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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 2:48:39 GMT -5
In my lifetime as a wrestling fan (going on 30 years...holy crap), nothing will top... "The Big Gold Belt" defecting to the WWF.Not necessarily Ric Flair, just seeing Bobby Heenan with THAT BELT on WWF TV was such a strange sight and (unless you recorded it) you were very unsure if it was even real until the next show. It was as if you were floating around in a really fuzzy state for the two days before Prime Time Monday night, thinking "That was a mirage. That couldn't have been real. Bobby Heenan mentioned Ric Flair on WWF TV and he was holding the actual World title belt!" (My friends, that is what kayfabe brought to the table.) . Strange that they would refer to the NWA in the video's title. After Flair beat Sting in Jan. 1991, WCW began calling the "big gold belt" the WCW World Championship (which it was since WCW, not the NWA, owned the belt). Flair was technically still the NWA champion, but the belt was exclusively referred to as the WCW World title during Flair's entire 1991 title reign. |
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Jan 20, 2013 3:31:51 GMT -5
The belt was the NWA belt, which Flair considered to be his since he wasn't going to receive the deposit that he had paid when he won the title.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 20, 2013 4:07:58 GMT -5
In my lifetime as a wrestling fan (going on 30 years...holy crap), nothing will top... "The Big Gold Belt" defecting to the WWF.Not necessarily Ric Flair, just seeing Bobby Heenan with THAT BELT on WWF TV was such a strange sight and (unless you recorded it) you were very unsure if it was even real until the next show. It was as if you were floating around in a really fuzzy state for the two days before Prime Time Monday night, thinking "That was a mirage. That couldn't have been real. Bobby Heenan mentioned Ric Flair on WWF TV and he was holding the actual World title belt!" (My friends, that is what kayfabe brought to the table.) . This made Hall and Nash debuting on Nitro look like child's play. Look at how Monsoon and Neidhart sell the shock of the reveal. Look at Heenan selling his no-nonsense demeanor. Vince's WWF promoted itself as the ONLY league of professional wrestling and Hulk Hogan as its' champion was what they considered the elite of this ultimate world. The WWE Universe before it became a corporate-fueled buzz word. Now that universe was being infiltrated by a wrestler many considered to be the best in the world. The WWF was never the same after that (and I mean that in a good way). THIS should be number 1. Seeing that made me depressed about Wrestlemania 8. i never bought the house show attendance reasoning. Hogan/Flair was obviously the better main event than Hogan/Sid. As much as I loved Flair/Savage (in my all time top five) that could've happened at another ppv. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 8:27:19 GMT -5
The one I remember was Heenan in front of a plain background holding the belt just off-camera and telling us about a wrestler from "another organization" was making plans to come into the WWF.
That's where he coined the infamous phrase, 'Comparing this belt to the WWF title is like comparing ice cream to horse manure. Comparing the man who holds this title to the current WWF champion is like comparing ice cream to horse manure."
Be ready for the man coming in...Ric. Flair.
EDIT: Wow, I posted that without even seeing the posted video. The background was still different and the Brain was all alone on the spot I remember. But it was almost the exact same speech.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Jan 20, 2013 10:25:25 GMT -5
The solo Heenan promo was from Superstars. The clip I posted was from Wrestling Challenge. I always preferred the version from Wrestling Challenge.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 12:22:19 GMT -5
The belt was the NWA belt, which Flair considered to be his since he wasn't going to receive the deposit that he had paid when he won the title. It was the NWA title belt through the end of 1990. In December 1990, WCW dropped everything "NWA" and began calling it the WCW World title exclusively. The belt was always owned by WCW/Jim Crockett Promotions, which is why it ended up back in WCW's possession after Flair got his money. |
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Jan 20, 2013 16:20:47 GMT -5
Well it would make sense that they didnt want to promote the WCW name at the time.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Jan 20, 2013 17:21:16 GMT -5
Either the NWA or WCW sued the WWF after Flair's debut, right? Which was the reason why the belt was being blurred on TV (plus it was additional heel heat for Flair).
When did Crockett start using the Big Gold Belt?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 22:57:46 GMT -5
Well it would make sense that they didnt want to promote the WCW name at the time. I was talking about how WWE used "NWA World title" in the title of that YouTube video that was posted. They could have just said "WCW World title", and it would have been accurate since the big gold belt was the WCW World title when Flair had it in 1991. Either the NWA or WCW sued the WWF after Flair's debut, right? Which was the reason why the belt was being blurred on TV (plus it was additional heel heat for Flair). When did Crockett start using the Big Gold Belt? 1986 is when Crockett started using it. Flair was almost exclusive to JCP by that point, and World Class had just left the NWA. WCW did take legal action to get the belt back, but the reason for the blurring was because Flair had returned the belt to WCW. For the first few weeks, they still had footage to show of Flair with the real belt, so it did get blurred a few times. After that, Flair started carrying a knockoff version. In his book, there's a picture of him facing Bret Hart in Nov. 1991, and the fake belt is sitting in the corner. Then at Survivor Series, he clearly was holding one of the WWF tag team title belts. |
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jan 20, 2013 23:03:01 GMT -5
Really the giant? For weeks all my friends at school could talk about was how Razor Ramone and Diesel had invaded wcw.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jan 21, 2013 0:10:52 GMT -5
Nobody else read that title as "Most Stunng Defecations"?
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Post by JCBaggee on Jan 21, 2013 19:58:36 GMT -5
Wasn't Luger debuting on WCW live television at the exact same time he was in a match on WWF taped television? That should absolutely be #1.
Of course, lets' face facts, Big Show's just #1 because he's still employed and on air with the 'E.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 20:15:57 GMT -5
Once again, there is no order to the list. In no way do they say Show's debut was more stunning than anything else on the list or vice versa.
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Post by Brother-RD on Jan 21, 2013 21:54:37 GMT -5
Nobody else read that title as "Most Stunng Defecations"? And sadly, they have enough footage between 1999-2006 to fill a top 10 list for THAT, too. |
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