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Post by Brickstone Kid on Jan 24, 2013 2:13:19 GMT -5
Really hoping he feuds with the Usos like we were promised.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 24, 2013 2:27:49 GMT -5
lol@Brock vs Daniel Bryan. It's going to be awhile before people take Bryan seriously. I dont see why that is funny. Bryan is one of the best wrestlers in the world and if they wanted him to be taken seriously, theres more than enough ways of booking him in a match w/ Lesnar to be competitive. I love the shouts of Bryan vs Brock. There was a thread on here recently that had "Your Wrestlemania Card" and that was exactly the match I had picked for Brock. It could be amazing. You could also book it so Brock wins, but Bryan is made really strong. Bret vs Austin at WM 13 immediately springs to mind in a typical vein, minus the size difference obviously. Another match in a similar vein is the classic 123 Kid vs Bret title match on Raw. This sort of match is exactly the type of match that would get me to care about Brock. I am firmly in the camp of not wanting to see him against Trips again nor would I want to see him against Orton.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 24, 2013 3:24:47 GMT -5
To make this right, all they need to do is have Brock's last big feud be long, drawn-out, and really well done, with someone who needs a big match to really push them to the top. Bryan's my vote, and I think it does make a lot of sense, but anyone not Trips, Orton, Punk, or Cena would do. Basically, something to take the investment and giving him short runs of killing people dead, and make a new star out of it. That's how any special attraction like this should be booked in the end. Feuding with Orton sounds like it would be really not that good.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 24, 2013 8:48:16 GMT -5
I said this already once, but I want to see Brock enter the Rumble, go on a killing streak and then get eliminated by a plucky babyface who shouldn't have a chance. Then Brock blindsides them and murders them at ringside (think Orton/Foley 2004) and it leads to a big PPV match in which the babyface manages to just win (think Guerrero). I'd mark.
Plus, Brock actually has heat.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 24, 2013 8:50:30 GMT -5
It amazes me how much people are against special attraction wrestlers (usually the same people that complain how they're sick of Cena/Sheamus/Punk getting too much tv time).
You don't want to see Brock Lesnar every week. His entire appeal is how scary he is and how much he can wreck shit, but once he cuts a promo all of that goes away ("piss").
Hell, I even like HHH a lot more in these short doses we get him.
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Post by sybaku on Jan 24, 2013 9:02:39 GMT -5
lol@Brock vs Daniel Bryan. It's going to be awhile before people take Bryan seriously. I dont see why that is funny. Bryan is one of the best wrestlers in the world and if they wanted him to be taken seriously, theres more than enough ways of booking him in a match w/ Lesnar to be competitive. I love the shouts of Bryan vs Brock. There was a thread on here recently that had "Your Wrestlemania Card" and that was exactly the match I had picked for Brock. It could be amazing. You could also book it so Brock wins, but Bryan is made really strong. Bret vs Austin at WM 13 immediately springs to mind in a typical vein, minus the size difference obviously. Another match in a similar vein is the classic 123 Kid vs Bret title match on Raw. This sort of match is exactly the type of match that would get me to care about Brock. I am firmly in the camp of not wanting to see him against Trips again nor would I want to see him against Orton. I love Bryan, my favorite wrestler right now for sure, but against Brock he'll look like nothing. Brock isn't a meathead like Ryback or the Rock he's every bit as skillful in wrestling and submissions as Bryan, but he's got 300 pounds on him, I know MMA has broken the size matters stigma but when it's a skilled dude versus a skilled bigger dude, he is gonna win? (Sorry if the godawful grammar is annoying, I type like I talk) I just cannot see a scenario where Bryan looks like a threat, maybe..... Maybe if he had a stable with him and it was a street fight, but still it'd be a stretch seeing them match up, I've seen both live in person, and Bryan would look like Brocks mini me, it'd be like Hornswoggle against Sheamus
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 9:07:43 GMT -5
Just because you didn't care about the matches, doesn't mean that's the case with everyone. You have nothing to back up your statement but the fact that you think Lesnar/HHH was a big match and that it brought in 50k buyrates because that's what it was up from the year before. That's not actual evidence. It's just a wild assumption. Hardly a wild one. The semi-main was for all intents and purposes the ME from the prior year with Big Show thrown in, just because. At the same time, though, almost every PPV improved from 2011. The addition of Brock Lesnar alone proves nothing. Personally, I don't think keeping him around another year's a bad idea, but they need to get more results out of him than they have so far. If he doesn't pay off in a bigger way through 2013 I'd cut him.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jan 24, 2013 9:22:33 GMT -5
I just rewatched Brock\Cena. Any questions I might have had about Brock being worth the money were answered. Been a fan for a long time...but I've never seen a match like that.
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Post by Banecat on Jan 24, 2013 9:42:10 GMT -5
Why can't I? It was a year to year increase and there was nothing on this card. I don't think people were paying to see ADR/Sheamus 14 or the 3 way with Show put in to do the job. There is a lot of other factors involved, like 2012's slight economic recovery. Pro Wrestling took a hit just like everything else did in 2008.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 24, 2013 10:25:09 GMT -5
I dont see why that is funny. Bryan is one of the best wrestlers in the world and if they wanted him to be taken seriously, theres more than enough ways of booking him in a match w/ Lesnar to be competitive. I love the shouts of Bryan vs Brock. There was a thread on here recently that had "Your Wrestlemania Card" and that was exactly the match I had picked for Brock. It could be amazing. You could also book it so Brock wins, but Bryan is made really strong. Bret vs Austin at WM 13 immediately springs to mind in a typical vein, minus the size difference obviously. Another match in a similar vein is the classic 123 Kid vs Bret title match on Raw. This sort of match is exactly the type of match that would get me to care about Brock. I am firmly in the camp of not wanting to see him against Trips again nor would I want to see him against Orton. I love Bryan, my favorite wrestler right now for sure, but against Brock he'll look like nothing. Brock isn't a meathead like Ryback or the Rock he's every bit as skillful in wrestling and submissions as Bryan, but he's got 300 pounds on him, I know MMA has broken the size matters stigma but when it's a skilled dude versus a skilled bigger dude, he is gonna win? (Sorry if the godawful grammar is annoying, I type like I talk) I just cannot see a scenario where Bryan looks like a threat, maybe..... Maybe if he had a stable with him and it was a street fight, but still it'd be a stretch seeing them match up, I've seen both live in person, and Bryan would look like Brocks mini me, it'd be like Hornswoggle against Sheamus I present to you the at that time skinny (compared to now) Daniel Bryan vs Batista www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3hyWF6Y0twBatista is billed at 6ft6 330lb Brock Lesnar is billed at 6ft3 266lb
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 24, 2013 10:32:10 GMT -5
I dont see why that is funny. Bryan is one of the best wrestlers in the world and if they wanted him to be taken seriously, theres more than enough ways of booking him in a match w/ Lesnar to be competitive. I love the shouts of Bryan vs Brock. There was a thread on here recently that had "Your Wrestlemania Card" and that was exactly the match I had picked for Brock. It could be amazing. You could also book it so Brock wins, but Bryan is made really strong. Bret vs Austin at WM 13 immediately springs to mind in a typical vein, minus the size difference obviously. Another match in a similar vein is the classic 123 Kid vs Bret title match on Raw. This sort of match is exactly the type of match that would get me to care about Brock. I am firmly in the camp of not wanting to see him against Trips again nor would I want to see him against Orton. I love Bryan, my favorite wrestler right now for sure, but against Brock he'll look like nothing. Brock isn't a meathead like Ryback or the Rock he's every bit as skillful in wrestling and submissions as Bryan, but he's got 300 pounds on him, I know MMA has broken the size matters stigma but when it's a skilled dude versus a skilled bigger dude, he is gonna win? (Sorry if the godawful grammar is annoying, I type like I talk) I just cannot see a scenario where Bryan looks like a threat, maybe..... Maybe if he had a stable with him and it was a street fight, but still it'd be a stretch seeing them match up, I've seen both live in person, and Bryan would look like Brocks mini me, it'd be like Hornswoggle against Sheamus Its wrestling. Not a shoot fight. 123-Kid vs Razor Mysterio against virtually everyone. Hell, that little dweeb lasted 60+ minutes in the Rumble. This is the one "sport" where size can be overcome because wrestling has the ability to get viewers to suspend disbelief. Does anyone believe Mysterio could take Batista or Big Show in a shoot fight? No. But theres ways to make it a very viable contest in a pro wrestling match, even with the abominable Brock Lesnar.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 24, 2013 10:33:21 GMT -5
I'd think you meant 330 lbs for Batista there, man.
But I agree, the size difference between Bryan and Lesnar has been greatly exaggerated. They do gaps bigger than 4 inches and 55 pounds in matches every week... If there's anyone who could make something like that great, it's Bryan and Lesnar.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 24, 2013 10:44:50 GMT -5
I'd think you meant 330 lbs for Batista there, man. But I agree, the size difference between Bryan and Lesnar has been greatly exaggerated. They do gaps bigger than 4 inches and 55 pounds in matches every week... If there's anyone who could make something like that great, it's Bryan and Lesnar. I knew something wasn't right when i typed it in, damn wikipedia. Cheers Imagine these moves being done by Bryan. Especially the curb stomps to the face (that I think Lesnar is crazy enough to agree to take), MMA elbows, Traingle Hold, Springboard plancha. I can imagine all of them being done on Brock, especially in a NODQ/Street Fight. Also the Brock Lock, F5 etc all being sold to death (see vs Batista video) by Bryan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 11:04:35 GMT -5
Sounds like the money being flushed down the toilet to me.
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Post by CM Parish on Jan 24, 2013 12:28:28 GMT -5
I bought Extreme Rules and Summerslam for Brock Lesnar.
Doubt i'm the only one. I'm a huge mark for him.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 24, 2013 12:38:53 GMT -5
I bought Extreme Rules and Summerslam for Brock Lesnar. Doubt i'm the only one. I'm a huge mark for him. I highly doubt you're the only one. Brock is a huge draw and there's no question about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 13:17:43 GMT -5
I bought Extreme Rules and Summerslam for Brock Lesnar. Doubt i'm the only one. I'm a huge mark for him. I know of a few dozen old-fans who paid to see Brock pulverize Cena at Extreme Rules, and I paid for those PPVs to see Lesnar, so yeah, Brock's still a major PPV draw. If he only appears in 2 or 3 matches a year then it makes them matter a ton. Hell, I'm willing to bet we get a Punk face turn post-Rumble/Elimination Chamber when he realises "wait, Paul, you got Shield and Brad Maddox on side...you're the reason I got no respect!" (which they've been hinting at for months anyway) and face off against Lesnar at 'Mania.
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Post by bigmackdaddy on Jan 24, 2013 16:54:19 GMT -5
Brock should have a domestic abuse gimmick. He only fights divas.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 17:23:02 GMT -5
Brock should have a domestic abuse gimmick. He only fights divas.
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Post by gnr123 on Jan 24, 2013 19:31:00 GMT -5
I bought Extreme Rules and Summerslam for Brock Lesnar. Doubt i'm the only one. I'm a huge mark for him. I'm also a huge mark for him. It's sucks though that his heart doesn't seem to be into professional wrestling anymore, because 2012 could have been a hell of a year for him. I see the appeal for Lesnar in WWE, he's basically a human wrecking machine who loves to wreck s***. And I love wrestlers like that. Sure, his mic work could be alot better, but he's not known for his mic work. He's known for being a (and I'll use his own words) "asskicker." As for the news story goes. I don't buy into it. And I don't like it at all. Either do Lesnar/Taker or nothing. Lesnar/Taker writes itself, they have a history, and it'll be different from the "I respect you but I'll going to kill you" at WM storyline. They should just have Lesnar outright say he doesn't respect Taker and (unlike Shawn and Triple H) he won't hold anything back. He has nothing to lose, and he has nothing else to prove. The Streak will make him the biggest name in wrestling history and he's do whatever he takes to win. Even if that means beating Taker to a pulp. And Taker never beat Lesnar in his rookie year. Now, Lesnar has years of experience both in the professional wrestling world and MMA world. He's a legit MMA fighter and former UFC Champion. He's not only going to beat Taker, he's going to break him. He broke Triple H's arm twice without remorse, he broke Shawn Michaels arm without remorse. Brock Lesnar doesn't care about anybody else but Brock Lesnar. Undertaker is frail old man, a shell of his former self but he somehow always find a way to pull through at Wrestlemana. How in the hell will he beat a former WWE and UFC Champion who shows no remorse for anybody. Not to mention Taker never beat Lesnar, so Lesnar knows how to beat Taker. I mean, come on. It f***in' writes itself. It's the only match that I feel is worthy of a Streak match besides Taker/Cena, which should be done ideally at WM 30. Nobody wants to see Triple H/Lensar two. Taker and Punk have no chemistry. Who the hell wants to see Lesnar vs. Orton? The only match I can see happening is Lesnar/Punk, and that's only because of Paul Heyman's involvement with both men. But seriously, who's going to think there's a possibility of Punk beating Brock freakin' Lesnar? Even in kayfabe, Punk doesn't stand a chance. And to someone who said have Lesnar in the Rumble, that'll be awesome. Just imagine. Number 30, clock ticks down. 3...2...1 buzzer. Lesnar music hits. Crowd goes crazy.
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