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Post by wwefan71080 on Jan 7, 2013 20:08:34 GMT -5
The best stables or factions are the ones which have 5 or less members and have 1 main eventer, 1 legend and 1 tag team. The classic cases of this are DX, NWO, 4 horsemen, Evolution.
The reason Aces & 8s doesn't work is because it has too many members like Immortal had way too many members, Nexus too
The Shield may become one of the better stables with the top list if it doesn't get watered down with other people
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Jan 7, 2013 21:45:05 GMT -5
When playing EWR or TNM7, I would build stables thusly:
-Mouthpiece. Gotta have a talker.
-Monster/Powerhouse. Gotta have the big man, muscle guy.
-Workhorse. Gotta have the guy who can 'go'.
-Teamwork. Two guys that gel as a duo.
These guidelines are interchangeable, like you can have the powerful mouthpiece or workhorse team. But the bottom line is that this formula works. Ask The Four Horsemen...
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Post by TGM on Jan 7, 2013 21:45:32 GMT -5
I don't think it's quantity of members, it's making sure that all them members have a solid reason to be a part of the stable.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 7, 2013 22:36:47 GMT -5
No, the main problem with A&8 is that too many of the members are faceless bodies thus it's hard to care about them outside the stables gimmick which itself isn't anything to write home about.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 7, 2013 22:40:40 GMT -5
I don't think it's quantity of members, it's making sure that all them members have a solid reason to be a part of the stable. |
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Jan 8, 2013 1:59:02 GMT -5
I don't see how anyone of your examples fits that bill. The Four Horseman didn't have a legend and a main eventer unless you count Flair for both. DX never had a legend and a tag team at the same time. Unless HHH was the legend and main eventer, or are you counting the HBK era and letting HBK and Trips do double duty as tag team members and legend and main eventer respectively. The NWO was well over 5 members most of its existence and if you only count the original incarnation which would have Hogan double duty like Flair. Evolution would have Flair doing double duty again as the legend and Batista's partner. I am hard pressed to think of a stable that fits your criteria.
I don't think there are any set roles in a stable they just need to have clearly defined roles and mesh those together well.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Jan 8, 2013 2:16:56 GMT -5
I don't see how anyone of your examples fits that bill. The Four Horseman didn't have a legend and a main eventer unless you count Flair for both. DX never had a legend and a tag team at the same time. Unless HHH was the legend and main eventer, or are you counting the HBK era and letting HBK and Trips do double duty as tag team members and legend and main eventer respectively. The NWO was well over 5 members most of its existence and if you only count the original incarnation which would have Hogan double duty like Flair. Evolution would have Flair doing double duty again as the legend and Batista's partner. I am hard pressed to think of a stable that fits your criteria. I don't think there are any set roles in a stable they just need to have clearly defined roles and mesh those together well. When did I say legend? DX had the mouthpiece, they had the worker in both HHH and HBK(they also gelled as a team) and Chyna could be considered the monster. Evolution had all four as well. nWo also, before they expanded WAY beyond their means(should have stopped at Waltman). |
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Jan 8, 2013 3:39:36 GMT -5
Sorry was in reply to OP who stated great factions have one legend, one ME and one tag team. Your layout actually makes more sense to me.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Jan 8, 2013 10:31:23 GMT -5
Gotcha. No harm done.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jan 8, 2013 12:42:51 GMT -5
They need a purpose or a goal. The Horsemen were businessmen who loved money and being on top. That meant being the best in the ring + winning gold= more money. And they took out anyone who tried to take the gold from them.
nWo wanted to control the landscape of the company and show their dominance over WCW by taking all of their belts, which initially they did. Everyone who was wrestling for the nWo had someone to feud with over a title, and almost held them all at one time.
Nexus had some "bigger picture" that never materialized, which is why they weren't effective enough. Same with Legacy, Nation of Domination, Aces & 8's, etc.
Also, the successful groups weren't made up of a head guy and some lackeys. Groups like the Horsemen, initial group of the nWo, DX, Freebirds, etc. respected each other and were all on the same level. When groups start with the "top guy trying to intimidate teammates" route, it's over.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Jan 8, 2013 15:45:58 GMT -5
They need a purpose or a goal. The Horsemen were businessmen who loved money and being on top. That meant being the best in the ring + winning gold= more money. And they took out anyone who tried to take the gold from them. nWo wanted to control the landscape of the company and show their dominance over WCW by taking all of their belts, which initially they did. Everyone who was wrestling for the nWo had someone to feud with over a title, and almost held them all at one time. Nexus had some "bigger picture" that never materialized, which is why they weren't effective enough. Same with Legacy, Nation of Domination, Aces & 8's, etc. Also, the successful groups weren't made up of a head guy and some lackeys. Groups like the Horsemen, initial group of the nWo, DX, Freebirds, etc. respected each other and were all on the same level. When groups start with the "top guy trying to intimidate teammates" route, it's over. You're saying Ole Anderson and Paul Roma was on the same level as RIC FLAIR? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jan 8, 2013 16:02:02 GMT -5
They need a purpose or a goal. The Horsemen were businessmen who loved money and being on top. That meant being the best in the ring + winning gold= more money. And they took out anyone who tried to take the gold from them. nWo wanted to control the landscape of the company and show their dominance over WCW by taking all of their belts, which initially they did. Everyone who was wrestling for the nWo had someone to feud with over a title, and almost held them all at one time. Nexus had some "bigger picture" that never materialized, which is why they weren't effective enough. Same with Legacy, Nation of Domination, Aces & 8's, etc. Also, the successful groups weren't made up of a head guy and some lackeys. Groups like the Horsemen, initial group of the nWo, DX, Freebirds, etc. respected each other and were all on the same level. When groups start with the "top guy trying to intimidate teammates" route, it's over. You're saying Ole Anderson and Paul Roma was on the same level as RIC FLAIR? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA How many times did you see Ric Flair get in Ole's face? Never. Back then they were on the same level as top heels in the company. And no one is talking about Paul Roma, he wasn't in the group when they were on top. |
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Post by agent817 on Jan 8, 2013 17:59:16 GMT -5
I just want to know one thing. Would you consider The New Blood to be a stable? It was basically the majority of the roster siding with Russo and Bischoff.
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