Arrow
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Post by Arrow on Dec 20, 2012 12:00:22 GMT -5
I still think they should consider doing Brock/Punk vs. HHH/'Taker in some sort of 'No Holds Barred Tornado Tag' match with Michaels in "End of an Era's" corner. It'd be awesome, chaotic, it'd give Undertaker a huge match for the Streak, give Punk a big match, and would allow HHH to get his win back over Brock while giving fans a fresh match in the process. I'd certainly buy it.
Either that or Rock/Cena/Punk for the title. Still haven't given up on that yet.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Dec 20, 2012 12:01:39 GMT -5
Dear God, the idea of Sheamus winning the Rumble AGAIN and headlining Mania against Orton has brought me out in cold sweats. That sounds f***ing HORRIBLE. It wouldn't even be headlining. It would be the opener or about the 4th or 5th most interesting match on the card. That's the part that kills me in that it makes the Rumble match seem worthless. I would change that to Ryback vs The Undertaker. I'd change it to Ryback vs. Big Show. Imagine the pop if Ryback could get Big Show up for the Shell Shock. It would be kind of a sad pop as it would only happen because we've seen him struggle with a couple of lifts on television. Whether it be from the way he lifts people or his lack of strength.
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Cronant
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Post by Cronant on Dec 20, 2012 12:01:42 GMT -5
Brock/HHH had little heat. The match was mediocre. And no one's been talking about it since it happened. Plus, it makes no sense in kayfabe for HHH to want another match. Yet it's the only match that seems to not have changed during the planning for Wrestlemania. It all just feels like this is more about HHH's ego, rather than putting on a great match, and boosting buyrates. They haven't really talked about Brock at all since he 'quit'. The ego point is stupid, if it were anybody other than HHH, the face AND his best friend getting their arms broken would be seen as legit cause for a revenge. Brock isn't getting away with that, especially with the "I quit" right after.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 20, 2012 12:03:48 GMT -5
Brock/HHH had little heat. The match was mediocre. And no one's been talking about it since it happened. Plus, it makes no sense in kayfabe for HHH to want another match. Yet it's the only match that seems to not have changed during the planning for Wrestlemania. It all just feels like this is more about HHH's ego, rather than putting on a great match, and boosting buyrates. They haven't really talked about Brock at all since he 'quit'. The ego point is stupid, if it were anybody other than HHH, the face AND his best friend getting their arms broken would be seen as legit cause for a revenge. HHH got his chance for revenge. He failed.
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Cronant
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Post by Cronant on Dec 20, 2012 12:05:34 GMT -5
They haven't really talked about Brock at all since he 'quit'. The ego point is stupid, if it were anybody other than HHH, the face AND his best friend getting their arms broken would be seen as legit cause for a revenge. HHH got his chance for revenge. He failed. ...and? Since when does it ever end in one match? Who's to say Brock doesn't show up in January and do it again if one of them shows up? Maybe Trips is fine leaving it as it is until Brock does something else. It just sounds like such a reach. "There's no reason for a rematch". Really?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 12:05:56 GMT -5
Triple H is good, but he's like Chris Jericho-good, not all-time great incredible badass good.
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Dec 20, 2012 12:08:57 GMT -5
HHH got his chance for revenge. He failed. ...and? Since when does it ever end in one match? Who's to say Brock doesn't show up in January and do it again if one of them shows up? Then that would make more sense. But it does nothing to make the feud interesting. You're taking a feud that wasn't even that good the first time, and doing the exact same thing again, just with a more predictable ending.
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Cronant
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Post by Cronant on Dec 20, 2012 12:10:21 GMT -5
...and? Since when does it ever end in one match? Who's to say Brock doesn't show up in January and do it again if one of them shows up? Then that would make more sense. But it does nothing to make the feud interesting. You're taking a feud that wasn't even that good the first time, and doing the exact same thing again, just with a more predictable ending. Again, its just me, but I'm not with the "The feud and match sucked last time" mentality. I liked it.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 20, 2012 12:14:14 GMT -5
Then that would make more sense. But it does nothing to make the feud interesting. You're taking a feud that wasn't even that good the first time, and doing the exact same thing again, just with a more predictable ending. Again, its just me, but I'm not with the "The feud and match sucked last time" mentality. I liked it. I wouldn't say that it completely sucked. But it wasn't that great. Especially not good enough for a rematch. And even if it was a great feud, Lesnar has only wrestled twice since returning. There's no reason to do any of his feuds twice, when there are so many other possible matches that haven't been done.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Dec 20, 2012 12:14:38 GMT -5
Triple H is good, but he's like Chris Jericho-good
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Post by Arrow on Dec 20, 2012 12:15:42 GMT -5
Then that would make more sense. But it does nothing to make the feud interesting. You're taking a feud that wasn't even that good the first time, and doing the exact same thing again, just with a more predictable ending. Again, its just me, but I'm not with the "The feud and match sucked last time" mentality. I liked it. Speaking as someone who barely noticed the feud when it was happening, looking back I think it only really suffered from the fact that they had to draw it out for months. Come WrestleMania season, that won't be a problem. Given the fact that the motives and backgrounds are already set, and I find it hard to believe that the feud won't be better this time around. Haven't seen the match, so I don't know if it was any good or not, but there's no reason a feud shouldn't be interesting. My issue is... I don't want Brock/HHH II and Rock/Cena II on the same card. I can deal with one, but then you really have to change the other. Either that, or you have to properly raise the stakes in both so that they're worth investing in a second time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 12:17:30 GMT -5
My problem with that match (other than the oh look Triple H won again factor) is why would Brock fight Hunter again?
there's nothing to gain, beat him last time left him laying
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 12:21:13 GMT -5
Triple H is good, but he's like Chris Jericho-goodI was trying to be nice... What I mean is he should have a career on par with Jericho's, nothing to sneeze at, but instead he's treated like 'Stone Hulk" Rocky Flair.
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Post by jackswagz on Dec 20, 2012 12:28:21 GMT -5
I like HHH but I just really don''t care about HHH v Brock. Brock would be better against someone else.
Just do Triple H vs Jericho or something if HHH really wants to be on the card in a relatively 'big' match.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 20, 2012 12:32:42 GMT -5
All that just sounds horrible. I'd prefer Taker vs Brock, Orton vs Sheamus doesn't need the World Title, Sheamus does not need to win a second Rumble in a row and all World Title matches don't need former champions in them. Whatever happened to a new guy getting the rub in a Mania World Title match?
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Post by The Heenan Family on Dec 20, 2012 12:34:40 GMT -5
Just how is Brock Lesnar going to be reintroduced on television anyways? Paul Heyman is so tied up in Punk's storyline that it makes me wonder what will happen to Heyman to make him seek out Lesnar again. Will it involve Punk? I can't believe it would be as simple as HHH suddenly appearing and challenging Lesnar to a rematch. Is HHH about to insert himself into the Punk/Rock stuff to get Heymans attention?
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Post by highfivessteve on Dec 20, 2012 12:35:59 GMT -5
As someone who is going to Mania, I am staying optimistic about the card, haha!
Brock/HHH was great at SS, and while I know the rematch will be great, I just don't think it's Mania-levels.
I'd much rather see Brock/Rock or Brock/Taker ("I'm leaving the night after Mania and taking Taker's streak with me, etc etc")
Still dying to see Punk as champ challenge the streak though!
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 20, 2012 12:37:03 GMT -5
So are they basically gonna ignore that Ryback is the most over guy on the roster and have him do nothing important at Wrestlemania and instead do Rematchamania? We have literally seen every single major match they are teasing. Ugh this company acts like it doesn't even want to be around in ten years.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 12:47:56 GMT -5
Who wants to bet that Lesnar returns at the Rumble setting up something for Wrestlemania with either Undertaker or Rock or someone who isn't HHH, Orton doesn't win the World title and Sheamus doesn't win the Rumble match? Then we get "exclusive reports" telling us that plans changed and the guys feuding with each other coming out of the Rumble just might now be facing each other at Wrestlemania rather than the matches we reported a month ago?
I'll give you odds of 1:25.
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Post by msc on Dec 20, 2012 12:56:50 GMT -5
I'm pretty confident the WWE are happily "leaking" news of HHH/Brock so as to shock the internet when Taker shows up in January to challenge Brock. (Or Brock costs Rock the title)
Its the kind of thing they'd do.
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