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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 10, 2013 12:03:56 GMT -5
Bob Backlund. He was Jobby McJobberton in 1993 and into 1994 before he snapped and turned heel on Bret Hart. To be fair with him and Pedro Morales, they were jobbing when they were getting a bit older and past their prime, so to me, it makes a little more sense. Backlund though snapped and got some of his wind back, but when a guy comes in, and he's a bit older and he's jobbed out, I don't find it's as bad as say, Jack Swagger, who is still in his prime and gets jobbed out, if you get me. |
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Jan 10, 2013 12:38:06 GMT -5
How about in WCW when Hogan came along? Once Hogan no sold the Vader Bomb, you could tell Vader's tenure as a beast was done. He still managed a good run in 1996, and probably could have been a force in the WWF if things has been slightly different. As much as his run with Hulk killed Vader's heat, squashing Gorilla Monsoon got Vader a lot of his heat back. |
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Post by NOwave on Jan 10, 2013 18:55:06 GMT -5
I get the OP's point, but would argue that Ron Simmons is not the best example. Ron Simmons was and is greatly respected in the industry and by many of the older fans who saw his world championship run.
He continued in the business after becoming the first black world heavyweight champion, working effectively in a variety of roles, none of which were really demeaning. You could argue the APA(multi-time world tag champions) was one of the best tag teams of the late 90s.
Besides the fact that he's a great athlete and legit badass(3-time All American, 7th in Heisman trophy voting, College football hall of fame) he has been the consummate "company man" and enjoyed long employment in the business as a result.
Pedro Morales is, I think, a much better example of this phenomena.
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Post by Glitch on Jan 10, 2013 19:16:27 GMT -5
I get the OP's point, but would argue that Ron Simmons is not the best example. Ron Simmons was and is greatly respected in the industry and by many of the older fans who saw his world championship run. He continued in the business after becoming the first black world heavyweight champion, working effectively in a variety of roles, none of which were really demeaning. You could argue the APA(multi-time world tag champions) was one of the best tag teams of the late 90s. Besides the fact that he's a great athlete and legit badass(3-time All American, 7th in Heisman trophy voting, College football hall of fame) he has been the consummate "company man" and enjoyed long employment in the business as a result. Pedro Morales is, I think, a much better example of this phenomena. I meant at some point they were in this position. ron Simmons didn´t stay a jobber, but he pretty much was one right before Apa. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 10, 2013 22:30:05 GMT -5
I think Jack Swagger has to be the modern poster boy for this.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 10, 2013 23:51:05 GMT -5
I think Jack Swagger has to be the modern poster boy for this. He's a good example to the argument of why there should be only one World title. |
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Jan 10, 2013 23:59:43 GMT -5
Raven in WWF I would think. If we are counting ECW champs, it basically doesn't get any lower than Justin Credible. He got everything he ever wanted and he'll never give that back. You say you hated X-Factor but you don't gotta bury him like that, I said, you don't gotta bury him like that. |
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Post by Danimal on Jan 11, 2013 4:23:44 GMT -5
Raven in WWF I would think. If we are counting ECW champs, it basically doesn't get any lower than Justin Credible. Ya, he ended-up a true jobber, getting whipped regularly on Heat. Didn't even get to be a JTTS in WWE. |
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Post by donbot on Jan 11, 2013 18:38:03 GMT -5
Alberto Del Rio and Jack Swagger I don't know so much about Jack Swagger since I've been half watching it lately, but Alberto Del Rio has always been kept on the upper mid-card/semi-main event level. Realistically, he shouldn't make it past IC title level. Great Khali might've not been a complete jobber, but he certainly has been made to look weak after he lost the World Heavyweight Title. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 8:32:53 GMT -5
Tommy Rich. Former NWA World Champion then later on he became a member of the FBI. But there's about a 20 year gap in-between. Former world champs should work more to draw attention and enhance younger wrestlers to the best of their abilities two decades later. Wrestling would be in a better place if more of them did that. Tommy Rich was constantly talked about as a "former NWA World Champion"...even during his phases in WCW as "Thomas Rich" of the York Foundation, or those "jobberific" tag matches with Ranger Ross. Holy crap, Tommy Rich was the master of the "12-minute time-wasting tag match" against two scrub wrestlers. (Most tag team squashes lasted a couple of minutes, not a whole quarter-hour!) |
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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 14, 2013 11:06:38 GMT -5
DDP. He held the WCW world title multiple times and was hella over with fans. Once he arrived in the WWF, McMahon and his bookers had him job to the Undertaker's wife, who has probably never wrestled before or since defeating DDP.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Jan 14, 2013 11:37:09 GMT -5
If we are counting ECW champs, it basically doesn't get any lower than Justin Credible. He got everything he ever wanted and he'll never give that back. You say you hated X-Factor but you don't gotta bury him like that, I said, you don't gotta bury him like that.  |
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