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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 13:46:49 GMT -5
And I think after Dark Knight Rises and Avengers it's almost time for superhero movies to take a powder (not a personal view, just that their limelight should naturally fade soon).
So looking at the film horizon, whaddaya think is gonna be that genre you can't get away from for the next couple of years?
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 11, 2013 13:49:22 GMT -5
Comic book films aren't going anywhere, dude. If anything after the success of the MCU culminating in The Avengers, there might be even more comic book films but now all of them belong to an interwoven continuity.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 11, 2013 14:01:17 GMT -5
I want some R Rated dinosaur movies that are NOT 5$ SyFy channel CGI-fests
I've seen enough crappy cgi dinos eating people in clouds of blood to last a lifetime.
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Post by Cela on Jan 11, 2013 14:04:52 GMT -5
I doubt the buddy flick is dead. It's just no one wants to see middle aged depression comedy.
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Post by salsashark on Jan 11, 2013 14:05:37 GMT -5
As a comic book fan who has seen most of the movies in theaters over the years, yeah, I'm getting pretty bored of the genre, too. There have only been a couple of ballsy (or even mildly ballsy) superhero flicks that have been released in the last six or so years, so I don't get too excited when I see these movies nowadays. They tend to be super formulaic. Someone needs to start bending the genre or else it will eventually suffer from burnout.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 14:11:25 GMT -5
Comic book films aren't going anywhere, dude. If anything after the success of the MCU culminating in The Avengers, there might be even more comic book films but now all of them belong to an interwoven continuity. You realize you just predicted a genre overload? That, sir, is the universal death knell. As a comic book fan who has seen most of the movies in theaters over the years, yeah, I'm getting pretty bored of the genre, too. Don't get it twisted, I got no problems with superhero flicks. I think they've been around long enough till where all we need is a deconstruction of the genre and then the sincere movie afterwards that isn't actually bad, but well-worn enough to where people are outright offended by it. It's the cinema cycle of life.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 11, 2013 14:17:49 GMT -5
^ Superhero films have already survived one genre overload. Remember that early-to-mid 2000s period where every damn character Marvel owned was getting their own films?
If the genre could survive that flood of mediocre at best crap then it'll survive this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 14:35:39 GMT -5
I could live without too many more superhero flicks for the next few years. There are plenty of comic/novel properties that would be much more entertaining that yet another Bat/Supes/Avengers movie. Especially after how badly they've been phoning it in with films like Thor, Capt Am, and Iron Man 2.
The next big trend? I think we'll see a resurgence of "fairy-tale" influenced movies. We've begun to see it in TV and I think shit like Hanzel and Gretel is just the beginning of what's to come (hopefully with varying degrees of quality).
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Post by Vampiro138 on Jan 11, 2013 14:40:07 GMT -5
an R rated Punisher film would be great....
ditto to some comic strips movies i would like to see, like a R rated Andy Capp or R rated Hagar movie.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 11, 2013 14:46:23 GMT -5
I think they've been around long enough till where all we need is a deconstruction of the genre... Ahem.
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Post by salsashark on Jan 11, 2013 14:57:23 GMT -5
On the comic strip front, I wouldn't mind seeing a new, non-boring Dick Tracy movie. I always thought that he was a bad ass who could make an impact on a new audience in a big way (in a similar way to this new interest in Sherlock Holmes) after some tweaking.
I still think there is and always will be juice in comic book movies, BTW -- I just think there needs to be a few weirder films or ones that are more playful in how they approach things. For as many complaints I've heard from this forum about the Nolan style, at least it's a style with a bit of its own personality to it. All these Marvel movies nowadays look and really feel the same with requisite changes in setting.
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Post by salsashark on Jan 11, 2013 15:03:22 GMT -5
I think they've been around long enough till where all we need is a deconstruction of the genre... Ahem. Ya know, I was thinking of Watchmen earlier in this thread, but even that I think wasn't a great adaption for a whole bunch of reasons. First off, it has a glossy feel that the comic series doesn't have, which isn't true to the original material. (I understand why it has the glossiness, but at the same time, it doesn't feel right.) Plus, I felt like the flick didn't capture the real tone of the book. Yes, it literally matched scenes angle for angle, but the tone itself was off. For example, there's that completely over-the-top scene where Nite-Owl and Silk Spectre (I think) take on the gang in the alley. In the movie, it's all ridiculously bloody martial arts that looks like something out of a gory Matrix movie. In the comics, it was more human, more crude. I think that scene just represented how Snyder and co. wanted to have their superhero-film-deconstruction cake and eat their regular-style-superhero-film cake, too. Also, it had one of the most unintentionally hilarious line readings ever:
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Post by Cyno on Jan 11, 2013 15:08:24 GMT -5
I think the Watchmen movie was a fairly successful attempt at the deconstruction of superhero movies, even if wasn't as great an adaptation of the source material. Actually, a lot of the reasons why it wasn't as great an adaptation were the same reasons why it was a great deconstruction of the movie genre with the gore and the sexed up costumes and batnipples and whatnot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 15:11:36 GMT -5
Marvel needs to do middle-of-the-road comic movies again. Avengers and anything related will aim sky high, so do stuff like Dr. Strange or a Daredevil reboot or Power Pack to remind people that not all Marvel comic movies are going to be $900mil blockbusters.
Because if people start thinking that way, and they do movies that don't make huge money, THEN the fanbase and general opinion could very well turn on them.
That's why, IMO, DC not doing blockbuster after blockbuster and creating an interwoven web of Justice League-level movies once/twice a year isn't that bad of a thing. They don't look like copycats following Marvel's lead, and they're not wearing the fanbase out.
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Post by salsashark on Jan 11, 2013 15:15:03 GMT -5
I think the Watchmen movie was a fairly successful attempt at the deconstruction of superhero movies, even if wasn't as great an adaptation of the source material. Actually, a lot of the reasons why it wasn't as great an adaptation were the same reasons why it was a great deconstruction of the movie genre with the gore and the sexed up costumes and batnipples and whatnot. I don't think Watchmen was a bad movie at all -- just not great. I would have saved any gory deconstruction stuff and stereotype skewering for the film version of another, less revered superhero franchise. This also reminds me of Kick-Ass. I thought that was a great movie at the beginning by showing the ridiculousness of being a superhero, but then in the second half, it totally suffers from cake-having/cake-eating, too, by becoming a pretty run of the mill superhero film with ridiculous special effects and wish fulfillment. I feel like that could have really done something new for the genre if done right. (Never read the comic, mind you -- just basing this on the movie.)
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Post by Yami Daimao on Jan 11, 2013 15:24:59 GMT -5
The next big trend? I think we'll see a resurgence of "fairy-tale" influenced movies. We've begun to see it in TV and I think s*** like Hanzel and Gretel is just the beginning of what's to come (hopefully with varying degrees of quality). Hm, you actually might be on to something. The two different Snow White movies almost back to back supports this.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 11, 2013 16:35:47 GMT -5
I think they've been around long enough till where all we need is a deconstruction of the genre... Ahem. the book, yes. the movie... eh, not so much. it got all the major plot points yes, but it totally missed the boat in terms of the feel, and most of the deconstructive elements and subtlety were removed in favor of an R-rated Avengers movie.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 11, 2013 16:39:28 GMT -5
I think the Watchmen movie was a fairly successful attempt at the deconstruction of superhero movies, even if wasn't as great an adaptation of the source material. Actually, a lot of the reasons why it wasn't as great an adaptation were the same reasons why it was a great deconstruction of the movie genre with the gore and the sexed up costumes and batnipples and whatnot. I don't think Watchmen was a bad movie at all -- just not great. I would have saved any gory deconstruction stuff and stereotype skewering for the film version of another, less revered superhero franchise. This also reminds me of Kick-Ass. I thought that was a great movie at the beginning by showing the ridiculousness of being a superhero, but then in the second half, it totally suffers from cake-having/cake-eating, too, by becoming a pretty run of the mill superhero film with ridiculous special effects and wish fulfillment. I feel like that could have really done something new for the genre if done right. (Never read the comic, mind you -- just basing this on the movie.) to be fair, the book's ending (like most of Mark Milllar's work) is unfilmable, mean-spirited crap about how only losers like comic books and how you're a bad person for liking escapism. and for the record, guys, simply being darker and more violent doesn't mean it's a deconstruction. not to be a prick but I hate how the word gets thrown around like that.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 11, 2013 17:12:07 GMT -5
I liked 'Captain America' a lot, and the fact that it took off with an audience not big on most comic book movies speaks on where I think the genre needs to go - period pieces. I think setting superhero films anywhere but the present day opens up more possibilities for freshness and the unexpected.
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Post by utilityforward on Jan 11, 2013 17:27:36 GMT -5
The next big trend? I think we'll see a resurgence of "fairy-tale" influenced movies. We've begun to see it in TV and I think s*** like Hanzel and Gretel is just the beginning of what's to come (hopefully with varying degrees of quality). Hm, you actually might be on to something. The two different Snow White movies almost back to back supports this. Hopefully this means a dresden files film, because that could be really good.
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