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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 9:15:43 GMT -5
Undertaker or Rock's Wrestlemania record. If you were a wrestler which kayfabe record would you rather have?
Undertaker pro - 20 wins. Zero defeats. Undertaker con - Never faced the top guy in the company on the biggest show. Never faced Hogan between 1990-1993, never faced Bret or Shawn between 1994-1997, never faced Austin or Rock between 1998-2001, never faced Triple H between 2002-2005 and never faced Cena since he's been on top (this one could change of course). Also, only 3 of the 20 matches were the main event and even then in each case there was arguably a bigger attraction each time (1997 Austin/Bret, 2008 Mayweather/Show, 2010 Cena/Batista).
Rock pro - Defeated the face of the 80's, the 90's and the 2000's all clean as a sheet in the middle of the ring on the big show. Rock con - The rest of his record isn't much to write home about. Lost three straight main events between 1999 and 2001.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 9:37:33 GMT -5
Undertaker beat Jimmy Snuka and Jake Roberts, two of the greatest to never hold championships. Then he beat super-dominant main eventer/upper midcard types in Bundy, Diesel, Sid, Kane, etc. Since then the people he's faced has been a who's who of secondary and tertiary faces and heels, with the occasional random super heavyweight thrown in.
Rock has beaten some of the best, but I don't think his final record is going to end up being that amazing. It took him three tries at Austin before finally beating him, and Cena is likely to get his win back this year (with the championship on the line, no less). Out of those three, he's only shown dominance against Hogan, a man who is twenty years his senior.
I'd say Undertaker's WM accomplishments are more impressive.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Feb 4, 2013 2:26:39 GMT -5
Undertaker con - Never faced the top guy in the company on the biggest show. Never faced Hogan between 1990-1993, never faced Bret or Shawn between 1994-1997, never faced Austin or Rock between 1998-2001, never faced Triple H between 2002-2005 and never faced Cena since he's been on top (this one could change of course). You could really say the same about all but the most recent of Rock's Mania matches; he didn't face, let alone beat Hogan until he was far removed from the top of the litter, and both times he faced Austin during his time on top, he lost. In other words, Taker by a landslide.
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Post by CM Parish on Feb 4, 2013 11:28:16 GMT -5
Undertaker or Rock's Wrestlemania record. If you were a wrestler which kayfabe record would you rather have? Undertaker pro - 20 wins. Zero defeats. Undertaker con - Never faced the top guy in the company on the biggest show. Never faced Hogan between 1990-1993, never faced Bret or Shawn between 1994-1997, never faced Austin or Rock between 1998-2001, never faced Triple H between 2002-2005 and never faced Cena since he's been on top (this one could change of course). Also, only 3 of the 20 matches were the main event and even then in each case there was arguably a bigger attraction each time (1997 Austin/Bret, 2008 Mayweather/Show, 2010 Cena/Batista). Rock pro - Defeated the face of the 80's, the 90's and the 2000's all clean as a sheet in the middle of the ring on the big show. Rock con - The rest of his record isn't much to write home about. Lost three straight main events between 1999 and 2001. Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels Career Vs Streak was the Main Event. 20-0 by a landslide.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 11:35:52 GMT -5
Even if Undertaker had never had any Wrestlemania matches but the two he had with HBK, he'd still be a strong contender for best Wrestlemania run.
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