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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 3, 2013 18:04:46 GMT -5
Why do so many people think it is a given that they will fight at Wrestlemania? There has been zero indication that they will fight as the two have had NO interactions for years. Still, I see that pop up on so many people's list of what matches they expect for WM. Really, Brock/Taker is just as likely, if not more so based on Taker/Brock staring each other down at an MMA fight years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 18:08:31 GMT -5
I guess because they're both gonna need something to do at Mania and the setup pretty much writes itself. Punk is in the ring complaining about respect or something after he loses clean at EC then the lights go out and the gong hits. Easy.
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Post by Johawn on Feb 3, 2013 18:09:05 GMT -5
I think popular logic is "WTF is Punk going to do?" and "WTF is Taker going to do?" and the two've been sort of married and that's where we are.
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Post by gnr123 on Feb 3, 2013 18:10:10 GMT -5
Because it's more likely that it's going to be Triple H/Brock, so that leaves Punk with nobody else big but Taker.
That is, if they don't put Punk in the Rock/Cena match. And I hope they leave Punk out of the Rock/Cena storyline. So that leaves Punk with Taker. Imagine Punk the night after the Chambeer PPV. "I demand someone back there to show me some well-deserved respect!" GONG.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 18:11:56 GMT -5
That match will suck something fierce. They're both good except when they're in there with each other. No one will believe that Punk actually has a chance.
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Post by mizerable on Feb 3, 2013 18:13:39 GMT -5
Ryback would be the obvious choice for Punk. But I guess Ryback has to have his "WM3 moment" by Shellshocking Big Show. That should be really interesting.
Not really.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 3, 2013 18:33:23 GMT -5
I still think Taker/Sheamus could be a really good face vs. face match (providing Sheamus doesn't cut any goofy promos about it and takes it dead seriously).
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Post by modestgenius on Feb 3, 2013 18:37:12 GMT -5
Because a couple of months ago when Punk was talking about the respect the dirt sheets made a connection and a guess and went 'herp derp, they'll be fighting each other'
But now here we are, CM Punk not only no longer talks about respect but pretty much admitted he doesn't give a crap in reality about what people think about him - he just got pissy because of The Rock getting a title shot
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Post by celticjobber on Feb 3, 2013 18:39:39 GMT -5
Because the Brock vs. HHH rematch has seemingly been set in stone for months and was put into action last Monday when Brock attacked Vince McMahon. Not to mention, Brock wrestles a very physical hard-hitting style which in Taker's current bad shape couldn't be good for him. So with Punk presumably out of the WWE title match at Mania, Taker Vs Punk seems like a natural pairing. That is, if Taker is even able to work at 'Mania this year. Which is a big if. That match will suck something fierce. They're both good except when they're in there with each other. No one will believe that Punk actually has a chance. I keep reading that they never work good together, but how many times have they worked together? I only remember HIAC 2009, and that was a near squash match. Punk wasn't even close to being the level of a big star that he is now. So Taker likely didn't want to "give" him much in the match. Not to mention, that there was some heat between them at the time over a comment Punk made about WWE's dress code. Taker puts alot more time and preparation into his Wrestlemania matches (including rehearsals and planning everything out) than he would've for an ordinary 2009 PPV match against an upper midcard guy. |
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Post by whatamaneuver on Feb 3, 2013 18:39:58 GMT -5
Brock/Taker (HHH turns to the man he couldn't beat to avenge injuries to himself/HBK/Vince)
Punk / Rock / Cena
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Feb 3, 2013 18:41:25 GMT -5
I don't think Punk/Undertaker is that great of an idea either. I still honestly think the last match with Hunter should have been the goodbye. If he HAS to absolutely go out on a milestone, I say have him sit out the whole year until WM 30, have him win at call it a day at 21-0.
After four straight epics matches with two different WWE icons, him going against someone who is a rung or two lower is not going to seem like much of a contest in the kayfabe sense. It might work with him going against Lesnar since Brock is seen as this amazing machine, but I just don't think a match with Punk would be right for either guy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 18:48:09 GMT -5
Ryback would be the obvious choice for Punk. But I guess Ryback has to have his "WM3 moment" by Shellshocking Big Show. That should be really interesting. Not really. Manufactured Mania Moments TM are the worst. "Big Show has defeated Cody Rhodes, and won the IC title! Finally, Big Show has had his WrestleMania moment! Finally, his career is validated by this crappy 5 minute match!" Right. You know what would've made Ryback, more than some crappy "moment"? Putting the belt on him while he was hot, instead of waiting until Mania to let him hoist the Big Show in the 3rd match on the card. It'll look neat in highlights package but can't you shoot for more than that? After four straight epics matches with two different WWE icons, him going against someone who is a rung or two lower is not going to seem like much of a contest in the kayfabe sense. It might work with him going against Lesnar since Brock is seen as this amazing machine, but I just don't think a match with Punk would be right for either guy. That's a sad state of affairs. The semi-retired COO is a more believable threat than the guy that just held the WWE title for 430 days. I just want stuff to make sense. |
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Post by Johawn on Feb 3, 2013 18:48:45 GMT -5
I'd like to see Taker/Brock, too, tbh, but I don't want to see Brock lose again.
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Post by Medicinal Thunder Liger on Feb 3, 2013 18:58:48 GMT -5
People on the internet wrongfully speculating things around WM? no chance!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 18:59:56 GMT -5
I think the lights turning off/Shield interference could be used to bring back Taker.
I'd have The Heyman guys run Raw leading up to Mania, just going wild and making life hell for everyone that gets in the way. Then at EC, Rock beats Punk. Afterwards Punk signals for The Shield, lights off... Lights come on and Taker is standing in the ring surrounded by The Shield. He fights them off and stares down Punk to end the show. Of course by WWE's current logic, that ending would happen the night after EC.
It's not the most appealing feud but I can see them running it.
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Post by mizerable on Feb 3, 2013 19:01:17 GMT -5
People on the internet wrongfully speculating things around WM? no chance! How can you "wrongfully speculate"? Isn't part of the nature of speculation the chance of being wrong? |
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Post by Cronant on Feb 3, 2013 19:06:05 GMT -5
That's a sad state of affairs. The semi-retired COO is a more believable threat than the guy that just held the WWE title for 430 days. No offense, but you're kinda glossing over said semi retired COO being a 13 time world champion. |
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Post by celticjobber on Feb 3, 2013 19:24:58 GMT -5
That's a sad state of affairs. The semi-retired COO is a more believable threat than the guy that just held the WWE title for 430 days. No offense, but you're kinda glossing over said semi retired COO being a 13 time world champion. Yeah. And casual fans (the bulk of 'Mania buyers) likely still see HHH as a huge star and not "a semi-retired COO". |
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Post by Chip on Feb 3, 2013 20:46:42 GMT -5
I don't think Punk/Undertaker is that great of an idea either. I still honestly think the last match with Hunter should have been the goodbye. If he HAS to absolutely go out on a milestone, I say have him sit out the whole year until WM 30, have him win at call it a day at 21-0. For years now I've wanted Taker and Kane to go out together. Just spend a few months building Kane as this unstoppable monster heel, they have the match and Taker sacrifices himself to make sure he takes out Kane, the streak ends at 20-0-1. The issue is what the hell kind of gimmick match would allow for that, I always pictured it ending with Taker spearing Kane into a hole so maybe a Buried Alive match. |
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Post by mjolnir on Feb 3, 2013 22:18:05 GMT -5
I don't think Punk/Undertaker is that great of an idea either. I still honestly think the last match with Hunter should have been the goodbye. If he HAS to absolutely go out on a milestone, I say have him sit out the whole year until WM 30, have him win at call it a day at 21-0. For years now I've wanted Taker and Kane to go out together. Just spend a few months building Kane as this unstoppable monster heel, they have the match and Taker sacrifices himself to make sure he takes out Kane, the streak ends at 20-0-1. The issue is what the hell kind of gimmick match would allow for that, I always pictured it ending with Taker spearing Kane into a hole so maybe a Buried Alive match. 'Taker hitting a dump truck to unload mounds of dirt onto them as he spears into and fights with Kane inside the grave would be a pretty epic visual. Literally fighting till the end with each other. |
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