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Post by Talent Name on Feb 17, 2013 9:58:24 GMT -5
If the rumor is true they could do it one of two ways the Ultimates way or the way he killed Saber Tooth
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 10:23:27 GMT -5
I hope the individual at the Marvel summit who brought up bringing Daken back was summarily executed by guillotine.
Ugh.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 17, 2013 10:59:27 GMT -5
/\ I take it you never read his solo series? Daken turned into an AMAZING character during Dark Reign. him coming back was always matter of "When" not "if".
as for killing off Wolverine, well it's just par for the course with Marvel because it seems to be the only way they think they can keep their major properties interesting. it's a load of crap, but at least they're killing off someone I could go without new stories from for a while. and it's an Avengers story written by Bendis who who gives a shit?
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Post by Legion on Feb 17, 2013 11:29:58 GMT -5
The one good thing about the revolving door of death at Marvel is that when they do it and stick with it for a bit, it does at least give the character a little rest. A year off from Wolverine being everywhere would be nice I don't understand this sentiment. If you don't want to read about a character, don't buy their books. You could easily avoid Wolverine, Savage Wolverine, and Wolverine and the X-Men if you want. And he hasn't even been a major part of Hickman's Avengers so far. Does it just annoy you to see the books on the shelf? I don't get it. Over exposure. He's character you simply cannot ignore. If you enjoy other X characters, but are bored of him, tough, cos he's pretty much all of them. He's in Avengers titles, he's in titles he shouldn't be in, he's a focal point in cross overs, he's just everywhere. I get why, I get that he makes money and sure, if you're a fan of the character, it's great for you, but as someone whose seen enough of him, resting him for a bit is only going to be a plus in my book
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Post by hotshotalex on Feb 17, 2013 11:48:07 GMT -5
Speaking of Daken and Dark Reign is any of the Franken Castle Punisher stuff worth checking out?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 17, 2013 12:32:07 GMT -5
Speaking of Daken and Dark Reign is any of the Franken Castle Punisher stuff worth checking out? it actually was pretty good. I think what happened was a few people thought it was supposed to be a "permanent change" as opposed to just a fun story idea so it just got written off as being stupid without people actually reading it.
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Post by hotshotalex on Feb 17, 2013 12:53:16 GMT -5
Cool I'll check it out. Punisher is one of my favorite characters and think it's such an interesting take on the character.
I'm not up to date on anything Marvel i'm one of those fans that never stays up to date and just reads trades after the fact.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 18, 2013 13:25:51 GMT -5
in that case you'll probably enjoy it more. there were a lot of whiny "stop having fun" guys when it came out.
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Post by hotshotalex on Feb 18, 2013 17:04:01 GMT -5
in that case you'll probably enjoy it more. there were a lot of whiny "stop having fun" guys when it came out. When it comes to Punisher fans I think it came from a lot of fan's wanting The Punisher to be portrayed in a super serious way the way he was portrayed in Punisher Max. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the hell out of Garth Ennis' Punisher Max run it was violent and and tackled a lot of serious and controversial issues. One of my favorite series ever. I just got all the trades of Jason Aaron's run on Punisher Max run and have started reading and have really enjoyed it so far. But that is not the way he has to be portrayed every time. Even if you look at Ennis' pre Max Punisher stories a lot of them are fun and have a lot of humor in them. He had the Punisher fighting a giant half cyborg Russian with giant breasts. And Punisher and Wolverine battling midget gangsters.
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Post by Legion on Feb 18, 2013 17:51:15 GMT -5
Frankencastle was fun less for the actual character and more for the support cast of the Legion of Monsters and Morbius
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 18, 2013 19:39:17 GMT -5
in that case you'll probably enjoy it more. there were a lot of whiny "stop having fun" guys when it came out. When it comes to Punisher fans I think it came from a lot of fan's wanting The Punisher to be portrayed in a super serious way the way he was portrayed in Punisher Max. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the hell out of Garth Ennis' Punisher Max run it was violent and and tackled a lot of serious and controversial issues. One of my favorite series ever. I just got all the trades of Jason Aaron's run on Punisher Max run and have started reading and have really enjoyed it so far. But that is not the way he has to be portrayed every time. Even if you look at Ennis' pre Max Punisher stories a lot of them are fun and have a lot of humor in them. He had the Punisher fighting a giant half cyborg Russian with giant breasts. And Punisher and Wolverine battling midget gangsters. as great as Ennis' Punisher Max stuff was, IMO his best Punisher work is still "Welcome Back, Frank". where else do you get to see Punisher take down a mob boss by punching a Polar bear in the face? the Tom Jane movie did a pretty good job of adapting it (though I would've preferred if they left his family's death as being caught in a random act of violence) but I wish they woulda left in the Polar Bear stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 13:39:00 GMT -5
/\ I take it you never read his solo series? Daken turned into an AMAZING character during Dark Reign. him coming back was always matter of "When" not "if". I can honestly say I did not, because I rather hated his character (and others) in DARK AVENGERS. My disdain in his return is due to the fact that, for a character only a couple years old, he's "died forever".....what, twice now? I can honestly say that, as one who used to be obsessed with comic book deaths, I'm so moved on from that now...
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 19, 2013 14:24:55 GMT -5
yeah but EVERYONE sucked in Dark Avengers (the Bendis one anyway). it was just a bad book all around. seems unfair to judge a character based entirely on one writer's lousy take on him.
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Post by Legion on Feb 19, 2013 14:47:09 GMT -5
yeah but EVERYONE sucked in Dark Avengers (the Bendis one anyway). it was just a bad book all around. seems unfair to judge a character based entirely on one writer's lousy take on him. Actually really like Bendis' Dark Avengers, aside from the Sentry stuff
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 19, 2013 14:53:00 GMT -5
I couldn't stand it. it just seemed like Bendis was poaching Thunderbolts' cast and artist with the line of thinking that "Warren Ellis used these guys and it was great so if I do it it'll automatically be great, too". and then he left all the actual character development and interesting stories to other writers while he meandered around doing a whole lot of nothing. plus I never really bought Norman in that role to begin with but we've argued that back and forth tonnes of times so let's not
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Post by Legion on Feb 19, 2013 14:59:27 GMT -5
Lol, I see your point with the theft of the characters and the way he ported them over from Ellis' amazing Thunderbolts but yeah, we disagree over the rest
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Feb 19, 2013 15:02:08 GMT -5
yeah but EVERYONE sucked in Dark Avengers (the Bendis one anyway). it was just a bad book all around. seems unfair to judge a character based entirely on one writer's lousy take on him. Actually really like Bendis' Dark Avengers, aside from the Sentry stuff I f***ing loved Dark Avengers. Even the Sentry stuff.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 19, 2013 15:06:15 GMT -5
I'm still convinced that Bendis oringially intended Sentry's entire character arc to be Scarlet Witch's, but after the (rightfully so) drubbing he got for Avengers Disassembled he decided to tell the story with a character he knew nobody would lynch him for.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 19, 2013 15:56:43 GMT -5
Actually really like Bendis' Dark Avengers, aside from the Sentry stuff I f***ing loved Dark Avengers. Even the Sentry stuff. Dark Avengers served its job well, to established these crazed supervillains posing as heroes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 16:11:34 GMT -5
I'm still convinced that Bendis oringially intended Sentry's entire character arc to be Scarlet Witch's, but after the (rightfully so) drubbing he got for Avengers Disassembled he decided to tell the story with a character he knew nobody would lynch him for. The Sentry was shoehorned into the origins of the Marvel Universe in a story that felt shoehorned into our collective consciousness by Quesada and Marvel Knights. And then Bendis found a way to cram an even larger shoehorn into our mouths and shove Sentry down our collective gullet. Thankfully, Marvel happily decided that the only out for him was death. Melodramatic death, apparently, but at least he's gone forever. .............for now.
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