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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 24, 2013 7:28:13 GMT -5
What's wrong with SSF4AE? I've read nothing but good reviews of the game. I even played it a bit and enjoyed it for what it was (I prefer SF3 b/c I think the parry system is the best thing Capcom put into a fighting game since it developed vanilla SF2).
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Post by Wolfaga on Jan 24, 2013 8:09:06 GMT -5
SSFIVAE was fine for what it was
Megaman trolling was very very crude and immoral of Capcom to do so, but I am not a Megaman fan to be that mad over.
DmC is a really good game and I don't know why it's on the list to begin with.
Operation Raccoon City was a bigger insult to the franchise than Resident Evil 6
12 on disc DLC characters takes the cake, you should have what is on the disc in the first place, not suck more money like leaches.
SFXT is a good game, among some other screw ups (like the Rolento Freeze and the Gem System)
3DS data not being erased is so so so so stupid.
ending DLC is too stupid, but other games have done this too (Final Fantasy XIII-2, I am looking at you)
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 was fine on it's own
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 24, 2013 8:48:20 GMT -5
DmC is a really good game and I don't know why it's on the list to begin with. I think the reason it rubs fans the wrong way is that rebooting the franchise was completely unnecessary. The previous game was good, it sold well, the characters were still very popular and there was still ground to show more of the game's universe, so there was really no reason to start over. Add to this the fact that Dante was an extremely popular character and looked unique and was replaced with a rather generic J-pop pseudo-thug and it becomes clearer why people weren't too hot for this. It's taking away a character and universe people loved and wanted more of, all for the sake of a reboot nobody asked for and considering Capcom's recent track record, a lot of people took it as them once again disregarding their audience's opinion. And apparently, the gameplay hasn't changed much so yeah... really no reason to make it a reboot. It's basically the same thing as George Lucas introducing SW fans to midi-chlorians. It may not be very important, but it's an unnecessary change that really adds nothing and completely alienates the fanbase.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 24, 2013 9:00:45 GMT -5
what's the Asura's Wrath ending DLC story? did they at least make it free like Bioware did with ME3?
I voted for the 12 on-disc DLC characters. blatant cash grab and it was basically selling half a game for the price of a full one. DLC should add to the experience, it shouldn't be used to finish an unfinished product.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jan 24, 2013 9:05:02 GMT -5
The save data nonsense as that is the only one that really truly effects a game and the player. The other stuff is annoying and/or shifty, but they aren't directly messing up the product.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 9:25:23 GMT -5
...I actually enjoyed RE6. It's fun as a co-op game. The massive Day One DLC though is inexcusable.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 24, 2013 11:57:05 GMT -5
Making too many versions of each Street Fighter
Instead of just releasing "Street Fighter 2010....2011.....2012 etc..." they always have to add some sort of dumb subtitle like "Street Fighter IV......then.....Super Street Fighter IV.....then......Ultra Super Street Fighter IV: Championship Edition.....then Ultra Mega Super Street Fighter IV: Elite Championship Edition"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 11:59:09 GMT -5
Making too many versions of each Street Fighter Instead of just releasing "Street Fighter 2010....2011.....2012 etc..." they always have to add some sort of dumb subtitle like "Street Fighter IV......then.....Super Street Fighter IV.....then......Ultra Super Street Fighter IV: Championship Edition.....then Ultra Mega Super Street Fighter IV: Elite Championship Edition" This is why playing Street Fighter as a kid was essentially impossible. Because first you have to make sure they have the right title, and then there's four or five versions of each title, which leads to everyone having a completely different SF and nobody to play with.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 24, 2013 11:59:28 GMT -5
Not making a Gargoyles Quest game in forever.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 24, 2013 13:18:43 GMT -5
what's the Asura's Wrath ending DLC story? did they at least make it free like Bioware did with ME3? I voted for the 12 on-disc DLC characters. blatant cash grab and it was basically selling half a game for the price of a full one. DLC should add to the experience, it shouldn't be used to finish an unfinished product. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.........no. Capcom priced the "true ending" DLC at $7.
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Post by skulldouggory on Jan 24, 2013 13:32:20 GMT -5
I just bought SxT for $25, i put off buying it all year, because i was more anxiously awaiting Tekken x Street Fighter.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 24, 2013 13:41:22 GMT -5
What's wrong with SSF4AE? I've read nothing but good reviews of the game. I even played it a bit and enjoyed it for what it was (I prefer SF3 b/c I think the parry system is the best thing Capcom put into a fighting game since it developed vanilla SF2). SSF4AE's original release pretty much destroyed the balance of the game. The new characters were extremely good. Too good. And the changes made to existing characters just completely lopsided competition. Fortunately, there was a free update released fairly soon afterwards called AE2012. It made the AE characters sane and also rebalanced the entire game. Now the game's pretty balanced again. That's the biggest thing the SF4 games have going for it: a big roster that somehow manages to have almost every character be competitively viable. It's probably the most balanced fighter since Super Turbo, if not moreso. The original AE briefly ruined that.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jan 24, 2013 13:57:36 GMT -5
I would say 12 on disc DLC characters for SFxT, or Megaman trolling. The DLC on SFxT is the one I think tipped the bucket for most people. I'm not really that big of a Megaman fan so having legends 3 canned was not that big of a deal, but seeing how they are just pouring salt on the worm is just nonsense.
I just have the feeling that soon Capcom is going to do something REALLY dumb and the fan's are not going to have it. Capcom is the perfect example how NOT to do DLC.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Jan 24, 2013 14:38:05 GMT -5
This thread depresses me. Capcom has always been my favorite development company for as long as I can remember, they're responsible for the majority of my favorite franchises ever. Then over the last decade, they've done nothing but troll and mistreat their fanbase. They still make great games, at least most of the time, but they've become a joke as a business. It depresses me because, as much as I want to outright hate and boycott them until they get their shit together, I just can't. It's like a love/hate relationship with Capcom. DmC is a really good game and I don't know why it's on the list to begin with. I think the reason it rubs fans the wrong way is that rebooting the franchise was completely unnecessary. The previous game was good, it sold well, the characters were still very popular and there was still ground to show more of the game's universe, so there was really no reason to start over. Add to this the fact that Dante was an extremely popular character and looked unique and was replaced with a rather generic J-pop pseudo-thug and it becomes clearer why people weren't too hot for this. It's taking away a character and universe people loved and wanted more of, all for the sake of a reboot nobody asked for and considering Capcom's recent track record, a lot of people took it as them once again disregarding their audience's opinion. And apparently, the gameplay hasn't changed much so yeah... really no reason to make it a reboot. It's basically the same thing as George Lucas introducing SW fans to midi-chlorians. It may not be very important, but it's an unnecessary change that really adds nothing and completely alienates the fanbase. I haven't played DmC myself, but I've watched some walkthrough videos and it looks like a great game...but not one worthy of the Devil May Cry name. And it's not really even about the new Dante's look, it's the way Capcom has responded back to the criticism. Instead of saying something like "We understand your feelings about the reboot, but unfortunately, we want to try something a little different", they response reeks of "Yeah, well, we don't care what you think, we're doing it our way. Dante will look like Tameem Antoniades because he wants to live out that fantasy". Then on top of that, they troll the fanbase by having a scene around the beginning of the game where new Dante looks at his reflection and sees himself with the long white hair from the popular Dante and sarcastically says something like "Not in a million years". Adding salt to the wounds. Again, it looks like a great game by itself, and would have been better received if it didn't have any traces of Devil May Cry in it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 15:23:45 GMT -5
What's even funnier about PS3 owners only getting fat, boxart Megaman is that it's since been confirmed he is on the 360 discs...just locked. Hackers and modders just haven't figured out how to unlock his data yet on the disc, or if it's even possible. Which I imagine it is. It wouldn't surprise me at all if eventually Capcom ran a "DLC" of him for the 360, or some special event to allow gamers to get him. Hackers and Modders already figures out to unlock the data. Go to youtube, there a shit load of video of people playing him and pac man on the 360. And No, Crapcom already say that 360 well never get him or pac-man since their only for ps3 users. So basically, you can add f***ing over SFxT 360 users to the list (Not getting megaman/pacman or online local co-op)
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 24, 2013 15:29:54 GMT -5
I didn't think DMC 4 was that good at all, they forced us to play as this whiny new character and then we got to play the same levels again backwards as that smug git Dante. Oh and totally gratuitous crotch shot - you know the one I mean.
I'm voting for RE6, it makes 5 look good - and that was bloody awful.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 24, 2013 15:34:14 GMT -5
DmC's gameplay is like a watered down version of the original series. I mean, it's functional, but it's not great. It's also ridiculously easy to get high grades, which feels like it cheapens the whole scoring system. The boss fights are also a huge step down from previous games. They look like they got more in common with God of War, Darksiders, or even Zelda than Devil May Cry.
Though this is sort of Ninja Theory's design philosophy: create lesser, though still adequate, copycats of better games. Heavenly Sword was essentially Weeaboo God of War. Kung Fu Chaos was a borderline racist Super Smash Bros. Enslaved was probably the most original game they've made from a design perspective.
I really don't get why Ninja Theory is held in such high regard in the industry and among some gamers. I've never been impressed by anything they've done.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Jan 24, 2013 16:57:56 GMT -5
I'm going with this. I got Dragon's Dogma late last year, and still play the f*** out of it. I was really looking forward to this DLC, but real talk? They can suck my dick. No way am I throwing out another £40 for a game I paid £15 just so I can play the DLC. Especially seeing as I'd probably have to start again and earn all my achievements again! This company is seriously just dick! I know people talk about EA and Activision being asses and greedy, but they're freaking perfect compared to these money grubbing fan trolling ass munches! Now, now I feel better. I needed that.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 24, 2013 17:19:08 GMT -5
DmC's gameplay is like a watered down version of the original series. I mean, it's functional, but it's not great. It's also ridiculously easy to get high grades, which feels like it cheapens the whole scoring system. The boss fights are also a huge step down from previous games. They look like they got more in common with God of War, Darksiders, or even Zelda than Devil May Cry. Though this is sort of Ninja Theory's design philosophy: create lesser, though still adequate, copycats of better games. Heavenly Sword was essentially Weeaboo God of War. Kung Fu Chaos was a borderline racist Super Smash Bros. Enslaved was probably the most original game they've made from a design perspective. I really don't get why Ninja Theory is held in such high regard in the industry and among some gamers. I've never been impressed by anything they've done. I think the reason Ninja Theory is held in such high regard is a two fold thing: 1) They released one of the few good PS3 games in the pre-2009 wasteland that was the PS3's library. And I'm not talking just PS3 exclusives. I mean all encompassing, multiplatform releases included. Looking back at Heavenly Sword it is still competent, yeah, but it isn't anywhere near as good as I thought it was in 07. Then again, at the time I was desperate for good PS3 games. 2) They are the best third party hack 'n slash developers in the West. It is sad, but true. Hell they are one of the few in the West period. All the good hack 'n slash action game makers are in Japan, or Sony's Santa Monica studio. That being said I've played the DmC demo and yeah it is a watered down DMC experience combat wise and at least in the demo it felt like they tried too hard to make this game "cool". Made even worse when I played the Metal Gear Rising demo shortly afterwards. Now MGR is f***ing cool, nay, AWESOME and it doesn't try as hard as DmC.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 24, 2013 17:55:15 GMT -5
I'm going with this. I got Dragon's Dogma late last year, and still play the f*** out of it. I was really looking forward to this DLC, but real talk? They can suck my dick. No way am I throwing out another £40 for a game I paid £15 just so I can play the DLC. Especially seeing as I'd probably have to start again and earn all my achievements again! This company is seriously just dick! I know people talk about EA and Activision being asses and greedy, but they're freaking perfect compared to these money grubbing fan trolling ass munches! Now, now I feel better. I needed that. I was actually going to ask if they were trying to overthrow EA as most hated gaming company. Capcom: increasing The Pirate Bay's population, one dick move at a time.
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