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Post by Hanz Moleman on Jan 29, 2013 10:53:31 GMT -5
I've been meaning to make this thread for awhile. but I was wondering if you fine folks could enlighten me to when the WWE wrestling style really started. There was a Tensai thread maybe a week back, and someone mentioned that WWE asked him to not use some of his bigger power moves from Japan, and this just got me thinking. Are there some moves, that no matter how safe the person is, truly are just too much to take? Tensai is unfortunately for those guys who would benefit from a slightly extended moveset.
Also, are the Japan feds just like "hey, go ahead and take all these moves on the neck, you'll be fine." From what Giant Bernard matches I have seen, some of the stuff looks absolutely brutal, but then again, that is the fine art of selling, right?
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 29, 2013 10:58:12 GMT -5
Re: Japan, A lot of it is selling, but a lot of it is genuinely unsafe, especially over time. I mean, Misawa.
I dunno, when I hear "WWE style" I don't think of their safety standards, I think of the so-called "main-event style" which is kick-punchy with the big beats carried by familiar moves. The Rock is thought of as the ultimate user of that style, though I personally think Taker had a lot to do with it, too.
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Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Jan 29, 2013 11:11:25 GMT -5
Clearly there are moves that the WWE do not want used due to safety concerns, which I think is fair enough.
Wrestling a "WWE Style" is more to do with slowing everything down for the TV audience, making sure you face the hard camera where possible during submission and rest holds, and basically projecting emotion etc X10 so that the huge crowds/TV audience get the benefit of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 11:59:43 GMT -5
I look at "WWE Style" as "Wrestling on TV". You emphasize slower moves to adjust to a pace and emphasize facial expressions and emotion. Technical ability doesn't necissarily have to be compromised.
It's when you get the hectic part leading to the finish that is devolves into the Punch-Kick-Punch/Finisher combo that is more associated with the style.
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Post by greatmuta on Jan 29, 2013 12:03:01 GMT -5
The current style started after Kidman injured Chavo on a SSP around 2004 and they switched to a safer style. I loved the style before admittedly it did have a lot of moves that attacked the neck. They also did a lot more hardcore and weapons stuff up to then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 12:11:33 GMT -5
There seemed to be a real shift in the mid 2000's and then it only escalated after the Benoit tragedy. I, honestly, don't really notice the difference until I have to think about it.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 29, 2013 12:19:09 GMT -5
I look at "WWE Style" as "Wrestling on TV". You emphasize slower moves to adjust to a pace and emphasize facial expressions and emotion. Technical ability doesn't necissarily have to be compromised. It's when you get the hectic part leading to the finish that is devolves into the Punch-Kick-Punch/Finisher combo that is more associated with the style. Not only "wrestling on tv," but also "Wrestling 300+ nights a year and on TV." That's the big one for me, they tour all the time, so they have that many more chances on long, tiring road trips to screw things up. So certain spots and things are just going to take a back seat for the safety of the wrestlers, especially after all the deaths and injuries that they've had.
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