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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Feb 10, 2013 20:15:49 GMT -5
Oh, I planned to hold that at the next supercard. You could use this time to feud. Between Moo Moo and the Man in Black, Mulligan is entrenched though, eh? If you insist though, I can schedule a rematch for a future Niteraw. Actually....I can live with it being the next Supercard...... If We go with the "Genre Film" idea...... I Even have the Genre {Spoiler}Either Troma or Saw Style Torture Porn I know that it's not any of my business, really, and if Mulligan's okay with waiting a month for another shot then fine, but...can't it be sooner? I can't resist pointing out the elephant in the room here: we had one guy who bothered to work, bothered to promo. And we had another person who did not write a single word in the lead-up to LOTR. And nevertheless, they tied. And if I had rated Mulligan a single point lower, he actually would have lost. Mulligan should have won. I don't know who voted for Moo Moo over him, but I have no idea what you were thinking. And it's not because I have anything against Bull Ant or his characters, it's because people ought to be rewarded for putting effort in instead of being passed over. It's like nobody voted for Ryan Blood before GookerMania because at that time I hadn't been promoing here as Blood, and I am fine with that, because nobody should have voted for Blood. That would have been unfair to Jono and unfair to Hayden if they had, and since I hadn't been able to pull my weight as world champion the only sensible thing was to let somebody else be world champion. I just feel like...for god's sake, please make another match so that this guy can get the championship he should have won last week. Don't make him wait another month, unless he really prefers to. (Yeah, I know, with these rants I'm turning into Viva. )
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 10, 2013 20:21:10 GMT -5
Actually....I can live with it being the next Supercard...... If We go with the "Genre Film" idea...... I Even have the Genre {Spoiler}Either Troma or Saw Style Torture Porn I know that it's not any of my business, really, and if Mulligan's okay with waiting a month for another shot then fine, but...can't it be sooner? I can't resist pointing out the elephant in the room here: we had one guy who bothered to work, bothered to promo. And we had another person who did not write a single word in the lead-up to LOTR. And nevertheless, they tied. And if I had rated Mulligan a single point lower, he actually would have lost. Mulligan should have won. I don't know who voted for Moo Moo over him, but I have no idea what you were thinking. And it's not because I have anything against Bull Ant or his characters, it's because people ought to be rewarded for putting effort in instead of being passed over. It's like nobody voted for Ryan Blood before GookerMania because at that time I hadn't been promoing here as Blood, and I am fine with that, because nobody should have voted for Blood. That would have been unfair to Jono and unfair to Hayden if they had, and since I hadn't been able to pull my weight as world champion the only sensible thing was to let somebody else be world champion. I just feel like...for god's sake, please make another match so that this guy can get the championship he should have won last week. Don't make him wait another month, unless he really prefers to. (Yeah, I know, with these rants I'm turning into Viva. ) Honestly, when I came back, I accepted that it wasn't just promoing..........it was about timing. I originally quit because I at the time wasn't able to accept that I could bother to promo my rear end off that week and yet I had this losing streak. But now, I have been able to accept what happened. Im just gonna say it happens.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 10, 2013 22:37:49 GMT -5
I'm now reminded of the Triple Threat between Colt, DR Jackson, and Whitey Fats...
I agree with Seth that it's more about timing here than anything else. Take a look at me: I haven't won anything noteworthy since at least Gookermania IV. I can actually count the times I won a vote since then: 3 - versus Bergman in some exhibition match, tied for the Beat the Clock Challenge, and versus Bull Ant (though I altered it into a DQ loss). This includes all non-squash matches with El Hijo de Boiler Room Brawler when he was BRB's in-ring representative.
I'm not complaining, I'm just stating facts. If we want to talk "work input" I put all kinds of effort into the build towards Thunderdome, rivaled only by Aaron's work, and I came in dead last. I don't complain, but I also don't congratulate people on their victories if you've never noticed. I think sending results and posting matches is all I have to say on these matters, win or lose. For another example, I've been in 4 Gookermanias and never won - I'm the Tito Santana of Gookermania. Admittedly, I actually take a little ironic pride in that to be honest, but also, every opponent I've faced at GM went on to become World Champ the next year. I don't feel like I should share my opinions as booker, but I'll tell you all what: I do have them but I swallow them to make this e-fed survive week to week.
In conclusion, timing and perhaps some perseverance are the keys to success here. Putting in promo work doesn't necessarily ensure any success - though it earns you points now, so there is that. In the end, it's best to do your best just to be entertaining, make it fun for everyone, and enjoy yourself. Sometimes, you'll get to do it while being a champion.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 10, 2013 23:24:32 GMT -5
Card has been sent. Who wants to write what?
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Feb 10, 2013 23:25:45 GMT -5
I'll handle Viva vs Jason Flynn if there aren't any objections.
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Post by Head Detective Aaron Enigma on Feb 11, 2013 0:15:58 GMT -5
I will write Enigma v. Antihero.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Feb 11, 2013 0:18:39 GMT -5
Here's the funny thing though BRB, Seth, Socko, I'm...I'm actually not to fussed about losing.
I mean yes, it does sting a bit...but had I voted (and sadly I didn't) I would have won that one. If nothing else this loss has lit a fire under my barnacle-encrusted arse to put more effort in, it's fueled what I HOPE is a well-received Heel turn and reminded me that yes I've returned...but I can't get complacent and expect to ride a Nostalgia Wave like SOME superstars and get a championship
(*Cough* The Dwayne *Cough*)
Huh...didn't know Bronchitis would affect my posting.......
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 11, 2013 0:40:35 GMT -5
Here's the funny thing though BRB, Seth, Socko, I'm...I'm actually not to fussed about losing. I mean yes, it does sting a bit...but had I voted (and sadly I didn't) I would have won that one. If nothing else this loss has lit a fire under my barnacle-encrusted arse to put more effort in, it's fueled what I HOPE is a well-received Heel turn and reminded me that yes I've returned...but I can't get complacent and expect to ride a Nostalgia Wave like SOME superstars and get a championship (*Cough* The Dwayne *Cough*) Huh...didn't know Bronchitis would affect my posting....... If that's what lights your fire, then burn away. A fed full of participation is a happy fed.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Feb 11, 2013 6:07:45 GMT -5
I'll take the TV title match if nobody else wants that one. I'm now reminded of the Triple Threat between Colt, DR Jackson, and Whitey Fats... I agree with Seth that it's more about timing here than anything else. Take a look at me: I haven't won anything noteworthy since at least Gookermania IV. I can actually count the times I won a vote since then: 3 - versus Bergman in some exhibition match, tied for the Beat the Clock Challenge, and versus Bull Ant (though I altered it into a DQ loss). This includes all non-squash matches with El Hijo de Boiler Room Brawler when he was BRB's in-ring representative. I'm not complaining, I'm just stating facts. If we want to talk "work input" I put all kinds of effort into the build towards Thunderdome, rivaled only by Aaron's work, and I came in dead last. I don't complain, but I also don't congratulate people on their victories if you've never noticed. I think sending results and posting matches is all I have to say on these matters, win or lose. For another example, I've been in 4 Gookermanias and never won - I'm the Tito Santana of Gookermania. Admittedly, I actually take a little ironic pride in that to be honest, but also, every opponent I've faced at GM went on to become World Champ the next year. I don't feel like I should share my opinions as booker, but I'll tell you all what: I do have them but I swallow them to make this e-fed survive week to week. In conclusion, timing and perhaps some perseverance are the keys to success here. Putting in promo work doesn't necessarily ensure any success - though it earns you points now, so there is that. In the end, it's best to do your best just to be entertaining, make it fun for everyone, and enjoy yourself. Sometimes, you'll get to do it while being a champion. I do actually think that sucks that you've had trouble winning, which I don't mean as sucking up, just stating facts. Because as somebody who is pretty consistent in posting promos, you should have more to show for it than that. I might be able to shed some light on part of the problem, depending on who else voted the way I did for the same reason I did. Back when you were using El Hijo de Boiler Room Brawler as your in-ring representative, I wasn't sure whether we were supposed to vote for or against him based on stuff BRB said, or whether we were supposed to wait until he actually cut a promo himself before voting for him. I know that either way it'd be you writing it, but when I would read a promo by BRB I would automatically think "Well, if BRB had a match I'd vote him higher than the other guy, but since it's EHdBRB it's different." Perseverance is admirable, but after a certain point you feel like the guys who are persevering ought to have something to show for it. In addition to MPM and yourself, the General of the Monkey Army never really cracked the glass ceiling in spite of how creative and funny he could be, and since he's not here I'm guessing that he finally got discouraged about it? Maybe there's another reason, but I wouldn't blame him for getting discouraged. And there's Seth, who has finally won the IF title after a long championship drought. I'm also hoping that, if he's able to follow up on his promo from a recent NiteRaw, that Viva can win something else. And in Jason Flynn's case, I haven't really seen a lot of him so far but he seems like a good character with good promos, and I'd like to see him do well in the future. I know that I don't have anything to complain about as far as Blood's accomplishments, but I've become a fan of certain characters in this fed. Between wanting to see them win due to feeling that they deserved it, and knowing how it feels to lose due to having lost my share of times (although admittedly, some people take it better than others and I'm glad to see that MPM is able to stay positive), it just kind of gets to me sometimes when things like this happen.
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Feb 11, 2013 7:48:41 GMT -5
I have to concur with a lot of what Socko says here, especially when it comes to MPM and The General. Both of them I've felt for a while have had really creative and funny promo's and I've often felt a bit disappointed to not see them go as far as they have. I'm really hoping for MPM that turns around and I'm glad to hear that he's got a fire lit under him now.
As for others mentioned I'll sort of do a bullet point on it so as to avoid me rambling incessantly which as some PM'ers with attest to, I can.
-Viva: Glad to see him back, because like him or hate him he is one of those galvanizing people who tells it like it is and I can respect a lot for it.
-Jason Flynn: Really like his promos and I think he and Connor can strike up some alliance in the future and I like that even early on he's taken into writing matches which is of course a big help.
-Seth: I agree as well that it's nice to see him with the Interforums title as I thought it really enhances the stance he has with The Fallen and when he came back what he was looking to do. Looking forward to seeing what he comes up with. And I will say this, and I mean absolutely no disrespect what so ever, but holy crap was I happy to see Connor finally win against him lol. He was one of those guys that I wondered if he would ever beat but I looked at it from the perspective that each time we've had matches where they've faced off against each other I've upped my game in the promo department and there are a few folks I can say that about here.
I tend to be the type that really thrives when I can have a back and forth with someone. Hayden is another good example of that right now which reminds me that I need to do up some promo work for the thread, especially given the card.
-BRB: Dude...if there is one person that I have scratched my head about when it has come to their win/loss record. You have some of the most creative promo's I've read and with the CEO/Owner role I've seen him really, really shine. And like Socko has said, not trying to ass kiss, just saying like it is. Like MPM and The General I have read some really entertaining promo's from all three of you and all three of you have some of the most memorable promo's in my mind.
So, finally to address something as far as voting since it was alluded to earlier. For me personally, I consider a couple of things with relation to it. I don't know if it's how everyone factors things but it's what I do. I take into consideration activity (promo's, match writing, just general activity in thread) and also who I'd like to see win or what seems logical from a story telling perspective. Sometimes things seem to go the way I expect them to and sometimes they don't but I always try and vote for what I think is most deserving and entertaining.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Feb 11, 2013 11:36:38 GMT -5
OK, WHY are we having this tournament when I've already announced I'm using my rematch points?
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 11, 2013 12:51:47 GMT -5
1. I don't recall you officially announcing such here in this thread (feel free to correct me with posts I missed).
2. In story it hasn't happened yet.
3. Either way, it occupies the card and gives us an Interforums #1 Contender. If it becomes a Triple Threat due to turnover, it occupies that one more member of the roster.
4. (in response to MSB) What's done is done, but "in-ring representative" wasn't a joke except that it was a 400 lber representing a 300+lber. Otherwise EHdBRB was meant to be a legitimate wrestler. Luckily I managed to book and write every loss in a plausible manner.
5. (in response to Connor) Again, what's done is done. While it's fun to have a belt, it should not be the end goal of being a part of an e-fed. I like to think that regardless of losing, that most of my feuds make my opponents look good in the end, if not better so they move up the ladder. It's the least anyone can do around here. The more members that aim to make their feud opponents look good, the better chance it will come back around. Everyone just needs to play ball.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 11, 2013 12:57:43 GMT -5
Oh, also, writers - expect entrances and (hopefully) finishes tonight. How liberating it is to no longer be cryptic...
In the meantime, everyone else - write your promos, skits, squashes, vignettes, packages, etc if you have any in mind.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Feb 11, 2013 12:58:08 GMT -5
1. I don't recall you officially announcing such here in this thread (feel free to correct me with posts I missed). 2. In story it hasn't happened yet. 3. Either way, it occupies the card and gives us an Interforums #1 Contender. If it becomes a Triple Threat due to turnover, it occupies that one more member of the roster. 4. (in response to MSB) What's done is done, but "in-ring representative" wasn't a joke except that it was a 400 lber representing a 300+lber. Otherwise EHdBRB was meant to be a legitimate wrestler. Luckily I managed to book and write every loss in a plausible manner. 5. (in response to Connor) Again, what's done is done. While it's fun to have a belt, it should not be the end goal of being a part of an e-fed. I like to think that regardless of losing, that most of my feuds make my opponents look good in the end, if not better so they move up the ladder. It's the least anyone can do around here. The more members that aim to make their feud opponents look good, the better chance it will come back around. Everyone just needs to play ball. 1, 2, and 3. Except this has reached ridiculous levels (very much my fault, but still) in the Promo Thread. Seriously, I know my phone is having issues connecting online and will for at least a day or two, but that promo I need to do with the rematch clause and the upcoming PPV and everything needs to happen. I can start it, but I need to know that those I need involved (Drakin, Hayden, and possibly Enigma) can be onboard for it.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 11, 2013 13:32:51 GMT -5
And hopefully it will. If all goes well, I plan to post the show on Thursday to give people time.
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Feb 11, 2013 13:40:07 GMT -5
I've got a new tagline for us since Thursday's seem to be the thing now. FAWA Niteraw: It beats watching TNA Impact.
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Post by Head Detective Aaron Enigma on Feb 11, 2013 18:05:06 GMT -5
1. I don't recall you officially announcing such here in this thread (feel free to correct me with posts I missed). 2. In story it hasn't happened yet. 3. Either way, it occupies the card and gives us an Interforums #1 Contender. If it becomes a Triple Threat due to turnover, it occupies that one more member of the roster. 4. (in response to MSB) What's done is done, but "in-ring representative" wasn't a joke except that it was a 400 lber representing a 300+lber. Otherwise EHdBRB was meant to be a legitimate wrestler. Luckily I managed to book and write every loss in a plausible manner. 5. (in response to Connor) Again, what's done is done. While it's fun to have a belt, it should not be the end goal of being a part of an e-fed. I like to think that regardless of losing, that most of my feuds make my opponents look good in the end, if not better so they move up the ladder. It's the least anyone can do around here. The more members that aim to make their feud opponents look good, the better chance it will come back around. Everyone just needs to play ball. 1, 2, and 3. Except this has reached ridiculous levels (very much my fault, but still) in the Promo Thread. Seriously, I know my phone is having issues connecting online and will for at least a day or two, but that promo I need to do with the rematch clause and the upcoming PPV and everything needs to happen. I can start it, but I need to know that those I need involved (Drakin, Hayden, and possibly Enigma) can be onboard for it. I can be in if you want, Gus. Just let me know.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 11, 2013 18:14:09 GMT -5
Gus, I know about the promo thread getting ridiculous. With what I was doing, I was trying to seperate some time between the next encounter between Gus and Seth and using an out by the heelish Seth Drakin. Also, I am personally not one of those people who is a fan of a face Heavyweight Champion going after the lower belt without the other belt being on the line as well.
Connor, I always try to up my promo game and I always find it best that my opponent's game is upped to so that is always my mission.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Feb 11, 2013 19:38:15 GMT -5
The whole idea behind me using my points was to give one of my other characters (preferably Shaelin) something to do while I focus on trying to retain the World Championship. At the rate this is going I don't know what to do other than either cancel the usage and hoard up for a World title rematch when i do lose or use the points for Shaelin or Nurse Harper to go after Moo Moo.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 11, 2013 20:39:33 GMT -5
The whole idea behind me using my points was to give one of my other characters (preferably Shaelin) something to do while I focus on trying to retain the World Championship. At the rate this is going I don't know what to do other than either cancel the usage and hoard up for a World title rematch when i do lose or use the points for Shaelin or Nurse Harper to go after Moo Moo. You could use them for Marshall. Use a loophole in saying that while you can't use a rematch clause for myself, you can use it for a person of my choice.
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