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Post by johnnytightlips on Jan 23, 2013 16:13:46 GMT -5
As far as the midcard, its really a simple fix. They need to have guys chase the IC & US titles with the same ferocity/passion as the two world titles are. Establish those two belts, & suddenly half the roster has something to do. Same go's for the tag belts/division. Been saying this for a long time as well.
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Post by babyfootball on Jan 23, 2013 17:04:12 GMT -5
Actually, they only have one. And that's Cena. Just behind him there's Punk, the rest are just upper midcarders. They just have too little starpower. You're right. They have only one megastar in Cena But the problem is that they're just pushing way too many people up to World Title level in general, and it's harming the rest of the roster and the other championships as a result. Like I said, there are too many people that just "have" to be on the shows every week, and it's created a very obvious "Us" and "Them" in regards to who gets showcased. I think it's a combination of both. There aren't any "mega"stars outside of Cena in WWE on a regular basis these days. Punk is a level below, then a bunch of guys are a level behind him. Why aren't any of the rest of them at a higher level? Because there are so many of them. I'm sure a few of them have the talent to be "that" guy, but because WWE doesn't like to commit anymore, they've convinced themselves that none of these guys really have what it takes, so they're constantly rotating guys looking for the next "one." They're there, but they're spread so thin that it results in nobody standing out. It's not because the talent is/isn't there, it's the booking. The same thing (sorta) they were doing in the mid-90s (Bret and Shawn were their Cena and Punk in a lot of ways).
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jan 23, 2013 17:42:14 GMT -5
The titles don't mean enough so they can't make stars as effectively as in the past. I say strip it back down to a main event title for the cream of the crop (WWE), an upper midcard title to test and groom main event talent or else feature undeniable talent that lacks the total package (Intercontinental), and a Tag Team title. Fewer titles mean more value which leads to more effective starpower because the holder has a more special spotlight.
There were more wrestlers on the WWE roster in the past - not fewer - when there were fewer titles and that's because the booking was generally better. The WWE used to have Number One Contender matches at many PPVs and I believe they should return because they are effectively as good as having a second title. Number One Contender matches means twice the number of feuds for the same title, which only serves to sell each title as an even bigger deal. It also creates two different ways to start or continue angles and feuds, which means that there is always the potential for three more matches per PPV that started with either a title match or a #1 contender match. If this relatively simplistic model was used - three title matches, three #1 contender matches, and three matches related to the former two - you could occupy at least 24 wrestlers on any given PPV and that's assuming basic 1-on-1 contests (2-on-2 for tag matches).
Finally, fewer hours of programming. More specifically, fewer hours of programming that matter. NXT (1hr) and Saturday Morning Slam (1hr) don't matter. Raw (3hrs), Main Event (1hr), and Smackdown (2hrs) all matter. Personally, I say scrap Smackdown and use Main Event as both what it is currently used but more importantly as a further outlet to get talent over without necessarily involving the titles. Think of it as a half-hour spotlight on specific talent a week.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2013 17:51:42 GMT -5
Actually, they only have one. And that's Cena. Just behind him there's Punk, the rest are just upper midcarders. They just have too little starpower. I have to agree. They do have a lot of people they can put in programs in the main event, but they haven't really gotten behind any one except Cena and Punk as "the guy" type guy.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 23, 2013 17:59:06 GMT -5
The titles don't mean enough so they can't make stars as effectively as in the past. I say strip it back down to a main event title for the cream of the crop (WWE), an upper midcard title to test and groom main event talent or else feature undeniable talent that lacks the total package (Intercontinental), and a Tag Team title. Fewer titles mean more value which leads to more effective starpower because the holder has a more special spotlight. There were more wrestlers on the WWE roster in the past - not fewer - when there were fewer titles and that's because the booking was generally better. The WWE used to have Number One Contender matches at many PPVs and I believe they should return because they are effectively as good as having a second title. Number One Contender matches means twice the number of feuds for the same title, which only serves to sell each title as an even bigger deal. It also creates two different ways to start or continue angles and feuds, which means that there is always the potential for three more matches per PPV that started with either a title match or a #1 contender match. If this relatively simplistic model was used - three title matches, three #1 contender matches, and three matches related to the former two - you could occupy at least 24 wrestlers on any given PPV and that's assuming basic 1-on-1 contests (2-on-2 for tag matches). Finally, fewer hours of programming. More specifically, fewer hours of programming that matter. NXT (1hr) and Saturday Morning Slam (1hr) don't matter. Raw (3hrs), Main Event (1hr), and Smackdown (2hrs) all matter. Personally, I say scrap Smackdown and use Main Event as both what it is currently used but more importantly as a further outlet to get talent over without necessarily involving the titles. Think of it as a half-hour spotlight on specific talent a week. I agree that there should be one major title, but I also think they need to add in a lower midcard title for the Zack Ryders, Heath Slaters, and Derrick Batemans to fight over and a possible gimmick belt (Hardcore, Cruiserweight, X-Division type of deal). I think the hours of programming they have are fine, but there needs to be more variety. A lot of the bigger stars are all over the shows, when there are more than enough hours of programming to showcase EVERYONE. I don't mind Saturday Morning Slam. I think that if WWE had a dedicated kids' show, then their other shows have leeway to be edgier.
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