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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jan 10, 2013 16:18:48 GMT -5
If those matches do happen, they might as well call this WrestleMania 29: Extreme Rules. Why? Casue no way in hell Cena/Rock would end in a DQ and for a 2nd match needs some sort of gimmick imo, same with Taker/Punk because we all know Taker needs smoke and mirrors at his age and finally Brock/Triple H at SSlam wasn't great so I expect them to add weapons ala Brock/Cena.
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Post by BRV on Jan 10, 2013 16:19:13 GMT -5
Here'd be the top 4 matches for my 'Mania card... -John Cena vs. CM Punk vs. The Rock for the WWE Title All 3 have had issues with each other over the last few years. CM Punk gets his WM main event, which he says is the only thing he wants to accomplish that he hasn't been able to, and the possibilities for the match finish and resulting storylines are endless! -Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar Yeah, yeah....I know. We would already know what the outcome because there's no way Undertaker would lose to a part-timer like Lesnar (isn't that every year?), but the intrigue is there. I've been wanting to see this since... -Evolution (w/ Ric Flair) vs. The Shield (w/ Paul Heyman and/or Brad Maddox) You can get here easily. HHH calls out the Shield, saying all this mayhem they're causing can't continue under his watch as COO. He gets beat down. Orton tries to make the save, gets beat down. Batista's music hits, he clears house. Boom. Or...if {Spoiler}the rumored confrontation between Flair & Punk this Monday in Houston happens, you can have the Shield attack {Spoiler}Flair which sets up Evolution coming to his aid. Of course, this would be contingent on Batista returning, but I think it would be doable if WWE pressed hard enough. Could be HUGE for the Shield if they win at WM. -Big Show vs. Ryback for the WHC (with the winner possibly facing Dolph Ziggler after the match) Last one. Hear me out on this. Ryback wins the Rumble and challenges the Big Show (who regains WHC from Del Rio at Rumble). Because Ziggler can cash in his briefcase for a shot at the WHC at ANY TIME, I would incorporate him into the storyline by having him say he would cash in for a match against the winner or even cash in during the match when the Big Show is at his most vulnerable. Big E. and A.J. would be with him at ringside throughout the match, so Ziggler could cash in on Big Show during the match after Ryback does all the damage (Big E would tie up Ryback) or cash in on either Ryback/Show after the match (and he could still get help from Langston). I also thought about throwing a returning Mark Henry in here to cost Ryback the match, they fight to the back, and then Ziggler cashes in on Show. Lots of possibilities here and Ziggler lurking on the periphery the whole time adds a lot of interest to this match. Thoughts? I know it takes a lot of guys to fill out only 4 matches, leaving the rest of the card a bit weakened, but I think the match quality would be worth it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 16:20:14 GMT -5
Well how do you define a "huge" match? To me it's the match that the most people will pay to see. What WWE title match since Rock-Austin at 'Mania X7 has been bigger than Rock/Cena for the title would be? There is little to no correlation between how predictable a match is and how big it will be. Hell, if this card is true then 3 of the results would be predictable as hell. Yet all 3 of those would still be bigger draws than the one that is difficult to call (Orton-Sheamus). Fewer people will pay to see Rock/Cena in the main event of Wrestlemania one year after the last match (which was also the main event). Most of the people who go to Mania are usually hardcore fans from what I can tell and have seem evidence of. The Taker match is an exception to the rule because well...it just is at this stage. But the last few years, it really did look like Taker was going to lose at one stage so those matches are always worth paying for. 80% of that crowd will be 100% aware of two of the main events outcomes before they even get to the stadium. I will watch live probably because I always do for Mania, but I wouldn't pay to go to the event with some of those matches. HHH/Lesnar & Rock/Cena are just a waste at Mania this time around. You should NEVER waste a Mania match on the need to give someone their win back...never. By that virtue of their predictability and thus lower drawing potential because of that...no they're not the huge matches that Mania should host. Why do you keep talking about the "two" predictable main events like Punk/Undertaker (that and Brock/HHH would be promoted as equal semi-main events behind Rock/Cena) wouldn't be even more predictable than them both? At least there’s a 10% chance that Rock could beat Cena again and go down the Rock-Austin 'Mania trilogy route, building to a third and final match where Cena finally beats him. And there's at least a 5% chance that Brock could win if he's sticking around. With Punk-Taker there is literally ZERO chance of a Punk win. And people paying to go to the event doesn't mean a whole lot at this point when it comes to Wrestlemania. Most of the tickets are already sold. Sheamus vs. Aberto Del Rio could main event and there would still be 70,000 people there. Now it's about booking the main event that will get as many PPV buys as possible. Fewer people paid to see every other match in wrestling history than Rock/Cena 1. That covers a lot of ground. There is a LOT of money to be made by a rematch. Rock has more fans than all the other part-time attractions WWE has. At this point every match he has could be his last so his fans will pay to see him while they can. Cena has more fans than all the other full-time attractions WWE has. After him losing last year his fans will be even more determined to see him beat Rock and will pay to see it. Put those together and there's no way that match doesn't do huge business. Rock-Austin 2 made more money than the first. Hogan-Andre 2 was the most watched wrestling match ever on television. Hogan-Warrior 2 (as terrible as it was) was the second biggest drawing match in WCW history. Sequels sell. Looking at all the possibilities and using educated guesses based on the facts that we know then there are realistically only two possible matches that could be bigger than Rock/Cena 2: The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar and John Cena vs. Undertaker. Like I said earlier, I would love to see both of those this year but I don't think we will because a) Rock/Brock would mean a third year running where the show ends with a guy on top who's not going to be around afterwards and I don't think they'll do that; and b) I think they're saving Cena/Undertaker for 'Mania 30 next year and want Cena to go into that match on the back of a huge win over Rock rather than losing his previous 2/3 'Mania matches. |
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Post by modestgenius on Jan 10, 2013 16:27:03 GMT -5
I just hope this lives up to Undertaker Vs Cena which we had in 2007.
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Post by Z-A Sandbaggin' Son of a b!%@h on Jan 10, 2013 16:57:17 GMT -5
Cena/Rock Twice in a span of a year.
Hope they sold enough of those Once in a Lifetime DVDs
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Post by mrjl on Jan 10, 2013 16:59:58 GMT -5
A tag line has turned people into marks.
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Post by Cronant on Jan 10, 2013 17:02:20 GMT -5
Yeah, a tag line has to be the dumbest f***ing reason I've heard as to why a rematch shouldn't happen. No one really knew if the Rock was going wrestle after that during the build up.
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Post by DIIV on Jan 10, 2013 17:03:47 GMT -5
A card of rematches?
Yawn. Pass.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 10, 2013 17:06:04 GMT -5
I wouldn't really mind another HHH/Lesnar match. Other than that Orton/Sheamus really isn't world title at WM material, I have no interest in seeing Punk job to Taker and even less interest in watching Cena get his win back.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 10, 2013 17:06:58 GMT -5
If this is actually true and turns out to be the card, yeah, there's no way I would pay to see any of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 17:15:01 GMT -5
Rock vs. Lesnar: Loser stays in town match.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 17:30:56 GMT -5
Yeah, a tag line has to be the dumbest f***ing reason I've heard as to why a rematch shouldn't happen. No one really knew if the Rock was going wrestle after that during the build up. To be fair, it's probably mostly just people who don't like Cena and/or Rock and don't want to see the match again, period, tagline or not. And there's no shame in admitting that. Just because a match is good for business doesn't mean they have to like it. It's hilarious though when people are all like "no one wants to see Rock/Cena or *insert whatever match here* again!” then in the next sentence go on to suggest a match that is 99% guaranteed to be a match less people would pay to see than the first one. Like, just admit it's your own opinion and don't try and talk for the majority. And if the ultimate plan to all of this is what I think it is (Rock beats Cena at 'Mania 28, Cena beats Rock at 'Mania 29, Undertaker-Cena and Rock putting someone else over in his last match at 'Mania 30) it will probably end up being lauded as great and logical long-term booking by most when it's all said and done. Rock gets to win his first match back in his hometown. Cena gets to win the rematch so that ultimately the current guy comes out on top over the old guy and sets him up for 'Taker next year. And we get 3 years worth of record breaking or near record breaking main events out of it. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 10, 2013 18:12:17 GMT -5
While it's a very uncompelling card given the logical conclusions that would come about, I could almost guarantee that casual fans would empty their wallets for that.
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Jan 10, 2013 18:12:32 GMT -5
I understand Rock/Cena happening, but Lesnar/HHH would just be awful.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 18:13:33 GMT -5
They have to go with Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan again to complete the trilogy.
Match 1: Bumped from the show
Match 2: 18 second squash
Match 3: 3 Minute Ironman match.
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Post by Cronant on Jan 10, 2013 18:15:04 GMT -5
I kinda want Rock/Cena, HHH/Taker, and Sheamus/DB.
27,28, and 29 would be one solid story. I don't know what story it would be, but it'd be there. Dem Trilogies.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 10, 2013 18:24:58 GMT -5
Sure all those will sell a lot of PPV buys, but I don't care about Cena or HHH getting their wins back, and Taker/Punk had at best passing chemistry when they wrestled back in 2009 so those three aren't blowing me away.
Orton/Sheamus has potential even if it means poor Dolph will be left out in the cold again.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Jan 10, 2013 18:29:09 GMT -5
Sure all those will sell a lot of PPV buys, but I don't care about Cena or HHH getting their wins back, and Taker/Punk had at best passing chemistry when they wrestled back in 2009 so those three aren't blowing me away. Orton/Sheamus has potential even if it means poor Dolph will be left out in the cold again. Dolph would rather be cold in the open than this: {Spoiler} Dolph is Brogue'd 18 seconds into the match after a kiss from AJ. |
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Post by boydy on Jan 10, 2013 18:36:58 GMT -5
Here is my card for Wrestlemania
John Cena Vs The Undertaker
The Rock Vs Dolph Ziggler
Ryback Vs Brock Lesnar
HHH, Orton & Batista Vs The Shield
Daniel Bryan Vs Chris Jericho
Alberto Del Rio Vs Rey Mysterio Vs Sin Cara
AJ Vs Kaitlyn
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Post by Starshine on Jan 10, 2013 18:40:03 GMT -5
Did anyone really ask to see another Sheamus/Orton match?
I really hope it doesn't happen especially considering other happenings this week.
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