Unocal 76
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Post by Unocal 76 on Jan 9, 2013 18:11:36 GMT -5
It's really changed in the last few years- a major influx.
Rosita and Sarita and Traci and Angie Love are gone, they've lost Del Rey and the cheerleader/Raisha/Kristen/whoever her real name is, and even the head honchos have changed- Karen's out, Brooke's in.
That said, it's not all bad- Tara's holding up well, getting Gail Kim back was a MAJOR upgrade, Tessmacher has come a long way, and ODB still has her fastball.
Do you think it's better or worse?
When I think about this situation, it tells me something about that signing with TNA is not what we thought it'd be cracked up to be- look at Maria Kanellis, she's better off in ROH
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comahan
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Post by comahan on Jan 9, 2013 18:16:06 GMT -5
Its certainly better than it was in 2010/2011. Madison was really the lone bright spot there for a while, as she was just awesome with her character. It's not even close to as good as it was in 08/09 though. Gail, Kong, TBP as heels, Hamada, Alissa, Sarita, etc. That group was fantastic.
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Dshuks
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Post by Dshuks on Jan 9, 2013 18:22:57 GMT -5
Slightly better than Mid to late 2011 , and spring/ summer of 2010.
Winter 2010 ( Jan, Feb, March) Had higher match quality ( Sarita/Taylor vs Hamada/Kong, The Tara vs Daffney series of matches, a nice Angelina vs Tara face vs face match, a couple nice tag team matches). 2010 also had a much better roster overall ( Tara, Daffney, Hamada, Sarita, Angelina, Taylor, Madison )
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BigAl
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Post by BigAl on Jan 9, 2013 18:43:18 GMT -5
Winter is gone too, but seems like no one misses her too much
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kidkamikaze10
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 9, 2013 18:48:32 GMT -5
It's not good, but it's better than two years ago.
But that's comparing bad to horrendous.
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Jan 9, 2013 20:42:47 GMT -5
Winter is gone too, but seems like no one misses her too much I do  |
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 9, 2013 23:26:24 GMT -5
Winter is gone too, but seems like no one misses her too much Everyone misses her. However, she's the only wrestler that possibly got used less than Rosita & Sarita. |
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Post by hughgrection on Jan 9, 2013 23:42:23 GMT -5
The TNA Knockouts are all circling a Black Hole. Velvet Sky has a big hyped return and is mysteriously off the next PPV and not on TV. Soon they will all be swallowed up and never seen again. I think it even got Eric Young.
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BigAl
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Post by BigAl on Jan 10, 2013 0:11:34 GMT -5
Winter is gone too, but seems like no one misses her too much Everyone misses her. However, she's the only wrestler that possibly got used less than Rosita & Sarita. And sadly, despite Velvet fans complaining her title run was short, Winters title run was actually ALOT worse, won it twice, then barely appeared after winning, then loses it on both first defence! |
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Post by jimmyjames on Jan 10, 2013 4:50:01 GMT -5
Best wrestler is gone, let go (Sarita). Hot up and coming talent, let go (Rosita). One of the tag team champs is a man who's never on the show, (Eric Young). Said tag tag-team championship is never defended. TNA Knockouts are in great shape, nothing to be worried about, especially with those two huge proponents of their division in Bruce Pritchard and Hulk Hogan running things.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 10, 2013 7:55:07 GMT -5
It's a true pity, really; TNA clearly shifted the focus of the division towards looks and away from ability and audience-pleasing gimmicks, and the end result is a watered down KO division.
That's not to say all is terrible: as said above, women like Tara, Mickie, Gail, etc. are talented AND good looking, so they get to remain in the spotlight while putting on at least decent matches. This is a clear upgrade from where the division has been the past two years or so.
However, there's no ignoring that TNA was rolling towards having something that no other major wrestling company in the US has ever had: a women's division based mostly around in-ring talent and treated on a level nearly equal with the men. They had people to build around including Kong, Cheerleader Melissa, Sarita, and Hamada; even if some of them didn't win the KO belt or anything, they would still be good hands who would put on strong matches.
They simply decided to dismantle it, and go towards more of a WWE direction with it. That's not to say TNA's women's division is currently in as sad a state as WWE's, as TNA at least gives the KO's more than two minutes for matches and has better talent, but it's so far from what it could have been, and what it already HAS been.
However, there is one, single thing I'll say in TNA's defense: given their two hour limit for weekly TV time, I feel the company made a conscious effort to shift most of its focus onto the World Title scene; the other stuff is great, but they felt that if they were going to really build stars, that'd be the way to do it. That meant de-emphasizing certain other aspects of the show. I get that. I've been making the argument forever that TNA needs a secondary TV show (Xplosion doesn't really count) that basically only highlights the X and KO divisions, because they're not going to get decent TV time, otherwise.
Still, it doesn't fully excuse how far the KO division has fallen from what were pretty ridiculous highs.
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Banecat
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Post by Banecat on Jan 10, 2013 8:41:58 GMT -5
What's the deal with this board's fascination with Rosita? Seriously you guys treat Rosita like she was the second coming. She wrestled only a handful of times and the few matches she was in were far from memorable.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 10, 2013 8:49:59 GMT -5
What's the deal with this board's fascination with Rosita? Seriously you guys treat Rosita like she was the second coming. She wrestled only a handful of times and the few matches she was in were far from memorable. She's young (so she could have been around for years), attractive, decent in the ring, and had the perfect face story. She is the perfect underdog face, but TNA used her as a heel. |
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Banecat
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Post by Banecat on Jan 10, 2013 9:11:06 GMT -5
What's the deal with this board's fascination with Rosita? Seriously you guys treat Rosita like she was the second coming. She wrestled only a handful of times and the few matches she was in were far from memorable. She's young (so she could have been around for years), attractive, decent in the ring, and had the perfect face story. She is the perfect underdog face, but TNA used her as a heel. I'm sorry but she would have never been more then lower card performer. She doesn't have the size to make it big. I doubt she could even take So Cal Val in a fight. What's the point of being an underdog face if you'll never get into the title scene? |
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Post by norsisclouds on Jan 12, 2013 12:26:20 GMT -5
She's young (so she could have been around for years), attractive, decent in the ring, and had the perfect face story. She is the perfect underdog face, but TNA used her as a heel. I'm sorry but she would have never been more then lower card performer. She doesn't have the size to make it big. I doubt she could even take So Cal Val in a fight. What's the point of being an underdog face if you'll never get into the title scene? I actually have to agree. Rosita is another case where I don't get the appeal. |
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Jan 12, 2013 18:57:33 GMT -5
People need somebody to cheer on in the face of insurmountable odds, and Rosita's odds seemed slightly less insurmountable than Katie's or Sarita's.
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Post by jimmyjames on Jan 13, 2013 0:06:37 GMT -5
I'm sorry but she would have never been more then lower card performer. She doesn't have the size to make it big. I doubt she could even take So Cal Val in a fight. What's the point of being an underdog face if you'll never get into the title scene? I actually have to agree. Rosita is another case where I don't get the appeal. I think it's a case of not getting a real chance. she debuted with that heartbreaking story, then later on that night, she part of an anti-American heel group, in which she was never more than window dressing. While she was with Sarita, with was still with Mexican America. She was never given a chance to fail or succeed on her own, even though TNA seemed at times, as if they were about to give her a chance. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 13, 2013 3:53:45 GMT -5
I actually have to agree. Rosita is another case where I don't get the appeal. I think it's a case of not getting a real chance. she debuted with that heartbreaking story, then later on that night, she part of an anti-American heel group, in which she was never more than window dressing. While she was with Sarita, with was still with Mexican America. She was never given a chance to fail or succeed on her own, even though TNA seemed at times, as if they were about to give her a chance. That was not her debut... I agree with the statement of blowing it with the sympathy at the 9/11 show but she was already on the roster at that point. |
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Jan 13, 2013 11:29:18 GMT -5
.......However, there's no ignoring that TNA was rolling towards having something that no other major wrestling company in the US has ever had: a women's division based mostly around in-ring talent and treated on a level nearly equal with the men. They had people to build around including Kong, Cheerleader Melissa, Sarita, and Hamada; even if some of them didn't win the KO belt or anything, they would still be good hands who would put on strong matches...... Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise the TNA KO Division? |
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