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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 15, 2013 0:53:40 GMT -5
Honestly, most people(not everyone though) here are fond of Ryder, including me. He is whiny, he isn't a technical wizard, he sends people to the ER when he touches the mic, but we still love him. It's just that he's so damn easy to poke fun at. Still, I love the guy. He's my favorite wrestler. Yeah, I still like him too. Honestly, I don't think anything has really changed with him, personality-wise. As such, I can't shake the feeling off that it's the opinions of some of the fanbase that have changed instead, and that some of those would tolerate his whining more if he WAS actually better. 18 months ago... Ryder: Push me! Fans: Push him, WWE! Give him a shot! Now... Ryder: Push me! Fans: You had your chance, and you blew it. F*** off.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Jan 15, 2013 1:00:10 GMT -5
Honestly, most people(not everyone though) here are fond of Ryder, including me. He is whiny, he isn't a technical wizard, he sends people to the ER when he touches the mic, but we still love him. It's just that he's so damn easy to poke fun at. Still, I love the guy. He's my favorite wrestler. Yeah, I still like him too. Honestly, I don't think anything has really changed with him, personality-wise. As such, I can't shake the feeling off that it's the opinions of some of the fanbase that have changed instead, and that some of those would tolerate his whining more if he WAS actually better. 18 months ago... Ryder: Push me! Fans: Push him, WWE! Give him a shot! Now... Ryder: Push me! Fans: You had your chance, and you blew it. F*** off. I think he didn't exactly blow it. He was over as hell when he won the title off Ziggler, then the Kane stuff happened and...yeah. I think if anything, and I mean this with relatively little irony in my tone, most of this can be blamed on the fact that Ryder exhausted his resource of puns early on and is now reduced to direct cheap shots or very bad puns. Those suck and are no fun. I became a fan with the TRYING TO GET OVER pun. Now though? Dude can't make a good pun to save his career; it's not his fault. There are only so many puns you can make about the same subject. But dammit, I miss the times when his whining was done through clever puns and cheesy jokes.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 15, 2013 1:05:10 GMT -5
Now... Ryder: Push me! Fans: You had your chance, and you blew it. F*** off. This right here.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 15, 2013 3:24:10 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't think anything has really changed with him, personality-wise. As such, I can't shake the feeling off that it's the opinions of some of the fanbase that have changed instead, and that some of those would tolerate his whining more if he WAS actually better. 18 months ago... Ryder: Push me! Fans: Push him, WWE! Give him a shot! Now... Ryder: Push me! Fans: You had your chance, and you blew it. F*** off. As he's been showcased more, I think some fans have been able to determine for themselves what they think Ryder is best at and what they think he may need to work on. Or at least they expected him to evolve more as a performer after his suipporting role in Embrace The Hate, but he didn't grow much IMO. WWE already has an idea of what they feel Ryder's capable of, and if there's more, he needs to show it to them. The ball's bounced into his court.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Jan 15, 2013 5:43:41 GMT -5
I unfollowed him cause I was tired of his whining.
But I did it after he reached 1,000,000, cause deep down inside, even I want him as a #SEVENFIGUREBROSKI
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Post by pepsitwist on Jan 15, 2013 5:46:00 GMT -5
1 follower is his father. The rest are porn bots.
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Post by joebob27 on Jan 15, 2013 5:47:51 GMT -5
My opinion, they gave him a shot, he got over, and then they booked him in a way that well, he'd probably be better not being on TV.
He's John Cena's buddy, but the evil Kane makes him look mentally challenged, the girl doesn't want him because she wants super sexy John Cena, then Kane cripples him, so he has to walk around with a back brace, then Cena screws the girl and disposes of her because she's a manipulative slut.... but dumbass Zach Ryder takes her back and she screws him over, not only costing him a match, but costing Teddy Long his job and making Johnny Ace Lord of the WWE.
Then he jobs a bunch. Some shot.
You could have taken Randy Savage, given him this storyline and he'd look like a schmuck.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 15, 2013 5:48:31 GMT -5
1 follower is his father. The rest are porn bots. Porn bots are people too. Or they're computerized representatives of people.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 8:08:08 GMT -5
My opinion, they gave him a shot, he got over, and then they booked him in a way that well, he'd probably be better not being on TV. He's John Cena's buddy, but the evil Kane makes him look mentally challenged, the girl doesn't want him because she wants super sexy John Cena, then Kane cripples him, so he has to walk around with a back brace, then Cena screws the girl and disposes of her because she's a manipulative slut.... but dumbass Zach Ryder takes her back and she screws him over, not only costing him a match, but costing Teddy Long his job and making Johnny Ace Lord of the WWE. Then he jobs a bunch. Some shot. This, please. Everyone read this, please. Because THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
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Post by thetimetraveler on Jan 15, 2013 8:17:24 GMT -5
My opinion, they gave him a shot, he got over, and then they booked him in a way that well, he'd probably be better not being on TV. He's John Cena's buddy, but the evil Kane makes him look mentally challenged, the girl doesn't want him because she wants super sexy John Cena, then Kane cripples him, so he has to walk around with a back brace, then Cena screws the girl and disposes of her because she's a manipulative slut.... but dumbass Zach Ryder takes her back and she screws him over, not only costing him a match, but costing Teddy Long his job and making Johnny Ace Lord of the WWE. Then he jobs a bunch. Some shot. This, please. Everyone read this, please. Because THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.You forgot the part where he regressed as a wrestler, whined all the time on the internet and forgot that his gimmick was several years out of date.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 15, 2013 8:52:55 GMT -5
A year too late
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Post by YiHammer on Jan 15, 2013 9:20:54 GMT -5
My opinion, they gave him a shot, he got over, and then they booked him in a way that well, he'd probably be better not being on TV. He's John Cena's buddy, but the evil Kane makes him look mentally challenged, the girl doesn't want him because she wants super sexy John Cena, then Kane cripples him, so he has to walk around with a back brace, then Cena screws the girl and disposes of her because she's a manipulative slut.... but dumbass Zach Ryder takes her back and she screws him over, not only costing him a match, but costing Teddy Long his job and making Johnny Ace Lord of the WWE. Then he jobs a bunch. Some shot. You could have taken Randy Savage, given him this storyline and he'd look like a schmuck. This how people constantly deny WWEs burial of him blows my mind
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 15, 2013 9:26:05 GMT -5
Sorry Ryder, 7 figures is so yesterday. You now need 8 figures to rock this ring.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Jan 15, 2013 9:31:25 GMT -5
My opinion, they gave him a shot, he got over, and then they booked him in a way that well, he'd probably be better not being on TV. He's John Cena's buddy, but the evil Kane makes him look mentally challenged, the girl doesn't want him because she wants super sexy John Cena, then Kane cripples him, so he has to walk around with a back brace, then Cena screws the girl and disposes of her because she's a manipulative slut.... but dumbass Zach Ryder takes her back and she screws him over, not only costing him a match, but costing Teddy Long his job and making Johnny Ace Lord of the WWE. Then he jobs a bunch. Some shot. You could have taken Randy Savage, given him this storyline and he'd look like a schmuck. This how people constantly deny WWEs burial of him blows my mind Nothing is ever WWE Management or Creative's fault when it's a wrestler that I do not like, so there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 9:40:34 GMT -5
My opinion, they gave him a shot, he got over, and then they booked him in a way that well, he'd probably be better not being on TV. He's John Cena's buddy, but the evil Kane makes him look mentally challenged, the girl doesn't want him because she wants super sexy John Cena, then Kane cripples him, so he has to walk around with a back brace, then Cena screws the girl and disposes of her because she's a manipulative slut.... but dumbass Zach Ryder takes her back and she screws him over, not only costing him a match, but costing Teddy Long his job and making Johnny Ace Lord of the WWE. Then he jobs a bunch. Some shot. This, please. Everyone read this, please. Because THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.His wrestling was average at best, his promos were 50% awful, 50% woo woo woo you know it, he couldn't act if his life depended on it, and his character is built to be a comedic jobber. That also actually happened.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 15, 2013 9:41:34 GMT -5
I laughed when his tweet on Raw was complaining about the Internet title not being on tv. After that, WWE stop displaying his tweets.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 15, 2013 10:00:09 GMT -5
My opinion, they gave him a shot, he got over, and then they booked him in a way that well, he'd probably be better not being on TV. He's John Cena's buddy, but the evil Kane makes him look mentally challenged, the girl doesn't want him because she wants super sexy John Cena, then Kane cripples him, so he has to walk around with a back brace, then Cena screws the girl and disposes of her because she's a manipulative slut.... but dumbass Zach Ryder takes her back and she screws him over, not only costing him a match, but costing Teddy Long his job and making Johnny Ace Lord of the WWE. Then he jobs a bunch. Some shot. You could have taken Randy Savage, given him this storyline and he'd look like a schmuck. This how people constantly deny WWEs burial of him blows my mind It goes both ways though. WWE can give someone a bad storyline but if that wrestler isn't terribly good, it's going to come off even worse. Zack Ryder really has a lot going for him, he can really get the crowd going with the "Woo! Woo! Woo!" stuff and he's a serviceable wrestler. The guy just can't act to save his life.
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Post by YiHammer on Jan 15, 2013 10:25:18 GMT -5
He's a wrestler not an actor.
The Rock couldn't make that Kane/Eve segment watchable. A shitty script isn't Ryders fault
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 15, 2013 10:32:59 GMT -5
He's a wrestler not an actor. The Rock couldn't make that Kane/Eve segment watchable. A s***ty script isn't Ryders fault The Rock definitely would made the angle work. And the modern wrestler has to be a wrestler, an actor, and an entertainer. My favorite wrestler, Benjamin, can't cut a good promo and he suffered as a result.
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Post by bertheart90 on Jan 15, 2013 10:36:35 GMT -5
Lets hope some of those million are people who can book him after mania
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