Who's the top 10 of all time+Current?

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Keyfabe wise.

[Hit Girl]

None of the current full-time roster would be in top 10 of all time IMO

[Deleted]

Don't like Cena, but I'd put him in my top ten. Bo as well.

[Hit Girl]

I apologise

I forgot about BO!!!!

[Spider2024]

By kayfabe, I'm factoring in power, as in who they can beat. So because this is WWE, strong and big guys get a little boost.

All Time
1. Hulk Hogan
2. Steve Austin
3. Undertaker
4. John Cena
5. Bruno Sammartino
6. Andre The Giant
7. The Rock
8. Triple H
9. Bret Hart
10. Shawn Michaels

Current
1. John Cena
2. Sheamus
3. Randy Orton
4. Big Show
5. CM Punk
6. Kane
7. Ryback
8. Alberto Del Rio
9. Dolph Ziggler
10. Daniel Bryan

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In WWE's kayfabe history:

1. Bruno Sammartino
2. Hulk Hogan
3. Stone Cold Steve Austin
4. The Rock (wins over Hogan, Austin and Cena all at Wrestlemania)
5. Andre the Giant
6. John Cena
7. The Undertaker
8. Triple H
9. Bob Backlund
10. The Ultimate Warrior (didn't have much longevity but literally NO ONE was ever able to defeat him cleanly)

Current:

1. The Rock
2. John Cena
3. The Undertaker
4. Brock Lesnar
5. Triple H
6. CM Punk
7. Big Show
8. Sheamus
9. Ryback
10. Randy Orton

[Deleted]

Kayfabe history, as in looking at their kayfabe accomplishments, or as in how WWE would rank its own top 10? Because if it's how WWE would do it, it would probably go:

1. The Rock
2. The Undertaker
3. John Cena
4. HHH
5. Stone Cold Steve Austin
6. Andre the Giant
7. Shawn Michaels
8. Ric Flair
9. Bret Hart
10. CM Punk

and that list just made me throw up in my mouth a little, I think.

[mcstoklasa]

Jan 30, 2013 13:09:27 GMT -5 Spider2024 said:

By kayfabe, I'm factoring in power, as in who they can beat. So because this is WWE, strong and big guys get a little boost.

All Time
1. Hulk Hogan
2. Steve Austin
3. Undertaker
4. John Cena
5. Bruno Sammartino
6. Andre The Giant
7. The Rock
8. Triple H
9. Bret Hart
10. Shawn Michaels

Remember that Rock has beaten Hogan, Austin and Cena clean as a whistle at Mania. Perhaps he should be higher. Then again, Austin beat Rock so many times i would still rank him higher than Rock. Austin also achieved clean wins over Taker which was a rarity.

I also wouldn't know where to put Andre on the list. I almost think he should be number 1, but then the Hulkster beat him and numerous, well tons of others so maybe he should be number 1.

[cool guy]

I think if we're talking kayfabe toughness Brock Lesnar absolutely deserves a place in the discussion.

Oh, and Goldberg.

[Crappler El 0 M]

It would probably be something like this:

1. Bruno Sammartino
2. Bob Backlund
3. Andre the Giant
4. Hulk Hogan
5. Ultimate Warrior
6. The Undertaker
7. Shawn Michaels
8. Steve Austin
9. Cena
10. CM Punk

Hard to judge and rank based on 'kayfabe' but these guys either had long title reigns and didn't lose much. You could also include Goldberg (didn't lose much) or Lesnar (didn't lose much). The biggest drawback for The Rock is that he lost a lot of big matches, though this is true of Cena too, but Cena has had a longer period of being a top guy.

[Spider2024]

Jan 30, 2013 13:20:09 GMT -5 mcstoklasa said:

Jan 30, 2013 13:09:27 GMT -5 Spider2024 said:

By kayfabe, I'm factoring in power, as in who they can beat. So because this is WWE, strong and big guys get a little boost.

All Time
1. Hulk Hogan
2. Steve Austin
3. Undertaker
4. John Cena
5. Bruno Sammartino
6. Andre The Giant
7. The Rock
8. Triple H
9. Bret Hart
10. Shawn Michaels

Remember that Rock has beaten Hogan, Austin and Cena clean as a whistle at Mania. Perhaps he should be higher. Then again, Austin beat Rock so many times i would still rank him higher than Rock. Austin also achieved clean wins over Taker which was a rarity.

I also wouldn't know where to put Andre on the list. I almost think he should be number 1, but then the Hulkster beat him and numerous, well tons of others so maybe he should be number 1.

That's true about Rock, which is why it was tough to rank him. He's a little low because he was the clear #2 in his era, and he did his fair share of jobbing in the main even scene.

As for Andre, he was tough too because he went from unstoppable to JTTS, and his JTTS period is more famous because he didn't do much of note before 1987.

[Allie Kitsune]

1. Bo Dallas
2. Bo Dallas
3. Triple H
4. Bo Dallas
5. Bo Dallas
6. Bo Dallas
7. Bo Dallas
8. Bo Dallas
9. Bo Dallas
10. Bo Dallas

[Crappler El 0 M]

As for Andre, he was tough too because he went from unstoppable to JTTS, and his JTTS period is more famous because he didn't do much of note before 1987.

Andre was never a jobber to the stars. I think of a Jobber to the Stars as someone like Koko B. Ware. He got to beat jobbers, got to have an entrance and a character, got interviews, but when he faced another superstar he generally lost. In kayfabe, Andre the Giant had never been beaten in 15 years until Hulk Hogan beat him at WrestleMania III. This wasn't true, but most of the fans didn't know that. Other than Hogan, he put over Warrior at live events. I believe he put over Randy Savage on some live events too. Still, he wasn't a jobber to the stars.

[Celgress]

Jan 30, 2013 12:53:06 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

None of the current full-time roster would be in top 10 of all time IMO

[Celgress]

Kayfabe wise -

1.) Hulk Hogan
2.) SCSA
3.) The Rock
4.) Ric Flair
5.) Andre the Giant
6.) Randy Savage
7.) The Undertaker
8.) HBK
9.) Bret Hart
10.) John Cena

[youlookfly]

Kayfabe? I would go with
1. Hulk Hogan
2. Stone Cold Steve Austin
3. The Rock
4. Cena
5. Undertaker
6. HBK
7. HHH
8. Bob Backlund
9. Ric Flair
10. CM Punk

(I don't include Bruno Sammartino because I believe that he would just, kayfabe wise, be outclassed by these guys. Plus, I never cared for him.)

[celticjobber]

My guess if WWE was to put out a kayfabe top 10 of all time:

1. Stone Cold Steve Austin
2. The Rock
3. John Cena
4. Andre The Giant
5. The Undertaker
6. Triple H
7. Shawn Michaels
8. Bret Hart
9. Macho Man Randy Savage
10. Hulk Hogan (he'd be much higher if he was on better terms with WWE)

Top 10 current roster:

1. John Cena
2. The Rock
3. CM Punk
4. Alberto Del Rio
5. Big Show
6. Sheamus
7. Randy Orton
8. Kane
9. Ryback
10. Dolph Ziggler