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Post by christobel on Jan 16, 2013 9:38:55 GMT -5
Afternoon chaps. Wondered if you could help me with a quanderical ponderence I am currently laboring under?
How come, during a few cage matches I've seen on TNA (I'm sure other companies do it as well), a guy could win by just walking out the door? Is it a regular thing?
Doesn't that kinda defeat the object - I mean, why have a cage when you can score the win by simply wafting out through the front door?
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, I TELL THEE!!
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jan 16, 2013 10:11:43 GMT -5
Cage Matches can be won through the door since it's introduction. Or at least the ring story is that it can. I remember one where one crawled toward the door, the other climbed up and won by jumping down.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 16, 2013 15:45:25 GMT -5
Yeah, this is true of cage matches in every single promotion I've ever watched.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Jan 16, 2013 16:43:01 GMT -5
Yeah, this is true of cage matches in every single promotion I've ever watched. |
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Post by Error on Jan 16, 2013 17:11:47 GMT -5
I want to say it wan't always true in NWA/WCW cage matches, that they started with ending in pin or submission only, then added escape over the cage and finally gave in to add the door but am completely unsure.
Either way, I hate the escape by door crap. Completely defeats the purpose of and idea behind the cage match.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 16, 2013 18:25:01 GMT -5
I want to say it wan't always true in NWA/WCW cage matches, that they started with ending in pin or submission only, then added escape over the cage and finally gave in to add the door but am completely unsure. Either way, I hate the escape by door crap. Completely defeats the purpose of and idea behind the cage match. I think you're right about the NWA. Starrcade 1983 is headlined by Race vs. Flair in a cage, and it is decidedly not an escape match. That was before my time, however, and I'm relatively sure WCW went the escape route later. I know they did by the time the company was dying, since that's how Russo won the World Title. |
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Post by Paco on Jan 16, 2013 22:20:45 GMT -5
Anderson vs. Angle was a PERFECT use of escape rules. Such a great match.
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Post by Celgress on Jan 16, 2013 23:25:04 GMT -5
Anderson vs. Angle was a PERFECT use of escape rules. Such a great match. agreed, on both counts  |
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 17, 2013 1:28:49 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure WCW/NWA didn't do it for a long time. I remember laughing about their line about "matches where you win by running away".
Though I agree. The way it plays out is stupid. The concept makes sense. Even as a kid, I took it as "beat your opponent to the point where you can easily exit the cage".
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Jan 17, 2013 6:46:08 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, is there a video game where you can win a cage match by walking out the door?
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Post by Error on Jan 17, 2013 9:36:14 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, is there a video game where you can win a cage match by walking out the door? Whatever the last Smackdown vs. Raw and WWE 12 both have it. Not sure about 13. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 17, 2013 9:53:00 GMT -5
Frankly, I'd be happy to see more cage matches that don't allow for escape. When a match is meant to keep a heel in a confined space, so that he can't run from the face, or when a match is meant to be a definitive feud-ender, the cage should simply add to the barbarism involved in each. By adding the escape aspect, it loses some of that.
Not to say there should never be "escape" matches, as I think they have their place (Bret and Owen proved that at SummerSlam 1994), but I'd prefer if they weren't so prevalent.
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Post by Error on Jan 17, 2013 12:19:52 GMT -5
Frankly, I'd be happy to see more cage matches that don't allow for escape. When a match is meant to keep a heel in a confined space, so that he can't run from the face, or when a match is meant to be a definitive feud-ender, the cage should simply add to the barbarism involved in each. By adding the escape aspect, it loses some of that. Not to say there should never be "escape" matches, as I think they have their place (Bret and Owen proved that at SummerSlam 1994), but I'd prefer if they weren't so prevalent. I wouldn't mind escape if it was over the top only, the door just bugs me. That said, I'd love to see them do more where it's pin, submission, or even KO. |
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Post by Been burned too many times on Jan 17, 2013 12:24:30 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, is there a video game where you can win a cage match by walking out the door? In Smackdown vs. Raw 2006 you can hit a superplex and then play a sort of mini game where your character crawls towards the door while your opponent tries to stop you. If you win you will escape through the door. |
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Jan 17, 2013 16:02:53 GMT -5
TNA has two versions of Cage match rules, the main one doesn't have escape as a win condition (see Abyss vs AJ for an extreme example) and the Escape/Xscape rules which are either just leave the cage, or be one of the last two survivors, THEN leave the cage
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 17, 2013 16:46:53 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, is there a video game where you can win a cage match by walking out the door? Whatever the last Smackdown vs. Raw and WWE 12 both have it. Not sure about 13. 13 does as well |
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