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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 11:27:11 GMT -5
Say Angle didn't get fired and well, Benoit didn't, you know....
Add that to CM Punk, Cor Von, Sabu, RVD, Sandman, and so on and I would say this roster would've been real good.
Would ECW have turned out different if Angle and Benoit stayed around and carried the roster in 2007?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 23, 2012 11:30:10 GMT -5
Absolutely. One change that immediately comes to mind is that it would taken a lot longer for John Morrison to win the ECW Championship (hell, he may have never won it) and get his feet wet as a serious upper-midcarder/main eventer.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 23, 2012 11:49:28 GMT -5
I don't think Benoit would have been on ECW if Angle didn't OD his way out of WWE, or at least not on the roster together. They moved Benoit over in 07 because they didn't have Angle there and needed a teacher on the roster.
Sad thing is that whole brand has a huge case of the what ifs for its short existence.
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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Dec 23, 2012 13:01:52 GMT -5
I don't think Benoit would have been on ECW if Angle didn't OD his way out of WWE, or at least not on the roster together. They moved Benoit over in 07 because they didn't have Angle there and needed a teacher on the roster. Sad thing is that whole brand has a huge case of the what ifs for its short existence. The extra sucky thing is that if even ONE of those guys stuck around the show would've been awesome. I remember one of Benoit's few matches was a tag with Lashley, and I had such a good feeling watching these guys together. Benoit with his technical-but-clearly-pro-wrestling style, Lashley with his amateur-wrestling-with-power style. ECW was gonna be dirty as hell. Big Show as the heel champ (I still like to call him the only guy to win the WWE, WCW, and ECW championship), Matt Hardy before he sucked out loud, young CM Punk, THE ALPHA MALE, Elijah Burke before he got weird, Sheton Benjamin... man. So good. |
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Post by celticjobber on Dec 23, 2012 19:10:55 GMT -5
I think the name "ECW" doomed it from the beginning. It should've been called something else. Hell, even a re-launched WCW could've worked better.
I think fans of the original ECW wanted more shows like One Night Stand '05, and anything less was a disappointment. So by the time of the re-launched ECW with lame things like the Zombie and WWE's decision not to run TV in "indy" arenas like the ECW arena or the Manhattan Center, most old ECW fans knew that ship had sailed.
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Post by The Tee Why on Dec 23, 2012 19:46:04 GMT -5
I think the name "ECW" doomed it from the beginning. It should've been called something else. Hell, even a re-launched WCW could've worked better. I think fans of the original ECW wanted more shows like One Night Stand '05, and anything less was a disappointment. So by the time of the re-launched ECW with lame things like the Zombie and WWE's decision not to run TV in "indy" arenas like the ECW arena or the Manhattan Center, most old ECW fans knew that ship had sailed. Yeah I think even the arena thing would have made a big difference. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 19:49:47 GMT -5
They did run the Manhattan Center for TV once, they diddnt try it again after the fans shit on Batista V Big Show, Cm Punk debuted to a great response that night.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 23, 2012 21:50:14 GMT -5
They did run the Manhattan Center for TV once, they diddnt try it again after the fans s*** on Batista V Big Show, Cm Punk debuted to a great response that night. Yeah, it really would not have mattered if WWE had run ECW tapings in small arenas, as Big Show vs. Batista made it crystal clear that WWE never understood why ECW was popular. Eventually, they would have pissed off the loyal contingent. |
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Post by The Portable Stove on Dec 23, 2012 22:12:42 GMT -5
I've always wanted to ask/state: I don't think Punk vs. Benoit that early on in Punk's WWE Tenure would have been as good as many think it would have been. Maybe Punk of a year and a half ago vs. Benoit of 2007 would've been fantastic, though.
That said, I think ECW would've been a different beast, but the issue still remained that it wasn't ECW, and it still carried the stigma of being named that.
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Post by Danimal on Dec 23, 2012 23:07:57 GMT -5
As was said earlier they should've done a revamped WCW. Calling it ECW while continually becoming less ECW and more Tuesday Night Heat is a great way to alienate fans. Maybe if they called it WCW they'd be less-inclined to marginalize it as the "C" show.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 23:41:41 GMT -5
You could go one step further and leave ECW, make Smackdown WCW and Raw as WWE.
That's your 3 brands, with a clear hierarchy of what's what.
WWE Raw
WCW Smackdown
ECW
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2012 0:14:02 GMT -5
Probably wouldn't have mattered all that much.
Particularly Benoit. Assuming Benoit simply went to ECW and went on as normal, I don't think much would have really come of that for long. Not that he wasn't over, but he was running pretty stale at the time and his match quality really had declined quite a bit.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 24, 2012 2:21:02 GMT -5
As was said earlier they should've done a revamped WCW. Calling it ECW while continually becoming less ECW and more Tuesday Night Heat is a great way to alienate fans. Maybe if they called it WCW they'd be less-inclined to marginalize it as the "C" show. T I didn't mind the ECW name, but they should've moved all their talent that had ever been associated with the original ECW over to the brand. Benoit was a good start, but they should've moved Mysterio over as well, along with Chris Jericho once he made his return. And taking ECW Originals like Sandman and Super Crazy away from ECW and putting them on RAW was another blow to the brand as well. |
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