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Post by CM Parish on Jan 1, 2012 14:24:09 GMT -5
It's Maven, he's coming back to reclaim his #1 contenders match for the WWE Title as he was never eliminated from the Royal Rumble. Taker tossed him over the top rope. Whether that was a legal elimination is another debate though. It was the middle rope wasn't it?
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Post by mrjl on Jan 1, 2012 14:25:48 GMT -5
Just a repost since I got cut off by the lock: I don't think Chris is crossed out to tell us it's not Jericho. I think it's apart of the whole "boy = Jericho, girl = Punk" thing. I think the girl in the video (representing Punk) is taking credit for the boy's work (representing Jericho) and presenting it as something she created. The book she knocks off the desk represents the Best in the World moniker. Punk has taken that moniker away from Jericho and made it out to be his own. At least that is the way I view it. I'm shocked everyone isn't viewing it that way at this point. Watching all of the videos again now that they're done, that's so obvious it slaps you in the face. People keep taking all of this so literally. Like, it's a girl so it must be a female returning. This is all symbolism. Punk is the girl trying to copy and steal the boy's work, and the boy is Jericho, growing increasingly more and more frustrated and insane that his work is being stolen. By the last video you saw the boy freaking out over his notebook as the girl continued to read it over his shoulder. I even got confused mid way through this series of videos when the boy said the girl would announce his arrival, but watching them all again that became a lot more clear when you listen to everything that's said. A girl literally won't be announcing his arrival. Punk will draw him out on Monday after he defeats Ziggler. Which points back to Punk being represented in the videos as the thieving little girl. Then you just throw all of the other little hints in there: -The globe being the only other thing in the class room, clearly another hint about the "Best In The World" monicker being a catalyst for this issue. You've also had these lines said - "it will be the end of the world as you know it" and "powers that be, will be shaken". Along those same lines, verbiage like "the deceptions the weak have perpetrated will be castigated". Chris being angry that Punk has deceived us all in to believing he is the best in the world. And you know, Chris being the only guy on the roster who ever talks like that in promos at all. -The maple leaf in the later videos. -The fact that one of Jericho's main phrases from his last run has been used repeatedly in the later videos. -"I can not help you anymore" meaning he can't save us from the WWE or ourselves anymore as he'd done so many times before in his mind. -Never mind the fact that on both Raw and Smackdown the final videos interrupted the man himself holding up the WWE Championship, or a video package where it comes right back in to Punk holding up his Championship. Then like some people have posted here before: {Spoiler}One of the two reputable news sites reporting as far back as late summer that Jericho was in talks to return now, and not coincidentally his bitter veteran agenda picked up steam on twitter right around that time. And they've been reporting him since the second the first video aired six weeks ago. If it isn't him then they've fooled me good. Everything in the videos says it is though. Go back and watch all six in sequence again if you haven't, and look at it through the eyes of the scenario Cam and I laid out. It makes more sense than anyone else mentioned. a girl symbolizing a guy is fine visually I suppose. But actually using the word she changes it to much for me. It's probably Jericho, but I think when you have to read that much symbolism into it doesn't work for me. And honesly, if a blonde guy is going to show up and do something amazing in a World Title angle I'd rather it be Ziggler.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Jan 1, 2012 14:26:26 GMT -5
If it's Jericho: Why wouldn't he be coming back to kick Randy Orton's ass? Because wrestling.
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Post by percymania on Jan 1, 2012 14:28:58 GMT -5
If it's Jericho: Why wouldn't he be coming back to kick Randy Orton's ass? Why didn't Kane come back to attack Mark Henry? Why didn't Undertaker come back to attack the Nexus?
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Post by Gopher Mod on Jan 1, 2012 14:30:21 GMT -5
I meant to say.. where are we at? Top four...? No partic order... a) Taker b) Lesnar c) Jericho d) Edge Edge shouldn't even be in this conversation. He was forced to retire, and one wrong move would put him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. Also, it's much too quick for Lesnar. That will come in due time, but I don't think that the medical boards of anywhere would even let Brock get physical until sometime in late February, early March at the earliest. As for Taker, it's a slight possibility, but what Cam and MGH have put forth (along with other things that have been seen on other boards) pretty much state that Chris is coming back to take what is rightfully his: the Best in the World moniker and the WWE Title to boot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 14:31:13 GMT -5
Taker tossed him over the top rope. Whether that was a legal elimination is another debate though. It was the middle rope wasn't it? After kicking his ass for a while he throws him back in the ring and over the top rope after whipping on Scotty 2 Hotty for a spell.
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Post by CM Parish on Jan 1, 2012 14:34:28 GMT -5
It was the middle rope wasn't it? After kicking his ass for a while he throws him back in the ring and over the top rope after whipping on Scotty 2 Hotty for a spell. Maybe it's Scotty to reclaim HIS title shot then.
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Post by CM Parish on Jan 1, 2012 14:35:35 GMT -5
If it's Jericho: Why wouldn't he be coming back to kick Randy Orton's ass? Why didn't Kane come back to attack Mark Henry? Why didn't Undertaker come back to attack the Nexus? They kind of teased the Mark Henry thing. Nexus didn't exist in the same form when 'Taker returned.
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Post by Fundertaker on Jan 1, 2012 14:37:41 GMT -5
it will be a returning John Hugger playing GnitƧ Is it wrong that I would mark like there were no tomorrow?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 14:42:34 GMT -5
it will be a returning John Hugger playing GnitƧ Cole: Look out it's GnitS! Lawler: That's gimmick infringement spelled backwards!
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Post by zeez on Jan 1, 2012 14:46:29 GMT -5
If it's Jericho: Why wouldn't he be coming back to kick Randy Orton's ass? "What are you talking about?" -The majority of wrestling fans
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 1, 2012 15:05:57 GMT -5
It's Maven, he's coming back to reclaim his #1 contenders match for the WWE Title as he was never eliminated from the Royal Rumble. Taker tossed him over the top rope. Whether that was a legal elimination is another debate though. Whats legal in the Rumble seems to change every year....in 1992, Randy Savage jumped over the top rope to the floor to go after Jake Roberts, but he was allowed to come back in....in 1997, Mil Mascaras jumped over, and he was eliminated.
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Post by David Otunga: Eternian at Law on Jan 1, 2012 15:21:39 GMT -5
Its Kennedy....Kennedy.
Or Doink.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 15:52:10 GMT -5
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Jan 1, 2012 16:06:32 GMT -5
The only problem I could see with this theory is that... well... whiny Jericho already annoys me to no end on twitter, it won't get better on tv. His jealous, bitter veteran promos will probably make me wanna change the channel two or three weeks into the angle... There is also the thing of if Jericho was to return and feud with Punk (like so many keep saying will happen) then why wouldn't they have a match at the Royal Rumble? It wouldn't make sense for Jericho to return in early January, feud with Punk, but then Punk faces someone else at the Royal Rumble while Jericho is lost in the shuffle. In order to get to Punk, he has to win the Royal Rumble.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 1, 2012 16:11:24 GMT -5
If it's Jericho: Why wouldn't he be coming back to kick Randy Orton's ass? Well, other than the injury... I think all the stuff about Jericho coming after Punk for stealing his spotlight will work amazingly well going into WM. I personally can't wait, if it comes to light that it's him, as both me are two of my favorite wrestlers in the business today, and will represent the first time in a long time that I will have my two favorites in the ME of Wrestlemania.
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Post by Killah Ray on Jan 1, 2012 18:00:13 GMT -5
If it is Jericho, I just hope that he doesn't do the long drawn out promos anymore....those things were almost a challenge to sit through...
And don't be surprised if a lot of the things go untalked about...just because
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Post by gnr123 on Jan 1, 2012 18:01:07 GMT -5
There is also the thing of if Jericho was to return and feud with Punk (like so many keep saying will happen) then why wouldn't they have a match at the Royal Rumble? It wouldn't make sense for Jericho to return in early January, feud with Punk, but then Punk faces someone else at the Royal Rumble while Jericho is lost in the shuffle. In order to get to Punk, he has to win the Royal Rumble. So, if Jericho returns to have a feud with Punk, he's going to be in the Royal Rumble while Punk is defending the WWE Championship against someone else?
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Post by saintpat on Jan 1, 2012 18:22:21 GMT -5
Just a repost since I got cut off by the lock: I don't think Chris is crossed out to tell us it's not Jericho. I think it's apart of the whole "boy = Jericho, girl = Punk" thing. I think the girl in the video (representing Punk) is taking credit for the boy's work (representing Jericho) and presenting it as something she created. The book she knocks off the desk represents the Best in the World moniker. Punk has taken that moniker away from Jericho and made it out to be his own. At least that is the way I view it. People keep taking all of this so literally. Like, it's a girl so it must be a female returning. This is all symbolism. Punk is the girl ... -The fact that one of Jericho's main phrases from his last run has been used repeatedly in the later videos. -"I can not help you anymore" meaning he can't save us from the WWE or ourselves anymore as he'd done so many times before in his mind. Then explain why it's the GIRL saying "I cannot help you anymore." That mean's Punk is saying he can't help Jericho save us? WTFBBQ? !!! ?
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 1, 2012 19:54:56 GMT -5
I think I've seen something like that on the "Weird Wrestling Art" thread. ;D
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