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Post by Red Impact on Feb 3, 2013 16:07:07 GMT -5
By the way, how did the public get the voicemail messages? Te'o gave them to the person who interviewed him (Couric?) when he did his interview weeks after the fact, meaning there's really no evidence that they weren't forged. Anyways, I don't think Ronnay's voice is as bad as some people, but the way they've tried to prove that Te'o wasn't involved has still been really unconvincing. Former government officials, said there is a 99% of that NOT being his voice. Note that they are FORMER Why would that matter?
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 3, 2013 16:13:27 GMT -5
By the way, how did the public get the voicemail messages? Te'o gave them to the person who interviewed him (Couric?) when he did his interview weeks after the fact, meaning there's really no evidence that they weren't forged. Anyways, I don't think Ronnay's voice is as bad as some people, but the way they've tried to prove that Te'o wasn't involved has still been really unconvincing. Note that they are FORMER Why would that matter? [/quote] I've always wondered why they are FORMER. Most people working for the government don't leave unless they have been forced out. I just almost always dismiss someone who we don't know that says that they are FORMER government workers.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 3, 2013 16:18:00 GMT -5
People leave government jobs all the time. There's a mandatory retirement age for some and some find it more profitable to be in the private sector (which isn't uncommon), the fact that they're former doesn't mean that they didn't have the skills.
The real question should be "Former what?" Because having worked for the government doesn't make someone an expert voice analyst.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 3, 2013 16:24:20 GMT -5
People leave government jobs all the time. There's a mandatory retirement age for some and some find it more profitable to be in the private sector (which isn't uncommon), the fact that they're former doesn't mean that they didn't have the skills. The real question should be "Former what?" Because having worked for the government doesn't make someone an expert voice analyst. That also, but like I said................MOST people don't leave the government on their own free will. Yes, people leave government jobs all the time, but more often than not, they have a particular reason for their services being no longer required. I say why I wouldnt listen to them because I don't know why they are a former and honestly without getting political, there are certain former government officials that I wouldn't listen to for the life of me about doing the job they got released from. The former what is also a good argument because like it or not, just because they are a former government official doesnt mean they know what the hell they are talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 16:57:02 GMT -5
I know they said the hoaxster auditioned for The Voice, but I had no idea he tried out for American Idol as well.
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Post by Orange on Feb 3, 2013 17:14:00 GMT -5
Te'o gave them to the person who interviewed him (Couric?) when he did his interview weeks after the fact, meaning there's really no evidence that they weren't forged. Anyways, I don't think Ronnay's voice is as bad as some people, but the way they've tried to prove that Te'o wasn't involved has still been really unconvincing. Note that they are FORMER Why would that matter? I've always wondered why they are FORMER. Most people working for the government don't leave unless they have been forced out. I just almost always dismiss someone who we don't know that says that they are FORMER government workers. [/quote] Be honest, Seth, if they were current Government officials you'd still have something against their opinion.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 3, 2013 17:19:34 GMT -5
I've always wondered why they are FORMER. Most people working for the government don't leave unless they have been forced out. I just almost always dismiss someone who we don't know that says that they are FORMER government workers. Be honest, Seth, if they were current Government officials you'd still have something against their opinion.[/quote] I also don't see how getting fired/forced to quit makes someone untrustworthy. And I can tell you there ARE quite a few government employees who quit.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 3, 2013 17:20:39 GMT -5
Government jobs being lost are either due to budget cuts or people leaving to find better/different things. Not very common to lose one due to poor performance unless you're ridiculously terrible. Either way, their current employment status is pretty irrelevant to this discussion unless their job was in the Department of Bulls*** Detection or something.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 17:23:32 GMT -5
Government jobs being lost are either due to budget cuts or people leaving to find better/different things. Either way, their current employment status is pretty irrelevant to this discussion unless their job was in the Department of Bulls*** Detection or something. Pretty much. Living in DC I can say for certain that people leave government jobs all the time. I can't believe that this story is ongoing, I'll wait until closer to the draft when the NFL teams unleash their private investigators on Te'o to see what the real story is. At best he is a complete dumbass at this point.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 3, 2013 17:25:06 GMT -5
I've always wondered why they are FORMER. Most people working for the government don't leave unless they have been forced out. I just almost always dismiss someone who we don't know that says that they are FORMER government workers. Be honest, Seth, if they were current Government officials you'd still have something against their opinion. I also don't see how getting fired/forced to quit makes someone untrustworthy. And I can tell you there ARE quite a few government employees who quit.[/quote] I dont know what they got fired for if they did. Oh and I do know that there are government employees who quit, which if you pay attention, is why I said most. And current workers...............not as much as former. But only thing I would have problem with is the same thing I also have problems with in this case, the whole anonymity crap.
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Post by sryans on Feb 3, 2013 20:05:33 GMT -5
Be honest, Seth, if they were current Government officials you'd still have something against their opinion. I also don't see how getting fired/forced to quit makes someone untrustworthy. And I can tell you there ARE quite a few government employees who quit. I dont know what they got fired for if they did. Oh and I do know that there are government employees who quit, which if you pay attention, is why I said most. And current workers...............not as much as former. But only thing I would have problem with is the same thing I also have problems with in this case, the whole anonymity crap. [/quote] Dude, you are really grasping for straws here.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 4, 2013 0:54:29 GMT -5
I also don't see how getting fired/forced to quit makes someone untrustworthy. And I can tell you there ARE quite a few government employees who quit. I dont know what they got fired for if they did. Oh and I do know that there are government employees who quit, which if you pay attention, is why I said most. And current workers...............not as much as former. But only thing I would have problem with is the same thing I also have problems with in this case, the whole anonymity crap. Dude, you are really grasping for straws here.[/quote] And yet I feel the same way with everyone else who keeps trying to insinuate things when most of the evidence points to this being a hoax.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 4, 2013 1:14:42 GMT -5
The evidence that it's a hoax is basically the people involved, who have been caught in other lies and could have quite a bit to lose, insisting that it's a hoax. Everything else? It really just points to it being a bad coverup.
Proving it isn't a cover up would have been easy if they were that interested in doing so, but rather than, say, show the actual phone records, they show an excel sheet with dates and pass off a few phone messages. It's stuff that's easy to fabricate in an afternoon, and they have waited weeks to hand it over.
There's just not a lot of credibility to go on here, they seem to be making every move to undermine their own point. So it just comes down to whether you believe the football player and the person claiming to be a con-man or you don't.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 4, 2013 1:22:50 GMT -5
Honestly who even cares anymore? He lied, the only sticking point is when and to what extent. At the end of the day no one was hurt, and Manti is a lying jackass regardless of whether he started the whole thing, or lied about it after the fact.
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