Triple H and Trish backstage? How did they randomly get aligned? Mick Foley booked them in a mixed tag against I think The Rock and Lita. Trish was nowhere near the wrestler she'd become later, both in kayfabe and reality, so Triple H was showing her a couple of holds. Steph then walked in and got the wrong idea. |
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Post by flatsdomino on Jan 5, 2012 3:18:48 GMT -5
I always remember hearing that it was supposed to end with Steph siding with Angle and Trips going full-on face (as he was pretty much there already) but he didn't want to become a face so they sort of just dropped it, hence the lack of resolution. That was why he was pretty much lost in the shuffle until after 'Mania with the two-man power trip. Even there, the fans were begging to turn him face, and they teased it at the start of the show, but once again they quickly turned him fully heel by the end of the night.
He was really tacked onto the Rikishi-Austin feud, mainly because a) Kishi wasn't getting over as a monster heel and it had pretty much killed what was the WWF's hottest angle at the time, and b) because Trips had nothing to do since they were planning to turn him face.
Word is that Angle's spot in the summer of 2001 would've been Triple H's though, as Austin turning on the WWF would've ended the two man power trip and led to a Triple H-led WWF v. an Austin-led WCW. But then the quad injury happened. But at that time, people had been wanting to cheer Triple H for a good while, so when he came back at MSG in 2002 riding a wave of momentum with the "Beautiful Day" video and everything, it was inevitable that he was going to get that pop. Everything was just perfectly aligned in his favor. Unfortunately, it was all downhill from there, basically.
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Post by bestthateverdidit on Jan 5, 2012 9:06:31 GMT -5
I always remember hearing that it was supposed to end with Steph siding with Angle and Trips going full-on face (as he was pretty much there already) but he didn't want to become a face so they sort of just dropped it, hence the lack of resolution. That was why he was pretty much lost in the shuffle until after 'Mania with the two-man power trip. Even there, the fans were begging to turn him face, and they teased it at the start of the show, but once again they quickly turned him fully heel by the end of the night. He was really tacked onto the Rikishi-Austin feud, mainly because a) Kishi wasn't getting over as a monster heel and it had pretty much killed what was the WWF's hottest angle at the time, and b) because Trips had nothing to do since they were planning to turn him face. Word is that Angle's spot in the summer of 2001 would've been Triple H's though, as Austin turning on the WWF would've ended the two man power trip and led to a Triple H-led WWF v. an Austin-led WCW. But then the quad injury happened. But at that time, people had been wanting to cheer Triple H for a good while, so when he came back at MSG in 2002 riding a wave of momentum with the "Beautiful Day" video and everything, it was inevitable that he was going to get that pop. Everything was just perfectly aligned in his favor. Unfortunately, it was all downhill from there, basically. I can't believe how they went from him getting the biggest pop in the history of wrestling, to beating Jericho in a feud with his wife in a match that was basically a heat vacuum at Mania, to then losing the title to a very old Hogan at Backlash a month later. |
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Post by thegame415 on Jan 5, 2012 15:45:46 GMT -5
I always remember hearing that it was supposed to end with Steph siding with Angle and Trips going full-on face (as he was pretty much there already) but he didn't want to become a face so they sort of just dropped it, hence the lack of resolution. That was why he was pretty much lost in the shuffle until after 'Mania with the two-man power trip. Even there, the fans were begging to turn him face, and they teased it at the start of the show, but once again they quickly turned him fully heel by the end of the night. He was really tacked onto the Rikishi-Austin feud, mainly because a) Kishi wasn't getting over as a monster heel and it had pretty much killed what was the WWF's hottest angle at the time, and b) because Trips had nothing to do since they were planning to turn him face. Word is that Angle's spot in the summer of 2001 would've been Triple H's though, as Austin turning on the WWF would've ended the two man power trip and led to a Triple H-led WWF v. an Austin-led WCW. But then the quad injury happened. But at that time, people had been wanting to cheer Triple H for a good while, so when he came back at MSG in 2002 riding a wave of momentum with the "Beautiful Day" video and everything, it was inevitable that he was going to get that pop. Everything was just perfectly aligned in his favor. Unfortunately, it was all downhill from there, basically. I can't believe how they went from him getting the biggest pop in the history of wrestling, to beating Jericho in a feud with his wife in a match that was basically a heat vacuum at Mania, to then losing the title to a very old Hogan at Backlash a month later. Welcome to 2002. |
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Jan 5, 2012 19:34:22 GMT -5
It should have ended with an Eiffel Tower.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 5, 2012 21:28:43 GMT -5
It should have ended with an Eiffel Tower. Would've been better with a David Copperfield. |
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Post by flatsdomino on Jan 6, 2012 1:09:15 GMT -5
It should have ended with an Eiffel Tower. Would've been better with a David Copperfield. If it ended with a David Blaine, the boom period never would have ended. |
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