Dshuks
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Post by Dshuks on Jan 29, 2013 16:45:38 GMT -5
For some reason or another WWE keeps on trying to push Tamina in the dominant heel role of the Divas Division. Problem is Tamina is a total snooze-fest in the role. She doesn't emote she just stares with a blank expression. Her strikes don't look very impact full, and her move-set is really bland. She's just a really dull wrestler. If she really wants to get good n this role she should consider watching some of Jazz's old matches. Jazz was awesome in the dominant heel role she emoted really well making it seem like she wanted to completely destroy whoever she was facing. Her strikes were great, and she also had a really good and impressive move-set. I mean just compare this squash match Jazz had with Molly to , Tamina's matches against the likes of AJ and Alicia. www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGRCzQ3hlQEHonestly I think someone like Kaitlyn would do a better job in the dominant heel role. I really wouldn't be too upset if Tamina was released.
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Post by dlg3000 on Jan 29, 2013 16:48:07 GMT -5
Jazz was awesome. Tamina is quite dull but I will give her a chance. Is she still a little green?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 16:49:15 GMT -5
I agree they should do a new storyline with...wait are there any other heels?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 29, 2013 16:50:55 GMT -5
I would extend that to Tamina is horrible. Period.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 29, 2013 16:51:55 GMT -5
I would say that this problem is one for a bunch of the FCW grads. Even guys like Miz had this issue.
Emoting in the ring, characterizing yourself through your actions.
You are absolutely right. Tamina really needs to up the ante with the emoting. I think she should watch some of Roman Reign's current stuff, or Leo Kruger.
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Post by Cela on Jan 29, 2013 16:55:05 GMT -5
Keeps on trying? She lost her title match a while back, disappeared, came back as the AJ nemesis for a week, then disappeared, and now is the latest push thing.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jan 29, 2013 16:55:47 GMT -5
I think she is a perfectly average performer. I just think the wwe is not in need of a dominant heel diva right now. I mean Kaitlyn has a big girl herself so it's not like they can book tamina to be a monster against her when they are more or less equal size. They did try to put some heat on her by having her attack AJ at Survivor series, but it did not go over well and I expect that will be her last big diva's push. I don't see much of a role for her in the future since she is pretty low on the totem pole of divas.
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Post by Dshuks on Jan 29, 2013 17:16:23 GMT -5
Jazz was awesome. Tamina is quite dull but I will give her a chance. Is she still a little green? She's been wrestling for almost 4 years now , Jazz had about the same amount of experience when she first started with the wwe/wwf and she was much better by that point. Tamina is also already 35 so she doesn't really have much of a shelf life left. Tamina was a horrible pick for Kaitlyn's first feud as champ, as they should be trying to make Kaitlyn look as good as possible in the ring , a friendly face vs face feud with Layla or Natalya would have been much better.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 29, 2013 17:17:11 GMT -5
I agree they should do a new storyline with...wait are there any other heels? Aksana... Rosa... AJ... Alicia depending on the week... and Layla's probably turning soon if the backstage skit from last week is anything to go by.
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Post by Dat Dude on Jan 29, 2013 17:27:46 GMT -5
She works better as a face where there isn't as much pressure honestly. Still too green to carry a match (there are times she's looks lost out there trying to think about would to do next). If they wanted a truly dominating heel they should either let Natayla do it or call up Del Rey. Otherwise none of the women on the roster have the physically, presence or the strength to pull it off like Jazz, Kharma, Beth or even Victoria did.
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Post by Dshuks on Jan 29, 2013 17:33:33 GMT -5
She works better as a face where there isn't as much pressure honestly. Still too green to carry a match (there are times she's looks lost out there trying to think about would to do next). If they wanted a truly dominating heel they should either let Natayla do it or call up Del Rey. Otherwise none of the women on the roster have the physically, presence or the strength to pull it off like Jazz, Kharma, Beth or even Victoria did. I think Paige definitely could pull off the dominant heel role, and like I said earlier Kaitlyn would do it better than Tamina too imo. Her moves at least look pretty impactfull.
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Post by PKO on Jan 29, 2013 17:47:37 GMT -5
I think Tamina is generally a pretty decent wrestler, but she doesn't suit doing the slow, methodical monster schtick. Her facial expressions are very good, but far too subtle for wrestling.
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Post by YiHammer on Jan 29, 2013 20:34:02 GMT -5
Anyone saying Tamina sucks didn't watch her match vs Beth
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Post by Dshuks on Jan 29, 2013 21:25:09 GMT -5
Anyone saying Tamina sucks didn't watch her match vs Beth Lot's of people have had solid matches with Beth. She's a pretty decent carrier. She's gotten decent matches out of Kelly Kelly. That match with Beth was one of the few times Tamina has been entertaining to me though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 21:27:08 GMT -5
tamina is horrible in any role
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 29, 2013 23:20:24 GMT -5
Anyone saying Tamina sucks didn't watch her match vs Beth Watched it. It was forgettable and kinda sloppy on both parts.
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Post by Dat Dude on Jan 29, 2013 23:25:35 GMT -5
She works better as a face where there isn't as much pressure honestly. Still too green to carry a match (there are times she's looks lost out there trying to think about would to do next). If they wanted a truly dominating heel they should either let Natayla do it or call up Del Rey. Otherwise none of the women on the roster have the physically, presence or the strength to pull it off like Jazz, Kharma, Beth or even Victoria did. I think Paige definitely could pull off the dominant heel role, and like I said earlier Kaitlyn would do it better than Tamina too imo. Her moves at least look pretty impactfull. Paige?...Naw. I've seen her heel work on the indies, she has more of bratty princess persona and style. Kaityln I've only seen her wrestle heel once, and considering how heels are responsible for dictating the flow of the match and her experience level, I think babyface is a better fit for her now.
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Post by Dshuks on Jan 30, 2013 0:50:31 GMT -5
I think Paige definitely could pull off the dominant heel role, and like I said earlier Kaitlyn would do it better than Tamina too imo. Her moves at least look pretty impactfull. Paige?...Naw. I've seen her heel work on the indies, she has more of bratty princess persona and style. Kaityln I've only seen her wrestle heel once, and considering how heels are responsible for dictating the flow of the match and her experience level, I think babyface is a better fit for her now. Imo this match disagrees with you I think Paige can pull the dominant heel style pretty well she actually shows intensity in her matches.
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Post by HR on Jan 30, 2013 0:51:43 GMT -5
Tamina spends so much time just standing still or walking around. If you're having a three minute match you actually have to get on with it.
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Post by Dat Dude on Jan 30, 2013 1:34:22 GMT -5
Paige?...Naw. I've seen her heel work on the indies, she has more of bratty princess persona and style. Kaityln I've only seen her wrestle heel once, and considering how heels are responsible for dictating the flow of the match and her experience level, I think babyface is a better fit for her now. Imo this match disagrees with you I think Paige can pull the dominant heel style pretty well she actually shows intensity in her matches. Paige may have dominated in offense in the match, but the dominance that you were referencing with Jazz requires a lot more than that. I would categorize that as being an aggressive brawler (like Ivory or Melina). Jazz, Beth, and others were monsters who used their superior strength to do a lot of high impact moves, tossing around opponents of all sizes like rag-dolls. And as strong as Paige is, I've never seen her throw around women the size of Natayla or Tamina (which is what she would need to do if she were to fill such a role). You also gotta factor in the physical presence needed to give an aura of intimidation like Beth, Jazz, Kharma, etc. had. They had a lot muscle mass and/or a lot of height . I've seen Brittani Knight, Beth Phoenix and Sara Del Rey in person; Knight was nowhere near as big as those two. The only person I"ve seen pull that off without the physical presence/strength is her mother Saraya. But thats a result of her kicking the crap out of audience members and pulling other stunts that are outrageous and unpredictable. Things that Paige would never be allowed to do in WWE. Plus, it doesn't play to her strengths as a performer. She's great at being a charismatic loud mouth heel, and putting her in role that requires her to be a monster like Jazz eliminates those traits.
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