The Dangerous Alliance (2013)

[Legion]

So, Heyman is still Lesnar's manager, and he appears to still be linked to Punk.

What if, post Elimination Chamber, with them clearly looking at doing something with Lesnar and with Vince involved, they have HHHunter and Lesnar doing something, have Punk come out to help Lesnar and take him down. A Raw ends with the heels standing tall, with Heyman.

Next week HHHunter hypes getting help, everyone assumes HBK, but then -BONG- Undertaker comes to help.

At WM, we get a tag match with HHHunter and 'Taker vs Heyman's Dangerous Alliance of Lesnar and Punk.

It gives Undertaker less of a match to prepare for, will likely get H his win back, means Lesnar can take it fairly easy and sets up the potential for Punk/'Taker at WM30 the following year, which is likely (imo) to be 'Taker's last stand, so to speak.

Thoughts?

[comahan]

I like the idea until Punk/Taker @ WM30. Not because I think it would be bad or anything, but because if Taker is going to have one final match, at the 30th WM, John Cena just seems like the perfect opponent. Cena/Taker at Mania, in Taker's last match would be HUGE. There would be a ton of people who'd think Cena would win, and that would make it even more amazing.

But yea, id totally dig HHH/Taker vs. Punk/Lesnar, though that seems more like a SummerSlam match than a WrestleMania match.

[Legion]

I suspect you are right with the Cena thing, and it would be such a huge match.

And yes, a tag team thing does seem more Summerslam, but I was just thinking of the conditioning of three of the four in the match, but WWE likely wanting all of them at WM.

Throw them in to a tag protects everyone and lets Punk be the proper work horse, with the others able to hit their spots and have their moments, but without killing themselves on a long solo match, especially with them likely being two singles matches otherwise.

[Madagascar Fred]

no way HHH & Taker are gonna share the spotlight at WM

HHH will beat Brock

Taker will beat Punk

Heyman will disappear

accept it

[horsemen4ever]

I don't know, I think Punk and Lesner's egos will eventully make Heyman choose. It is best to keep them seperate.

[Legion]

Put them together first, and you get the fun of having a break up match, possibly to help boost Backlash........

[543Y2J]

I'd rather have an alliance and partnership between Heyman, Lesnar, Punk and Shield past this Mania and into the next wrestling year.

Have them have singles matches at Mania (except Shield), then a tag match at SSlam Punk and Brock vs Cena and HHH, a SUPER Survivor Series Elimination Match Heyman Punk, Lesnar, Shield vs WWE Cena, Rock, Taker, HHH Kane and Daniel Bryan. Then you start building the tension between Punk and Lesnar, Shield disband all around TLC/Rumble time leading to 30.

Then get Punk vs Brock, Cena vs Taker, Rock vs Daniel Bryan, Ryback vs Kane vs Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins vs Dean Ambrose at WM30. Ultimate slow build, get the partnership (dangerous alliance stable v2, two man power trip v2 included sub stables) and then get the Lesnar vs Punk feud, everybody wins.

Really focusing on Heyman's regime vs WWE. Have Ohno, Neville, Steen (I hope he gets hired) Generico join the team during the year (having different personalities in the group) keeping it fresh.

[Hiryu]

Not going to lie, this stable oozes pure awesome.

They remind me of video game bosses somehow.

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Jan 29, 2013 13:51:52 GMT -5 543Y2J said:

I'd rather have an alliance and partnership between Heyman, Lesnar, Punk and Shield past this Mania and into the next wrestling year.

Have them have singles matches at Mania (except Shield), then a tag match at SSlam Punk and Brock vs Cena and HHH, a SUPER Survivor Series Elimination Match Heyman Punk, Lesnar, Shield vs WWE Cena, Rock, Taker, HHH Kane and Daniel Bryan. Then you start building the tension between Punk and Lesnar, Shield disband all around TLC/Rumble time leading to 30.

Then get Punk vs Brock, Cena vs Taker, Rock vs Daniel Bryan, Ryback vs Kane vs Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins vs Dean Ambrose at WM30. Ultimate slow build, get the partnership (dangerous alliance stable v2, two man power trip v2 included sub stables) and then get the Lesnar vs Punk feud, everybody wins.

Really focusing on Heyman's regime vs WWE. Have Ohno, Neville, Steen (I hope he gets hired) Generico join the team during the year (having different personalities in the group) keeping it fresh.

That would be ridiculously awesome. I'd love to have them make this storyline that involved and long lasting. They're certainly off to a good start with how they're handling things so far, cutting off loose ends (Maddox), and managing to keep things surprising (Lesnar's return). That would be a legitimately powerful stable, too, which we haven't had in awhile.

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I have no interest in Punk/Undertaker or Brock/HHH separately but 'Taker & Trips vs. Brock and Punk is amazing on so many levels.

- The dissention on both sides would make for a great dynamic in the build to the match and then on the night itself. They've already had HHH tap out to Brock and question whether he "still has it" so now Taker could see him as the weak link of the team and worry that he might lose the match (and therefore Taker's streak) for them. And a Brock/Punk blow up is inevitable, probably ultimately costing them to lose the match, then they can set up a feud between them post 'Mania. I have no idea who could be the babyface there though.

- It continues the 5 year Wrestlemania story arc that began with HBK/Flair at Wrestlemania 24. HBK himself will probably be involved somehow (to counteract Shield interferince?) since Brock did break his arm last summer too.

- If it's true that Undertaker is really banged up (and also that he's reluctant to work a singles match with Brock due to how physical/reckless he is in the ring) then a tag match makes sense to get him through this year then he can finish up properly next year at Wrestlemania 30.

- The match itself is almost guaranteed to be great. And I think this would be a rare occasion were over-booking and run-ins and no DQ stipulations could work in a positive way and have the crowd on the edge of their seat thinking the streak could actually end.

I'm going to be so disappointed now if we just end up with the two singles matches.

[Legion]

Yeah, the suggestion of them doing this, when they then dont, is going to disappoint me as well

[Crappler El 0 M]

I don't see WWE using that specific branding (Dangerous Alliance) for Paul Heyman's guys. It would be easy to create a new Dangerous Alliance with Punk, Lesnar, and the Shield. Just because it is easy to create doesn't mean they should or will do it.

[salsashark]

Jan 29, 2013 15:23:45 GMT -5 @hhhdiedforoursins said:

I have no interest in Punk/Undertaker or Brock/HHH separately but 'Taker & Trips vs. Brock and Punk is amazing on so many levels.

- The dissention on both sides would make for a great dynamic in the build to the match and then on the night itself. They've already had HHH tap out to Brock and question whether he "still has it" so now Taker could see him as the weak link of the team and worry that he might lose the match (and therefore Taker's streak) for them. And a Brock/Punk blow up is inevitable, probably ultimately costing them to lose the match, then they can set up a feud between them post 'Mania. I have no idea who could be the babyface there though.

- It continues the 5 year Wrestlemania story arc that began with HBK/Flair at Wrestlemania 24. HBK himself will probably be involved somehow (to counteract Shield interferince?) since Brock did break his arm last summer too.

- If it's true that Undertaker is really banged up (and also that he's reluctant to work a singles match with Brock due to how physical/reckless he is in the ring) then a tag match makes sense to get him through this year then he can finish up properly next year at Wrestlemania 30.

- The match itself is almost guaranteed to be great. And I think this would be a rare occasion were over-booking and run-ins and no DQ stipulations could work in a positive way and have the crowd on the edge of their seat thinking the streak could actually end.

I'm going to be so disappointed now if we just end up with the two singles matches.

Brilliant response to a brilliant idea. This idea must happen.

You guys have alluded to it a bit before, but I'd also emphasize that this freshens up the Taker Streak storyline which, while always interesting, isn't as intriguing as it could be. This year, instead of having a man try to break your streak, he is trying to help you keep it.

The only thing I'm not sold on is Punk/Taker for the year later. I remember their matches being really disappointing before.

[543Y2J]

I keep on forgetting Heyman managed Show as well, which all ties in perfectly with Shield, Ryback, Cena, Sheamus. So in theory (not saying it will happen) we could have

Heyman
Brock, Punk, Show
Ambrose, Rollins, Reigns
(Ohno, Neville, Generico)

As a super stable to end all stables. I am really building my own hopes up here...