|
|
Post by viking85 on Jan 10, 2013 12:57:13 GMT -5
I hope the undertaker will never lose at a wrestlemania, but if he does doesn't that still make his mania record impressive ?
i mean it's not like we will ever get another wrestler winning 20 wrestlemanias again so if the streak ends his mania record is still one of a kind and amazing , imo.
agree ? disagree ?
|
|
The Doctor
Dennis Stamp
New teeth. That's weird.
Posts: 4,952
|
Post by The Doctor on Jan 10, 2013 13:06:27 GMT -5
Definitely still impressive and worth talking about. It's still a winning streak even if it ends at some point.
|
|
Arrow
Hank Scorpio
Posts: 5,122
|
Post by Arrow on Jan 10, 2013 13:08:11 GMT -5
An undefeated streak means nothing once you take that loss. If you were to present to someone a record of "20-1" chances are they're not going to care about the 20, their attention is going to be drawn to the one person who beat him.
|
|
Push R Truth
Patti Mayonnaise
Unique and Special Snowflake, and a pants-less heathen.
Perpetually Constipated
Posts: 39,294
|
Post by Push R Truth on Jan 10, 2013 13:17:17 GMT -5
Ask the New England Patriots about their undefeated streak
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 13:30:42 GMT -5
An undefeated streak means nothing once you take that loss. If you were to present to someone a record of "20-1" chances are they're not going to care about the 20, their attention is going to be drawn to the one person who beat him. This, IMO. The "and one" would always draw the most interest, and that's why that one win would be just about the biggest rub anyone could ever get. |
|
|
|
Post by Snaptastic on Jan 10, 2013 13:47:01 GMT -5
Well I don't think Taker is too fussed about it. Didn't he want to give Orton the win a few years back but Orton declined?
|
|
|
|
Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 10, 2013 14:07:14 GMT -5
Well I don't think Taker is too fussed about it. Didn't he want to give Orton the win a few years back but Orton declined? I remember that and I think the same happened with HBK in the first go around. As for as a lost. It's hard to say because it will still be the greatest win lost record in Wrestlemania history which says a lot I think. The ask new england comment doesn't compare because it wm. It's not a regular season. It's like being unbeaten at the superbowl. Taker is kinda the Ny yankee's of WM. |
|
Essential1
Hank Scorpio
Sigs/Avatars cannot exceed 1MB
Posts: 6,080
|
Post by Essential1 on Jan 10, 2013 14:36:53 GMT -5
A guy like Michael Cole may not care...and big him up.
|
|
|
|
Post by KobashiChop on Jan 10, 2013 14:52:04 GMT -5
It just loses its aura.
from every Wrestlemania after the Undertaker retires, the streak will hang over it as an objective for everyone on the roster without a Mania loss to pursue. It adds to Mania's mystique that a guy could spend 20+ years in the WWE and NEVER lose at the big show.
|
|
Bub (BLM)
Patti Mayonnaise
advocates duck on rodent violence
Fed. Up.
Posts: 37,742
|
Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 10, 2013 15:05:05 GMT -5
It just loses its aura. from every Wrestlemania after the Undertaker retires, the streak will hang over it as an objective for everyone on the roster without a Mania loss to pursue. It adds to Mania's mystique that a guy could spend 20+ years in the WWE and NEVER lose at the big show. It also makes all the matches a foregone conclusion, which takes away most of the drama. It's never "Is Shawn Michaels going to beat The Undertaker?" but rather "I wonder how Shawn is going to get beaten by Undertaker". |
|
Marty McFry
Don Corleone
"She was mine before she was yours.... Wooooo"
Posts: 1,657
|
Post by Marty McFry on Jan 10, 2013 15:05:21 GMT -5
If I was vince I would sit down with Punk, Taker and one of two others and discuss what Punk going over Taker would mean in terms of sending punk to that next and final (Austin, Rock, Hogan) level versus what it means to Takers and Wrestlemanias legacy.
|
|
|
|
Post by Zombie Mod on Jan 10, 2013 15:08:53 GMT -5
nope dont want the streak to be broken personally.
|
|
|
|
Post by KobashiChop on Jan 10, 2013 15:12:25 GMT -5
It just loses its aura. from every Wrestlemania after the Undertaker retires, the streak will hang over it as an objective for everyone on the roster without a Mania loss to pursue. It adds to Mania's mystique that a guy could spend 20+ years in the WWE and NEVER lose at the big show. It also makes all the matches a foregone conclusion, which takes away most of the drama. It's never "Is Shawn Michaels going to beat The Undertaker?" but rather "I wonder how Shawn is going to get beaten by Undertaker". Speak for yourself. Its the purpose of the feud to create the idea of a potential streak breaker. They did it for WM 23, 24, 25, 27 and 28. (26 was kind of a foregone conclusion because you could tell Shawn was going) |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 16:38:27 GMT -5
It just loses its aura. from every Wrestlemania after the Undertaker retires, the streak will hang over it as an objective for everyone on the roster without a Mania loss to pursue. It adds to Mania's mystique that a guy could spend 20+ years in the WWE and NEVER lose at the big show. It also makes all the matches a foregone conclusion, which takes away most of the drama. It's never "Is Shawn Michaels going to beat The Undertaker?" but rather "I wonder how Shawn is going to get beaten by Undertaker". Did you see the last 4/5 Wrestlemania's? The Undertaker's match was the most dramatic on the card and had the biggest "holy shit" reaction nearfalls every time. If I was vince I would sit down with Punk, Taker and one of two others and discuss what Punk going over Taker would mean in terms of sending punk to that next and final (Austin, Rock, Hogan) level versus what it means to Takers and Wrestlemanias legacy. Punk could go over Taker at 'Mania, beat Cena and Ryback another dozen times and hold the title for another 500 days and he still wouldn't be on Cena/Undertaker/HHH level, much less Austin/Rock/Hogan. Punk, Cena, Ryback. It doesn't matter who. I don't think the streak should ever end. Especially to someone who has already hit his ceiling, is pretty banged up physcially and is probably less than 2 years away from either retiring or at least taking on a reduced schedule. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 16:41:33 GMT -5
Screw world titles, the streak is Taker's crown jewel and it should stay that way.
|
|
The Doctor
Dennis Stamp
New teeth. That's weird.
Posts: 4,952
|
Post by The Doctor on Jan 10, 2013 17:08:02 GMT -5
I still maintain that even if he loses he still went 20+ Wrestlemania's without losing. That is still an achievement. You just start thinking of it as a 20 match winning streak rather than simply as 20-1.
Not saying I want it to be broken. Just that if it is then it still stands as an impressive feat of longevity.
Like any streak in a real sport they don't cease to have existed just because they end. Arsenal's 49 game unbeaten streak, for example, is still an impressive feat. It isn't forgotten because it ended.
|
|
