Dolph is his own worst enemy

[PrinceD]

The guy does such a great job at selling moves and making other guys look good. He puts on awesome matches week after week, but i feel like they'd rather use him to put over guys like Sheamus & Del Rio. Now he's gotten some fans behind him, so they have to push him somewhat, but i feel like they don't look at him as being THE guy. He'll probably get a World title run, but i don't feel like they'll really get behind him and they'll only give him a short reign. Anyone else see this??

[comahan]

Never understood why that would work against someone. A heel who makes everyone look good is the perfect person to have on top with the title, in my eyes. He makes every challenger look amazing, then escapes with the belt by the skin of his teeth. Thats part of what made Flair such a great champion.

[BorneAgain]

Booker T actually made this point in an interview saying Dolph needs to be more selfish in the ring and focus more on making himself look good than others, otherwise he'll not get to a certain level.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

They don't see him as the guy. That's why he's going after the World Heavyweight Title and not the WWE Title.

[Straight Edge Scrotum]

In his DVD, Jake Roberts said that his role at one time was to take on all the up and coming heels and make sure that they were ready to step up to the next level and run a program with Hogan (who was THE man during that stretch).

I always thought that this was how the WWE viewed Ziggler, especially when his selling really started to get major attention. Granted, they haven't really filtered anyone through him but maybe that's how the company sees him, the perennial heir-apparent that never gets to the top.

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Feb 2, 2013 12:17:46 GMT -5 comahan said:

Never understood why that would work against someone. A heel who makes everyone look good is the perfect person to have on top with the title, in my eyes. He makes every challenger look amazing, then escapes with the belt by the skin of his teeth. Thats part of what made Flair such a great champion.

It sounds like a bs reason to hold someone down when it's really something political. "oh no, the heel, he makes the faces look too good." How dumb is that?

[Ryback on a Pole!]

I always dislike the attitude of making a guy a jobber because he excels at a certain part of his job. Doesn't seem fair to me.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

I don't think it's hurting his career too bad. He's good at making other wrestlers look good. That's why he's jobbing to John Cena and not JTG.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Feb 2, 2013 12:17:46 GMT -5 comahan said:

Never understood why that would work against someone. A heel who makes everyone look good is the perfect person to have on top with the title, in my eyes. He makes every challenger look amazing, then escapes with the belt by the skin of his teeth. Thats part of what made Flair such a great champion.

That's the thing though. Ziggler isn't the champ. He's the young up-and-comer that's knocking on the glass ceiling. He's at the point of his career where others should be going out of their way to make him look good, not the other way around.

I don't think it's gonna be a death knell for the guy but he's really not doing himself any favors. Sometimes, being a bit selfish in the ring is a good thing.

[TOK Is the Target Demo]

Problem with Ziggler is that the majority of his offence doesn't look too good. He has a nice jumping DDT, and a solid superkick, but he has no real finisher, or transition moves.

[fw91]

And every now and then he kicks the living shit of himself?

[MrBRulzOK]

Feb 2, 2013 15:22:33 GMT -5 fw91 said:

And every now and then he kicks the living s*** of himself?

Well he does take ALOT of ridiculous bumps.

[Mike Wooster]

Dolph, like Shelton Benjamin was, and like Alberto Del Rio appears to be, is better suited to be a face than a heel, where he'd be allowed to show off his abilities more, including his selling.

[youlookfly]

I think that the fact that Ziggler hasn't been given the chance to get over without a manager is most likely the reason that he isn't in the main event. WWE thinks that he HAS to have a manager or a briefcase to stay over, which is most likely true.

[paywindah]

Feb 2, 2013 15:25:49 GMT -5 Mike Wooster said:

Dolph, like Shelton Benjamin was, and like Alberto Del Rio appears to be, is better suited to be a face than a heel, where he'd be allowed to show off his abilities more, including his selling.

Except when you're a face, you don't get as many chances to do the ol' bump-and-feed that you do as a heel.

[Lt. Palumbo]

My favourite part of eatting sushi is the pickled ginger. I know, weird huh? but I like what I like. The only thing is; it can't all be pickled ginger oe what's the point? I need all the other parts of te sushi experience to make the pickled ginger any good. It all has it's place. Just because it's not the big draw for me doesn't mean it's not an integral part of the experience.

Just because Jake was never really in the title picture for an extended time doesn't make his career any less memorable or important. You need smaller roles too.

There's probably a circus metaphor I could have used too. Or...a movie one maybe, or tv.......say....Deadwood, I love Richardson, does that mean he should have had a more featured role? No, he had his place.


I'm always a little confused by how much everyone complains about their being no viable mid-card and minutes later they lament how everyone isn't a main eventer, it's just the way of it. You need a balance.

[lildude8218]

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[onestepplan]

Feb 2, 2013 19:04:31 GMT -5 paywindah said:

Except when you're a face, you don't get as many chances to do the ol' bump-and-feed that you do as a heel.

But he'd make the heat look amazing and he would break hearts during comeback cutoffs. One thing I always liked about face Shawn Michaels was even though he was the top face and the smark in me could say he's probably going over, he could still make me believe he was the underdog when he got in the ring. I think Ziggler has that too.