andrew8798
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Post by andrew8798 on Feb 1, 2013 15:09:15 GMT -5
On 24/7 this month
1. Hector, Chavo & Mando Guerrero vs Rock n Roll RPMs & Cactus Jack 2. (WCCW LTHW Championship) Jeff Jarrett vs Eric Embry 3. Jimmy Valient vs Wayne Bloom 4. (WCCW Texas Championship) Iceman King Parsons vs Brickhouse Brown 5. (AWA Tag & Womans Championship) Pat Tanaka, Paul Diamond & Madusa Micelli (w/DDP) vs Ricky Rice, Derek Dukes & Wendi Richter 6. (AWA TV Championship) Greg Gagne vs Ron Garvin 7. (Street Fight Lingere Battle Royal w/The Terrorist, Bambi, Peggy Lee Leather, Laurie Kynn, Brandi Mae, Malibu, Nina, Pocohantas & Luna 8. (Bootcamp Match) Sgt Slaughter vs Col Debeers 9. (WCCW Tag Championship) The SST (w/Buddy Robberts) vs Michael Hayes & Steve Cox 10. (Indian Strap Match) Wahoo McDaniel vs Manny Fernandez 11. (AWA vs WCCW Championship) Jerry Lawler vs Kerry Von Erich (Int Lawler) (Int Von Erich & Blackburn) 12. Rock n Roll Express vs Jimmy Golden & Robert Fuller
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Post by Kash Flagg on Feb 1, 2013 15:14:04 GMT -5
It's a solid card but just wasn't going to compete with the WWF and Crockett.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 15:20:24 GMT -5
Jimmy Valiant vs Wayne Bloom (AWA Tag & Womans Championship) Pat Tanaka, Paul Diamond & Madusa Micelli (w/DDP) vs Ricky Rice, Derek Dukes & Wendi Richter (AWA TV Championship) Greg Gagne vs Ron Garvin (Boot Camp Match) Sgt Slaughter vs Col Debeers (Indian Strap Match) Wahoo McDaniel vs Manny Fernandez The AWA-only matches. Yikes.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Feb 1, 2013 17:04:59 GMT -5
I literally JUST finished the Review a Wai for this show, it sounded dreadful.
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Post by willywonka666 on Feb 1, 2013 20:57:19 GMT -5
I remember the buildup for it and at the time I though they sounded like a super federation and then with Lawler out of the picture later, the house of cards fell.
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Post by ICBM on Feb 1, 2013 21:19:48 GMT -5
I remember marking out hard for this show. I watched awa on espn and of course being from tx, world class was a staple. But I had no idea who Lawler was. The espn AWA show was moths behind current events and I had only read about Lawler beating Henning. Until the match with Kerry, I had never seen Lawler work. He got great heat from me and my friends for diggin into his tights for twelve minutes before producing an inviisble chain or something and nailing Kerry with the unseen foreign object. Seriously go YouTube that match. He digs for like a minute straight several times. I swear if I didn't know better, the look on his face and his digging around would make me think he was enjoying looking at the Tarzan physique of Kerry Von Erich
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Feb 1, 2013 23:18:47 GMT -5
Seriously f*** the ending to that Lawler-Von Erich match. That kind of great wrestling screw job ending that really didn't make sense and just served to piss you off.
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Post by siredger on Feb 1, 2013 23:28:47 GMT -5
Unfortunately, looks it was deemed a necessary booking to satisfy both parties involved. No way that Fritz Von Erich would've allowed his son Kerry to be booked to lose clean to Jerry Lawler and same probably goes with Verne Gagne with Lawler as his champion. And we all know how that turned out eventually....
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Feb 2, 2013 1:14:53 GMT -5
Lawler/ Von Erich is my favorite of the King's matches.
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Post by ICBM on Feb 2, 2013 8:04:03 GMT -5
Read Lawler's book, IIRC, Kerry was supposed to lose via dirty finish anyway then get the win back clean later. Kerry cut his arm up in the dressing room before the match and it had to be worked into the finish of the match
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Post by ICBM on Feb 2, 2013 12:57:35 GMT -5
My above post should start with "I read" not just read. That sounds like me giving you snarky orders
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Post by Mac on Feb 2, 2013 15:41:00 GMT -5
After the Wahoo/Fernandez match Blackburn and Gagne said the referee should have stopped the match a long ways in and they'd make sure that didnt happen again in the future (happened in the next match)
That was match itself as Tatsumi Fujimai was there for some reason. After the match Wahoo said something along the lines of the fued wouldnt end until he hd a gun and he wanted Fernandes to die.
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Post by molson5 on Feb 2, 2013 19:23:20 GMT -5
Was Lawler a babyface in Memphis at this time? Or was he just not working in Memphis at the time and was instead just doing the AWA run. If you watched Memphis TV then, would Lawler have been hyped up as the local hero trying to take world titles in hostile foreign AWA/WCCW territory? I lived through this era but a lot of it still confuses me.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Feb 2, 2013 20:14:12 GMT -5
Was Lawler a babyface in Memphis at this time? Or was he just not working in Memphis at the time and was instead just doing the AWA run. If you watched Memphis TV then, would Lawler have been hyped up as the local hero trying to take world titles in hostile foreign AWA/WCCW territory? I lived through this era but a lot of it still confuses me. No Lawler was a face in Memphis at the time. I saw a video on YT of Memphis taking place when Lawler was stripped of the AWA title, and put over USWA title as more importanat than the AWA title, and Lawler cut a face promo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 10:14:01 GMT -5
I remember wanting to go in-person, it was in Chicago. (I also wanted to go to Super Clash '85, but I was told we couldn't.)
If you look at the card on paper (more like on-screen), it looks like a pretty good show. Then you read some of the results, and that makes you happy you didn't have to pay for it, even if it was only $14.95 at the time. (Jimmy Valiant beats Wayne Bloom in 10 seconds. And, why is that on this show again?)
Timing was really bad. The WWF just had a Survivor Series Thanksgiving weekend and the NWA scheduled Starrcade around Christmas. The AWA got a pretty crappy spot sandwiched in between. If it had been scheduled in May (like when they used to have big shows), this probably would have had a better showing.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 3, 2013 11:58:56 GMT -5
Wow, I have no memory of Rock n Roll Express vs Fuller & Golden. Of course, it would happen in SMW a few years later, but I don't remember this match at all.
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Post by mrjl on Feb 3, 2013 12:25:10 GMT -5
so it looks like WWE didn't invent the Winner Takes All match
And I guess the Terrorist wasn't much of a threat
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Post by ICBM on Feb 3, 2013 17:20:50 GMT -5
As far as the sandwich between SS and starcade, yes I suppose so, but it was a hot time for wrestling and as stacked as that show was interpromotional-wise, it was a good sell that should've done better. If they could have gotten a couple of UWF transplants to Crockett's NWA and had them up against AWA or WCCW guys, they might have done better. Say Dr. Death vs Wahoo or Manny. Maybe Dan Spivey(could've been cheap). Then it looks like a real all out wrestling war since those guys would've been on TBS excuse me, WTBS in front of five million households every Saturday night.
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Post by sheikbaby on Feb 3, 2013 18:54:04 GMT -5
I just finished watching this on 24/7. Also read Dave Meltzer's recap of the event. Interesting show. The Lawler/Von Erich match was good. SST vs. Cox/Hayes was pretty decent as well. The funniest part for me is Manny Fernandez calling Tatsumi Fujinami a 'zipperhead' before his match against Wahoo McDaniel. Greg Gagne looks so out of place here. Didn't expect to see the Iron Sheik attack Sgt Slaughter either.
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