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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2013 4:15:47 GMT -5
Skip to about 5:50. Interesting that they have/had a beef, anyone know any details? I heard once that Undertaker was pissed at Brock for climbing to the top of the cage after their Hell in a Cell match, but that's about it. I wonder if they have sorted things out since this video is from 2011.
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Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Jan 23, 2013 4:45:19 GMT -5
There's loads of stories. Another being that Taker worked his ass off to put Brock over and saw Brock's leaving as a slap in the face to everyone who'd invested time and effort into Brock.
Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the clip, and the confrontation at UFC that preceeded it, weren't just the both of them planting little seeds just in case a 'mania showdown were ever to have happened.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 23, 2013 7:37:52 GMT -5
As much as I respect Taker, he seems to find very petty reasons to get angry. You're angry because someone climbed on top of a cage? Really?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 23, 2013 7:52:46 GMT -5
As much as I respect Taker, he seems to find very petty reasons to get angry. You're angry because someone climbed on top of a cage? Really? ...if it's true.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 23, 2013 7:59:33 GMT -5
As much as I respect Taker, he seems to find very petty reasons to get angry. You're angry because someone climbed on top of a cage? Really? This... if the stories about him are true, he comes across as a bit of a grumpy asshole at times. Like the newz about him and Punk.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 23, 2013 8:40:39 GMT -5
As much as I respect Taker, he seems to find very petty reasons to get angry. You're angry because someone climbed on top of a cage? Really? This... if the stories about him are true, he comes across as a bit of a grumpy asshole at times. Like the newz about him and Punk. Wasn't that overblown and only the first half of it reportes? I remember reading what everybody did in that 'Taker told Punk to start dressing a little smarter, now that he was the champ, and Punk countered that Cena never did and, thus, HEAT. Not long after, I remember reading that it wasn't 'Taker going at Punk because he was a vet and was protecting the business, but it was just a conversation between the two that was never anything less than cordial.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Jan 23, 2013 9:16:52 GMT -5
Another reason I heard that Brock was supposed to face deadman Taker in 2004 after he returned at Mania and was supposed to finally go over Brock. Never happened cuz of Brock leaving. Thus we got that lopsided Booker T feud instead.
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Post by Error on Jan 23, 2013 11:25:52 GMT -5
Another reason I heard that Brock was supposed to face deadman Taker in 2004 after he returned at Mania and was supposed to finally go over Brock. Never happened cuz of Brock leaving. Thus we got that lopsided Booker T feud instead. Yeah, that's what heard. That after all Taker did and all WWE did to appease Brock, he left shortly after being told he was going to feud with Taker and lose the feud.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 23, 2013 11:29:34 GMT -5
Wasn't there a report about Brock possibly returning on WWE after an article on WWE.Com either late 2004 or 2005? For a Wrestlemania match? Or am I making it up
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2013 16:41:39 GMT -5
As much as I respect Taker, he seems to find very petty reasons to get angry. You're angry because someone climbed on top of a cage? Really? I get it. You've just had this brutal f***ing match, instead of climbing up the cage to play to the crowd, sell it.
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Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Jan 23, 2013 16:42:54 GMT -5
As much as I respect Taker, he seems to find very petty reasons to get angry. You're angry because someone climbed on top of a cage? Really? ...if it's true. WOOOAHHH don't be bringing the truth into it. We're gettin angry here.
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Post by Corporate H on Jan 23, 2013 16:49:01 GMT -5
Wasn't there a report about Brock possibly returning on WWE after an article on WWE.Com either late 2004 or 2005? For a Wrestlemania match? Or am I making it up Yeah, I believe it was after his NFL plans were dashed, pre-UFC.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 23, 2013 16:51:05 GMT -5
WOOOAHHH don't be bringing the truth into it. We're gettin angry here. You're right, sorry. UNDERTAKER'S A TOTAL ASSHOLE
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 23, 2013 17:31:13 GMT -5
I wasn't at all angry, but okay.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 23, 2013 17:44:02 GMT -5
Brock leaving apparently pissed a lot of people off so it might have a big thing to do with why Taker doesn't like him. It might not even be anything more than that it might just be that Brock on up and leaving just rubbed Taker the wrong way.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 23, 2013 18:38:51 GMT -5
I wasn't at all angry, but okay. I know you weren't, I wasn't targeting you per se, it's just so many backstage stories seem to just be taken as definitely true when we have no proof for basically any of them.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Jan 24, 2013 8:26:38 GMT -5
Wasn't there a report about Brock possibly returning on WWE after an article on WWE.Com either late 2004 or 2005? For a Wrestlemania match? Or am I making it up Yeah, I believe it was after his NFL plans were dashed, pre-UFC. It was also rumoured that this was the reason for the mass clear out of talent in 2005.
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Post by sportatorium on Jan 24, 2013 16:38:13 GMT -5
'Taker is pretty old school. He doesn't like to break character/kayfabe, although the hug at the end of Mania got pretty close last year. I think he would take any chance to work people (fans), and Brock would get on board as it fits his persona.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 24, 2013 16:45:19 GMT -5
'Taker is pretty old school. He doesn't like to break character/kayfabe, although the hug at the end of Mania got pretty close last year. I think he would take any chance to work people (fans), and Brock would get on board as it fits his persona. Basically. People have often said that he likes to keep up the Undertaker character, and he rarely deviates from it. So with the cameras on him, he'd probably be perfectly willing to play up whatever tensions were there, assuming they are at all. Not uncommon in wrestling. Mick Foley says Vince is the same way, for one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 17:01:42 GMT -5
'Taker is pretty old school. He doesn't like to break character/kayfabe, although the hug at the end of Mania got pretty close last year. I think he would take any chance to work people (fans), and Brock would get on board as it fits his persona. Basically. People have often said that he likes to keep up the Undertaker character, and he rarely deviates from it. So with the cameras on him, he'd probably be perfectly willing to play up whatever tensions were there, assuming they are at all. Not uncommon in wrestling. Mick Foley says Vince is the same way, for one. As much as we nitpick every little damn thing, I think the wrestlers are the biggest marks in wrestling. Even in wins and losses. Which is probably how it should be. If they weren't, things would fall apart over time. Most of the carny esque hazing stuff should go, but the general "IN THIS BUSINESS" tradition is overall good for wrestling I think. We can know everything we're going to know regarding the ins and outs of wrestling, but having wrestlers like Taker continue to be someone we look at with a little bit of awe is great. If I could see Taker out and about and see him, approach and say "Won't bug you for long, big fan of all that you've done" and have him respond like an ordinary guy and say "Thanks! blah blah blah" something is just permanently lost. I'd rather kayfabe be preserved even though I know better. When it comes to that big match, I'll enjoy it a little bit more because of it.
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