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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 0:56:56 GMT -5
Which game is the best to you and why?
I'm having a lot of fun with Fire Red and Leaf Green right now but I'm considering getting a nintendo ds just for Heart Gold and Soul Silver though.
I've yet to play anything past Red/Blue and Gold/Silver though.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Feb 11, 2013 1:22:08 GMT -5
HeartGold/Soulsilver, by more than a considerable margin. It offers a wealth of tweaks and polishes to what the series had evolved to at the point; depth of battle system, extras, raising and capturing et al, and finally gave Johto a bit of breadth since its slightly cramped debut, as well as the once butchered Kanto, and it still (STILL I TELLS YA) managed to cater to the nostalgia buzz that'd make folk think that Red/Blue are still relevant in any other aspect than one of novelty/historical value.
Of course, I am awaiting the appearance of both 'Here's Vanillish! It's gotten ridiculous', and the dependable, 'it's not the same!'. Of course it's not, you've hit puberty since its debut.
By the by, you botched the listing in the poll. Platinum follows on from Diamond and Pearl, you missed Crystal, and why does Yellow get a separate slot when Emerald and Platinum don't?
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 11, 2013 1:30:55 GMT -5
HeartGold/SoulSilver. Took what was already my favorite Pokemon games growing up(yes, I liked Gold and Silver more than R/B/Y growing up) and made it better.
Best of all, I hadn't played Gold and Silver in nearly a decade when I played SoulSilver and still made my way through the game almost entirely via memory. First time that has ever happened to me in gaming.
I also just don't get why Red/Blue is winning the poll right now. Nostalgia aside those are honestly the worst games in the series. So damn archaic in design, and graphically? Ugh. Just.....ugh.
If I ever want to revisit Kanto, it is via FireRed and LeafGreen. It is Red and Blue, just, you know, not ugly and archaic.
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Post by TCA on Feb 11, 2013 1:43:06 GMT -5
HeartGold and SoulSilver, for the reasons already said, I'll add that it's especially awesome because you get to have your Pokemon follow you around. I'll always have a soft spot for Red and Blue too. Gotta love the glitches.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 1:43:43 GMT -5
I'm going to say Yellow for nostalgia reasons (and for being a little bit better programmed than Red and Blue, though do have to miss MissingNo.), HeartGold / SoulSilver, and Black & White 2.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Feb 11, 2013 1:54:28 GMT -5
You goofed on Gold/Silver/Platinum, when it's suppose to be Crystal instead of Platinum. Platinum comes after Diamond/Pearl. Unless you were going for the "metals" theme...?
Anyways, Gold/Silver/Crystal for nostalgic reasons.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Feb 11, 2013 2:50:58 GMT -5
Gen 3 (Ruby/Sapphire/Crystal, FireRed/LeafGreen) is my First choice because in introduced Abilities and REALLY sort of re-balanced the game to be a more technically sound experience overall.
Don't get me wrong I LIKED the sereis from Gen 1 onward, but even the most ardent defenders can admit serious balance issues in the early installments (Before the Attack/ Sp. Attack Split, Ghost types being WOEFULLY underpowered, and types being underrepresented)
I also Chose B2/W2 Because everything about the game, from the standard compliment of pokemon (A smattering of the current Gen as well as previous Gen's instead of Making previous Gens a completely Post-Elite Four Endeavour). The fact that so many things ARE Post-Main Game (World Tourney, Breeding, etc) makes B2/W2 feel like what Black/White SHOULD have been.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Feb 11, 2013 3:00:18 GMT -5
B/W 2 because of this:
"Repel's effect wore off! Use another?".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 3:19:58 GMT -5
By the by, you botched the listing in the poll. Platinum follows on from Diamond and Pearl, you missed Crystal, and why does Yellow get a separate slot when Emerald and Platinum don't? Sorry about that, that's what I get for trying to go off the top of my head. I assumed that all those games were about the same as the other's in the series except for Yellow. That's a fair bit different from red and blue. I'm not sure about the differences of ruby and sapphire to emerald. Nor for platinum to diamond and pearl. I also forgot about crystal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 3:22:26 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post, but by the sound of this thread, it sounds like I wouldn't regret in purchasing a nintendo ds for Heart Gold and Soul Silver. Though, I don't think I'll be buying a 3ds as of yet.
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Post by spyda on Feb 11, 2013 7:53:59 GMT -5
i played ( Yellow - Gold - Fire Red - Emerald - Platinum - Soul Silver - White - White 2) & i loved all of them equally.
i voted for B2W2 because i can't stop playing W2 ;D
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Feb 11, 2013 9:11:36 GMT -5
The people voting R/B/Y are either blinded by nostalgia or have never touched THE definitive, perfect Pokemon games; HeartGold and SoulSilver.
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 11, 2013 9:41:18 GMT -5
The people voting R/B/Y are either blinded by nostalgia or have never touched THE definitive, perfect Pokemon games; HeartGold and SoulSilver. Or I just preferred it when it was possible to catch 'em all, to me that was the whole point of the game so I was disappointed when it became way too much hassle to complete your pokedex.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 11, 2013 9:51:34 GMT -5
The people voting R/B/Y are either blinded by nostalgia or have never touched THE definitive, perfect Pokemon games; HeartGold and SoulSilver. Or I just preferred it when it was possible to catch 'em all, to me that was the whole point of the game so I was disappointed when it became way too much hassle to complete your pokedex. Honestly,that may be the ONE argument that i like from people that say they like Gen I more.The only one. I agree that HeartGold SoulSilver is THE pokemon game
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Feb 11, 2013 10:14:29 GMT -5
The people voting R/B/Y are either blinded by nostalgia or have never touched THE definitive, perfect Pokemon games; HeartGold and SoulSilver. Or I just preferred it when it was possible to catch 'em all, to me that was the whole point of the game so I was disappointed when it became way too much hassle to complete your pokedex. There's always been hassle. Of the original 151: ~ Only 139 were in each Game (Version Exclusivity Necessitating Trades) and only 120 were Available in a single non-connected playthrough (Eeveelutions, Fossils, Starters, Hitmonlee/Chan) Yellow made the Starters all available ~ Trade Evolutions (Gengar/Golem/Alakazam/Machamp) Were also impossible without trades. At a MINIMUM you still needed two games if not 2 versions to "Catch 'em all" ~ Mew was Never legitimately distributed in the UK/EU and only distrbuted in certain locations elsewhere (Pokemon 2000 Stadium Tour was the only Guarenteed place) Metagame wise: ~ Balance issues were massive. Sp. Def was simply part of Defense, meaning that a Defensive Pokemon was simply a wall. ~ Ghost Types OFFICIALLY had a type advantage, but due to their Poison Secondary type were severely at a disadvantage. Add to that the only OTHER Type with a 2x Effectiveness (At the time) toward Psychics was Bug (A Type that has never really had the strongest of moves or representatives)
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Post by Yami Daimao on Feb 11, 2013 13:07:17 GMT -5
The people voting R/B/Y are either blinded by nostalgia or have never touched THE definitive, perfect Pokemon games; HeartGold and SoulSilver. There's nothing wrong with nostalgia.
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Post by mizerable on Feb 11, 2013 13:34:19 GMT -5
There's always been hassle. Of the original 151: ~ Only 139 were in each Game (Version Exclusivity Necessitating Trades) and only 120 were Available in a single non-connected playthrough (Eeveelutions, Fossils, Starters, Hitmonlee/Chan) Yellow made the Starters all available ~ Trade Evolutions (Gengar/Golem/Alakazam/Machamp) Were also impossible without trades. At a MINIMUM you still needed two games if not 2 versions to "Catch 'em all" ~ Mew was Never legitimately distributed in the UK/EU and only distrbuted in certain locations elsewhere (Pokemon 2000 Stadium Tour was the only Guarenteed place) Metagame wise: ~ Balance issues were massive. Sp. Def was simply part of Defense, meaning that a Defensive Pokemon was simply a wall. ~ Ghost Types OFFICIALLY had a type advantage, but due to their Poison Secondary type were severely at a disadvantage. Add to that the only OTHER Type with a 2x Effectiveness (At the time) toward Psychics was Bug (A Type that has never really had the strongest of moves or representatives) It's still better than needing to trade with an item, or waiting a certain day of the week to catch something or evolving through happiness. Yes, they are disadvantages to the first generation, however I always liked the first because it felt the most complete. It gives you PLENTY to do without overextending itself. While Gold and Silver introduced some cool stuff such as breeding, item holding, shinies, having multiple types among others, it also added some things that were just a pain in the ass. I don't feel like wandering around for hours looking for legendary dogs who will run away the first chance they get. The games after the first generation are tedious and try to stretch out gameplay, when there is plenty already. The ones that come later are even worse and I've never been a huge fan of most of the new Pokemon. A lot of which just look really cheaply drawn, and yes while there were cheaply drawn Pokemon in the first gen, there's a barrage of garbage from the later games. I'll pass, thank you.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Feb 11, 2013 13:34:22 GMT -5
The people voting R/B/Y are either blinded by nostalgia or have never touched THE definitive, perfect Pokemon games; HeartGold and SoulSilver. There's nothing wrong with nostalgia. That's why I just edge out the original Gold and Silver over the remakes. There's a magic in the original version.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Feb 11, 2013 13:44:56 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with nostalgia. That's why I just edge out the original Gold and Silver over the remakes. There's a magic in the original version. There is indeed magic in the originals; Gold and Silver took what Red and Blue began and made it better. I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours on my Gold as a kid. But for me, the remakes edge out the originals simply because it took a game that took a game and made it better, and made it better.
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Post by mizerable on Feb 11, 2013 13:55:55 GMT -5
Can you clone items through glitches?
No?
Oh...I'll stick with the original Gold and Silver then.
I hate when companies decide to "correct" games because they don't want you playing outside of the realm that they made possible.
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