Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 13, 2013 19:46:56 GMT -5
Did they use thermal imaging to figure out he was the only one in the cabin? It's not enough just to say " Well, they MIGHT have used it". Considering how the police went about finding him, I think that's a fair question.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Feb 13, 2013 20:32:33 GMT -5
Did they use thermal imaging to figure out he was the only one in the cabin? It's not enough just to say " Well, they MIGHT have used it". Considering how the police went about finding him, I think that's a fair question. Absolutely, it is. We definitely need to learn certain things about this still. Caught a new CNN interview midway through, and someone who analyzed the tape addressed the fire claim. It seems like he glossed over the BURN THIS f***ER DOWN statement and instead talked about the tear gas being extra flammable, mentioning the slang of 'burners' used for them. Eh...I hope this isn't going to be a case of them covering up what really seems to be an intentionally created fire. If they did it to get him out, be honest. We don't need any other messy blemishes in this case; just honesty.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 13, 2013 21:13:31 GMT -5
I wonder if my cabin insurance covers "being torched by police"?
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 13, 2013 21:57:06 GMT -5
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Rican
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Post by Rican on Feb 13, 2013 22:01:27 GMT -5
Oh God, there are gonna be Dorner truthers aren't there?
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 13, 2013 22:04:41 GMT -5
Oh God, there are gonna be Dorner truthers aren't there? There already are, I read some of the comments of the CNN article... who are again neglecting to mention the man did kill non-police personnel. which once again teaches me stop reading comments on anything.
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nWoElite
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Post by nWoElite on Feb 13, 2013 22:16:04 GMT -5
NEWZ:
Turns out Donner was NOT in the cabin, it was Te'o 's GF.
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Post by Orange on Feb 13, 2013 22:17:29 GMT -5
Oh God, there are gonna be Dorner truthers aren't there? As Skelldertaker said, there already are. There's a conspiracy site I read for teh lulz that is all over this story, and they're going on about how he wasn't inside and it was instead a hostage and it's all a conspiracy and they're all in on it etc. etc. etc.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 13, 2013 22:32:23 GMT -5
NEWZ: Turns out Donner was NOT in the cabin, it was Te'o 's GF. Great, now Te'o's going to tell the story of how he talked to her just before the cabin went up in flames.
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 13, 2013 23:14:43 GMT -5
I'm not going to subscribe to the "Dude, he's still alive" stuff but I will be insanely skeptical about "The fire wasn't intentional" when a video with audio has someone shouting "Let's burn this [cabin] down!" Admittedly, it could have been a worked up deputy who was told to shut his mouth and then blah blah tear gas blah...but it's still suspicious on that point.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 14, 2013 1:12:55 GMT -5
I'm not going to subscribe to the "Dude, he's still alive" stuff but I will be insanely skeptical about "The fire wasn't intentional" when a video with audio has someone shouting "Let's burn this [cabin] down!" Admittedly, it could have been a worked up deputy who was told to shut his mouth and then blah blah tear gas blah...but it's still suspicious on that point. Yeah, they're going to need to explain some of the comments on the scanner before I believe they didn't intentionally burn it down. Just so no one gets the wrong idea, I'm not defending nor supporting Dorner. I don't want anyone to think because of how critical I've been of the LAPD in this thread that I somehow think he's some kind of folk here. He isn't. He's a sociopathic murderer with a homicidal grudge who killed people who weren't even involved with the police. I just think the police need to be held responsible and be completely honest with the public. Especially now since they're under more public scrutiny than any other time since the Rodney King incident/L.A. riots.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 14, 2013 3:15:27 GMT -5
From the wording of the CNN article it sounds like the house didn't catch fire till two hours after those statements were made.
also if the tear gas things give off heat and landed in the right spot near one of Dorner's ammo dumps that would explain what ignited.
But I do believe the LAPD need to held responsible for the actions they took to apprehend him. (like panicking and shooting at anything with a passing resemblance to what they were looking for.)
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 14, 2013 4:58:56 GMT -5
Oh God, there are gonna be Dorner truthers aren't there? As Skelldertaker said, there already are. There's a conspiracy site I read for teh lulz that is all over this story, and they're going on about how he wasn't inside and it was instead a hostage and it's all a conspiracy and they're all in on it etc. etc. etc. Ah, those conspiracy theorists. Quite amazing how they manage to expose carefully crafted state if not country-wide cover-ups in minutes and never get into any trouble despite them claiming that the conspirators will do everything in their power to kill you the instant you say anything about it.
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ICBM
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Post by ICBM on Feb 14, 2013 5:59:10 GMT -5
The internet has given the world a voice and apparently they are choosing to use it by creating conspiracy theories. The thing with theories like that is, they are often more fun than the plain old truth. In 33 yrs on earth I have learned that the most obvious answer is usually the right one. Cabin burned down as reported with him inside. Some police likely wanted their own justice but couldn't because of how public this became
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Post by CM Dazz on Feb 14, 2013 6:37:21 GMT -5
EVERYTHING is a c-o-n-spiracy now. Dorner, Sandy Hook, Aurora, 9/11, you name. Also, EVERYTHING is the CiC's fault. Doesn't matter if it's 43, 44, and will eventually be 45's fault in four years. Hope I left that vague, yet clear enough... Really creepy behavior IMO. On the other hand, this is bizarre: m.nydailynews.com/1.1262828How do you find a wallet & driver's license in the burnt out cabin, while the charred body needs to be identified through forensic means? Either way, it's just more material for the c-o-n-spiracy theorists videos they'll be posting on YT.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 14, 2013 18:56:29 GMT -5
He's dead
Confirmed on CNN
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nWoElite
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Post by nWoElite on Feb 14, 2013 19:04:05 GMT -5
He's dead Confirmed on CNN Ok, so who won the poll?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 21:39:45 GMT -5
I'm not going to subscribe to the "Dude, he's still alive" stuff but I will be insanely skeptical about "The fire wasn't intentional" when a video with audio has someone shouting "Let's burn this [cabin] down!" Admittedly, it could have been a worked up deputy who was told to shut his mouth and then blah blah tear gas blah...but it's still suspicious on that point. Yeah, they're going to need to explain some of the comments on the scanner before I believe they didn't intentionally burn it down. Just so no one gets the wrong idea, I'm not defending nor supporting Dorner. I don't want anyone to think because of how critical I've been of the LAPD in this thread that I somehow think he's some kind of folk here. He isn't. He's a sociopathic murderer with a homicidal grudge who killed people who weren't even involved with the police. I just think the police need to be held responsible and be completely honest with the public. Especially now since they're under more public scrutiny than any other time since the Rodney King incident/L.A. riots. I'm really baffled by the Dorner apologists who don't recognize that he's just as heinous in this as the cops have been. I really get a kick out of some people I've read presenting that story of Dorner taking that dudes car without violence and letting him take his dog as a story of "well golly gee I guess he's not such a bad guy after all, see?". Yes, this brought to light that certain people under the LAPD are absolute scum, and will probably skate even though there are glaring issues that need to be addressed, but just because they're bad guys doesn't make Dorner a good guy. It's a shitty story about a handful of shitty people.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 14, 2013 21:41:20 GMT -5
Yeah, they're going to need to explain some of the comments on the scanner before I believe they didn't intentionally burn it down. Just so no one gets the wrong idea, I'm not defending nor supporting Dorner. I don't want anyone to think because of how critical I've been of the LAPD in this thread that I somehow think he's some kind of folk here. He isn't. He's a sociopathic murderer with a homicidal grudge who killed people who weren't even involved with the police. I just think the police need to be held responsible and be completely honest with the public. Especially now since they're under more public scrutiny than any other time since the Rodney King incident/L.A. riots. I'm really baffled by the Dorner apologists who don't recognize that he's just as heinous in this as the cops have been. I really get a kick out of some people I've read presenting that story of Dorner taking that dudes car without violence and letting him take his dog as a story of "well golly gee I guess he's not such a bad guy after all, see?". Yes, this brought to light that certain people under the LAPD are absolute scum, and will probably skate even though there are glaring issues that need to be addressed, but just because they're bad guys doesn't make Dorner a good guy. It's a s***ty story about a handful of s***ty people. Probably couldn't have said that any better myself. Great work.
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Post by Orange on Feb 14, 2013 21:47:05 GMT -5
As Skelldertaker said, there already are. There's a conspiracy site I read for teh lulz that is all over this story, and they're going on about how he wasn't inside and it was instead a hostage and it's all a conspiracy and they're all in on it etc. etc. etc. Ah, those conspiracy theorists. Quite amazing how they manage to expose carefully crafted state if not country-wide cover-ups in minutes and never get into any trouble despite them claiming that the conspirators will do everything in their power to kill you the instant you say anything about it. Oh, most definitely. And (and I did not come up with this, this was another poster a while back - I can't remember who, though) these are often the same people that believe Governments and the powers that be are not smart enough to take care of important things, but on the same hand they're able to meticulously craft these huge conspiracies with absolute ease. But, my God, are they fun to read. ;D
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