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Post by salsashark on Jan 11, 2013 17:32:20 GMT -5
I don't think Watchmen was a bad movie at all -- just not great. I would have saved any gory deconstruction stuff and stereotype skewering for the film version of another, less revered superhero franchise. This also reminds me of Kick-Ass. I thought that was a great movie at the beginning by showing the ridiculousness of being a superhero, but then in the second half, it totally suffers from cake-having/cake-eating, too, by becoming a pretty run of the mill superhero film with ridiculous special effects and wish fulfillment. I feel like that could have really done something new for the genre if done right. (Never read the comic, mind you -- just basing this on the movie.) to be fair, the book's ending (like most of Mark Milllar's work) is unfilmable, mean-spirited crap about how only losers like comic books and how you're a bad person for liking escapism. and for the record, guys, simply being darker and more violent doesn't mean it's a deconstruction. not to be a prick but I hate how the word gets thrown around like that. I definitely don't think deconstruction just means being darker and more violent. That's silly. It's just that both Kick-Ass and Watchmen play with ideas of subverting their genres and finding and commenting on subtexts and all, and both are violent. I actually think Kick-Ass would have been interesting even as a PG-13 movie if we'd seen a guy who thinks he can be a superhero but isn't grasping all the real world logic-defying he needs to make that happen. |
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Post by salsashark on Jan 11, 2013 17:35:11 GMT -5
I liked 'Captain America' a lot, and the fact that it took off with an audience not big on most comic book movies speaks on where I think the genre needs to go - period pieces. I think setting superhero films anywhere but the present day opens up more possibilities for freshness and the unexpected. This is an excellent point, too. Captain America definitely gave me an Indiana Jones-ish vibe. It'd be cool to see some kind of seriously sci-fi superhero movie. I also think Daredevil (and maybe Punisher) would work really well as crime drama material with some smarts to go with the violence. |
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 11, 2013 17:37:17 GMT -5
Superhero genre...dead? I'd argue it's more popular than it's ever been.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 11, 2013 19:15:38 GMT -5
Marvel needs to do middle-of-the-road comic movies again. Avengers and anything related will aim sky high, so do stuff like Dr. Strange or a Daredevil reboot or Power Pack to remind people that not all Marvel comic movies are going to be $900mil blockbusters. Because if people start thinking that way, and they do movies that don't make huge money, THEN the fanbase and general opinion could very well turn on them. That's why, IMO, DC not doing blockbuster after blockbuster and creating an interwoven web of Justice League-level movies once/twice a year isn't that bad of a thing. They don't look like copycats following Marvel's lead, and they're not wearing the fanbase out. That's not a bad idea. For filmmakers, it'd do a lot to push the mentality that the comic book film market isn't that high risk. |
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