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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 31, 2013 0:53:22 GMT -5
shouldn't hold on to their heel mannerisms that got them over?
I hear too often about people complaining that when their favorite heels turns face, WWE takes away some of their edge and the heelish antics that they liked.
But then we get guys like The Miz, or Shawn Michaels in 1996.
I mean I can see the argument with Miz since he was getting boring as a heel and he was getting stale and relying too much on old tricks. But a guy like Shawn in 96...
it's like "haha that Shawn, he's such a dick. Look at him dancing and sticking his crotch in everyone's face". Then a face turn later "what a homo, I can't cheer for a man who keeps dancing and is essentially a male stripper".
Oddly it worked the other way for Batista
"dude what a freaking douchebag face" then a heel turn later, "I love Douchetista". Is it just that we're only reacting to these things because the audience as a whole is supposed to dislike these things? and once they accept it, we have to hate it because "they're doing it all wrong and, all of the sudden, the heel has a point"?
Heel Rock: Greatest thing that ever lived. Face Rock: Kind of a bully, egomaniac, too obsessed with penises yet counts success in life by vaginas consumed.
I'm not calling anyone out, or pointing out any hypocracy. I'm just asking. Who, as a great heel, if they turned face and kept most of their heelish tendencies, do you think you'd turn on pretty quick?
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 31, 2013 1:24:55 GMT -5
To me the answer to this is easily Vince.
I have no idea why he's a face now. He's such a jackass prick. I enjoyed watching Brock F5 him.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 31, 2013 15:56:51 GMT -5
It's more trying to stay ahead of the "Lowest Common Denominator".
Once WWE says "OK, everyone, it's OK to cheer for him now" and the dreaded Lowest Common Denominator accepts him, suddenly you don't look any better or any smarter than they do.
And lord knows we can't have that.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 31, 2013 16:00:18 GMT -5
To me the answer to this is easily Vince. I have no idea why he's a face now. He's such a jackass prick. I enjoyed watching Brock F5 him. It's because in his own way, the Mr. McMahon character is a "legend" and his very own presence brings back nostalgia towards the Attitude Era. Also the whole "He's a dick, but he's a dick to the bad guys so it's okay" factor.
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Post by cahuette on Jan 31, 2013 16:12:58 GMT -5
It's more trying to stay ahead of the "Lowest Common Denominator". Once WWE says "OK, everyone, it's OK to cheer for him now" and the dreaded Lowest Common Denominator accepts him, suddenly you don't look any better or any smarter than they do. And lord knows we can't have that. You know, you sound exactly like that here.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 31, 2013 19:50:31 GMT -5
JBL. He was a great heel. Kind of a neo-con hypocrite. A face version of that wouldve sucked. (In blue states anyway)
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