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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 25, 2012 2:19:05 GMT -5
Talking in a purely kayfabe sense here.
He's a very credible competitor, with an impressive background in judo and MMA, but it seems like opponents manage to gain an advantage on him simply because he's compelled to display his forced comedy "mannerisms".
Like on this Christmas RAW, he tagged in, and then did his power walk directly into an uppercut from Tensai.
Or his multiple losses to Antonio Cesaro. He loses the United States Title because "The Cobra" was distracted by Aksana. Or because he spends an entire match trying to reach for the Cobra Sock even though he can still jab a guy in the throat with his bare hands and again has the legit pedigree to pull off such a feat.
Get your head in the game.
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Post by Unaffiliated on Dec 25, 2012 2:33:18 GMT -5
In kayfabe, is he really a credible competitor with the background in judo and MMA? I don't think it's ever been emphasized if even brought up at all. I thought he was just supposed to be the random guy in the crowd who took on the challenge to face Umaga.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 25, 2012 2:37:00 GMT -5
I remember JBL mentioning his judo background on commentary.
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 25, 2012 5:32:58 GMT -5
In kayfabe, he learned a lot from his tag team with Kozlov. And it was once they started teaming up that Santino no longer won most of his matches in flukey fashions.
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Post by YiHammer on Dec 25, 2012 13:07:49 GMT -5
In kayfabe he's a fan that became a wrestler accidentally
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 25, 2012 13:14:23 GMT -5
In kayfabe, he learned a lot from his tag team with Kozlov. And it was once they started teaming up that Santino no longer won most of his matches in flukey fashions. Not to mention he's been around now 5, 6 years? They let him show flashes of being able to hold his own if he'd cut down even a little of some of the goofball stuff in-ring. Not that he has to drop it completely, and not that he has to suddenly become a super-SRS character outside the ring, but I think it'd help him to be able to NOT have to do the worst possible thing at the worst possible time, EVERY time.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 25, 2012 13:18:29 GMT -5
Using the fact that he was once a fan that got into the WWE on a fluke win, as an excuse to why he isn't a credible wrestler, doesn't really work anymore. Santino's been in the WWE for almost 6 years. That should be more than enough time to learn how to actually be a serious competitor.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Dec 25, 2012 13:39:26 GMT -5
Santino is boring as all hell right now... he adds literally nothing of note to anything he does. His schtick was tired 3 years ago, he was pretty funny as a heel, but he's cut from the 3 Stooges cloth as a wrestler, which doesn't work in 2012/2013.
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Post by Digital Witness on Dec 25, 2012 13:51:37 GMT -5
I think Santino needs an angle similar to the Colt Cabana/Homicide angle in ROH from years ago where Colt was forced into showing that he could be serious in order to battle Homicide in a bitter, bloody feud , and come out on top.
I think maybe someone like Dean Ambrose gets pissed off at Santino, makes it personal, and Santino has to set the comedy aside to deal with the serious threat at hand.
Santino in the end doesn't have to stay completely serious, but at least give him an edge with some credibility. Show the people that Santino has the tools to be successful.
I think my biggest problem with Santino's comedy getting in the way is that he could have been a Royal Rumble winner and could have gone to Wrestlemania to challenge for a world championship. But no, he had to entertain and then get thrown out by Del Rio like a jabroni.
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