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Post by darbus alan on Feb 6, 2013 17:49:57 GMT -5
Again, none of that invalidates his point. Game "journalism" is rife with rumor-mongering and ridiculously sensationalist headlines, especially the blogs masquerading as journalism like Kotaku, D-Toid, Joystiq, etc. His attitude is irrelevant when the results speak for themselves.
And again, the CVG guy apparently cut parts of that discussion to make himself look better. It becomes a he said, she said thing there, but CVG already has a pretty lousy reputation anyway, well before this X-Surface stuff started up.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 6, 2013 17:59:43 GMT -5
Again, none of that invalidates his point. Game "journalism" is rife with rumor-mongering and ridiculously sensationalist headlines, especially the blogs masquerading as journalism like Kotaku, D-Toid, Joystiq, etc. His attitude is irrelevant when the results speak for themselves. You act as if only game journalism is like that, though. ALL entertainment journalism is like that, from film, to music, to even sports.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 6, 2013 18:07:48 GMT -5
Again, none of that invalidates his point. Game "journalism" is rife with rumor-mongering and ridiculously sensationalist headlines, especially the blogs masquerading as journalism like Kotaku, D-Toid, Joystiq, etc. His attitude is irrelevant when the results speak for themselves. You act as if only game journalism is like that, though. ALL entertainment journalism is like that, from film, to music, to even sports. I actually don't, but other entertainment journalism isn't relevant to my interests. I'm sorry for having standards.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 6, 2013 18:09:02 GMT -5
You act as if only game journalism is like that, though. ALL entertainment journalism is like that, from film, to music, to even sports. I actually don't, but other entertainment journalism isn't relevant to my interests. I'm sorry for having standards. Sports journalism isn't relevant to your interests? Really?
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 6, 2013 18:10:21 GMT -5
If that was true it would mean your all games would be worthless when that generation came to an end as there'd be nothing for them to connect too, I bet that server (?) would go down a few times while it's live too.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 6, 2013 18:11:29 GMT -5
Was talking mainly about entertainment journalism. Sports journalism is its own thing. And I get pretty angry about the poor standards ESPN has. And the gossip pit of bullshit that is the hockey offseason.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 6, 2013 18:13:06 GMT -5
Again, none of that invalidates his point. Game "journalism" is rife with rumor-mongering and ridiculously sensationalist headlines, especially the blogs masquerading as journalism like Kotaku, D-Toid, Joystiq, etc. His attitude is irrelevant when the results speak for themselves. And again, the CVG guy apparently cut parts of that discussion to make himself look better. It becomes a he said, she said thing there, but CVG already has a pretty lousy reputation anyway, well before this X-Surface stuff started up. The results don't speak much. Again, he cited a very small amount of sites compared to the amount that actually exists, and those he did cite were either not famous enough to be influential or not even gaming sites at all. And again, considering he is a liar (that's the point of his article) and a hypocrite (as shown by his tantrum against a site for doing what he wanted them to), you have to wonder how much of what he's written is actually true and how much is bending the facts or outright making them up. He does have a point in saying you shouldn't trust anything you read though, and that's exactly why I'm not trusting him. And also, it's the first time I see anyone question Kotaku and Joystiq's integrity, especially when they frequently get accolades from gaming developers (just look at the amount of Kotaku articles linked to by Steam). And finally, I'll second Koda in saying that this problem is present in all medias, it's not specific to gaming journalism and it isn't worse there than anywhere else.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 6, 2013 18:19:07 GMT -5
gamejournos.com/Here's a blog filled with examples of incompetence, stupidity, and poor integrity, especially from certain Kotaku writers. Very coarse language, though. goodgameswriting.com/And this is its much more positive counterpart that highlights good writing about video games. Still some coarse language. Also, never take a Media Ethics class if you don't want the current state of journalism in all spheres to send you into a seething rage or turn you into a bitter cynic about the whole thing.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Feb 6, 2013 18:32:15 GMT -5
I heard the next-gen consoles won't even play NEW games, either!!!!
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 6, 2013 18:41:02 GMT -5
gamejournos.com/Here's a blog filled with examples of incompetence, stupidity, and poor integrity, especially from certain Kotaku writers. Very coarse language, though. goodgameswriting.com/And this is its much more positive counterpart that highlights good writing about video games. Still some coarse language. Also, never take a Media Ethics class if you don't want the current state of journalism in all spheres to send you into a seething rage or turn you into a bitter cynic about the whole thing. IE, like the person who runs the blog in your first link.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 6, 2013 18:44:44 GMT -5
Websites are run by page views. They'll publish anything they need to to get them and have think if they slap rumor on it that it makes them more responsible. It doesn't.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 6, 2013 18:56:38 GMT -5
The guy who ran Game Journos makes me look like sunshine and lollipops, yes.
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Post by celticjobber on Feb 6, 2013 19:07:10 GMT -5
Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. With so many rumors like this about both systems, I have no doubt that they're atleast considering it. And I know that most game companies consider 2nd hand game sales as almost the same thing as outright piracy.
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 6, 2013 19:18:47 GMT -5
When it comes to game news, I usually just stick to Giantbomb since it's a personality based website that, once you know who you match up with between the crew, is just a fun combination of experienced guys sharing their thoughts on recent games and the business in general.
That said, Steam shows that if you price it right, you don't have to worry about used game sales. I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox would do this (they probably won't) it would have a horrific backlash...for a while. Given the fickle nature of the industry it would lead to a giant amount of people clamoring for the next Halo and all would be good again (re-cue that Boycott Fail pic from earlier in the thread).
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Post by CM Dazz on Feb 6, 2013 20:13:51 GMT -5
Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. With so many rumors like this about both systems, I have no doubt that they're atleast considering it. And I know that most game companies consider 2nd hand game sales as almost the same thing as outright piracy. Considering is the key word there. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft/Sony float shit like this out there just to get a feel for what the reaction would be. They certainly wouldn't be the first companies to do stuff like that.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Feb 6, 2013 20:22:11 GMT -5
Ah, this rumor again. Don't swear it, no company would be this inept to enact this feature. Especially Microsoft; a company that was so hellbent on overtaking Sony that they rushed out a console without any regard to it's design (this causing the massive # of RRODs).
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