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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 24, 2013 15:40:59 GMT -5
This. Scrap the World Heavyweight Title. Let the Intercontinental Title be the #2 belt, and have Cesaro replace the U.S. Title with the European Title. They'd be more likely to drop a midcard belt and keep the WHC. Its still a 'bigger title'. And they can still have guys like Orton go after it without it seeing like a step down. It'd be a lot harder to 'Elevate' the IC belt, when they already have a belt that although isn't at big as the WWE title, is still big enough to hold its own roster. But for a guy like Orton who has actually held the big boy belt, it IS a step down. There's nothing wrong with having a "stepping stone" title, but it shouldn't be called a "world title". The IC Title can be elevated with quality contenders. They already have Wade Barrett as a champion. Have him feud with someone like Miz or Bryan, and the IC Title will be seen as a big deal. It wouldn't make sense to have one midcard title and two World Titles. |
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Post by Cronant on Jan 24, 2013 15:48:50 GMT -5
You made my point.
The only reason to suggest using the IC belt over the WHC is being anal about the WHC being called a "World Title". In reality thats what WWE wants because even if its importance has diminished since HHH had it its still perceived as higher than the IC belt ever will.
And for the sake of house shows, its much easier to use the WHC on the 2nd house show group than it would be to try to market the IC belt as the top belt for that group. The second option would be a pretty big change in philosophy on every show, the first is already what they do now.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 24, 2013 15:53:58 GMT -5
Well, we got what we wanted. Now we just need a New Nation and we'll have to come up with new demands. Here's just some of the things the past week people on the board been asking for: Bring back the Attitude Era. Rename the company WWF. The Divas must be Shimmer alumni. Merge the world titles. Cancel Smackdown. So as long as people have free will and internet access, they will have demands. Personally I feel killing the brand split will open Pandora's Box and will cause more problems than it will fix. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 24, 2013 15:54:35 GMT -5
You made my point. The only reason to suggest using the IC belt over the WHC is being anal about the WHC being called a "World Title". In reality thats what WWE wants because even if its importance has diminished since HHH had it its still perceived as higher than the IC belt ever will. And for the sake of house shows, its much easier to use the WHC on the 2nd house show group than it would be to try to market the IC belt as the top belt for that group. The second option would be a pretty big change in philosophy on every show, the first is already what they do now. Or for the house shows, they could simply use John Cena for the shows that the WWE Champion isn't on. And imo as long as the IC Title is almost always on someone the casuals think is a big deal (i.e. Barrett, Miz, etc.) or on someone who is getting pushed hard, I don't really see a problem. |
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Post by Cronant on Jan 24, 2013 15:57:06 GMT -5
You made my point. The only reason to suggest using the IC belt over the WHC is being anal about the WHC being called a "World Title". In reality thats what WWE wants because even if its importance has diminished since HHH had it its still perceived as higher than the IC belt ever will. And for the sake of house shows, its much easier to use the WHC on the 2nd house show group than it would be to try to market the IC belt as the top belt for that group. The second option would be a pretty big change in philosophy on every show, the first is already what they do now. Or for the house shows, they could simply use John Cena for the shows that the WWE Champion isn't on. Because they need to depend on John Cena more than they already do. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 24, 2013 15:58:22 GMT -5
Or for the house shows, they could simply use John Cena for the shows that the WWE Champion isn't on. Because they need to depend on John Cena more than they already do. Well I don't mean having him all over the show. The main event could be John Cena vs. Johnny Curtis and people will pay just because the little kids want to see John Cena busting out the Five Moves of Doom regardless of who his opponent is. |
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Post by Cronant on Jan 24, 2013 16:00:16 GMT -5
Except Cena will eventually be back in the WWE title scene.
All I'm saying is unofficial split or not, with their current system 2 World Titles is just way more convenient for them. Even for Smackdown TV they don't need Punk or Cena showing up every week.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 24, 2013 16:08:36 GMT -5
Except Cena will eventually be back in the WWE title scene. All I'm saying is unofficial split or not, with their current system 2 World Titles is just way more convenient for them. Even for Smackdown TV they don't need Punk or Cena showing up every week. They just need to do a better job of building up their midcard talent and getting guys into positions to take over the Cena/Punk/Orton/Sheamus spots of main eventing. I'm not sure if ending the brand split officially will help that or not, but giving guys like Kofi and 3MB actual feuds that aren't just "we're having matches just because". Make them mean something. |
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Post by kamero00 on Jan 24, 2013 16:16:29 GMT -5
This does not mean the top WWE talents will be working Tuesday's.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 24, 2013 16:22:13 GMT -5
I think they should continue the brand split. Stop having Smackdown guys appear on Raw, stop having Raw guys appear on Smackdown. Build up the talent they already have, create interesting and exciting storylines, and actually focus on some wrestling for once instead of long drawn out promos and recaps.
A lot of their problems could be fixed if A) They were consistent with their mid-card, B) developed a solid tag team division, C) allowed new stars to be built up and allowed to shine in the process.
I've always believed that Smackdown should be where guys like Ziggler, Del Rio, Bryan, Sandow, a possible returning Morrison, and Orton should be featured whereas Raw would be where the larger than life attractions are.
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Post by TGM on Jan 24, 2013 16:57:59 GMT -5
I think they got it backwards. House shows should have always had the entire roster and tv should have been kept separate.
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Post by Digital Witness on Jan 24, 2013 18:30:43 GMT -5
I'm thinking that if they end the brand split, then what they may wind up doing is giving NXT the two hour Friday night Smackdown! spot, and then having all the lower card guys that don't get tv time or minimal tv time mix with the NXT roster. That way, more of the roster is maximized. Then on friday nights, the NXT roster has a chance to get recognized, and if a spot opens up on Raw, where they can make an impact, they'll move.
I could see them keeping both world titles for each tour circuit along with the U.S. and IC titles for each circuit. That way, each circuit has a world title and midcard title match. Maybe have the tag titles on one circuit and the diva's title on the other?
I think some cuts would be made to trim the fat on both Raw and NXT that that were the case.
Overall, I think it would make for a more competitive roster and the talent that were proven to not be all that motivated as Daniel Bryan talked about in the past would find themselves on the outs while the hungrier NXT level guys would have a better shot to rise up the ranks.
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