Better to be a smoker or obese?

[Bone Daddy]

Like, if you had to pick one of those two things for your child, which way would you go?

I think I'd rather have my kid be a smoker and I hate smoking.

Discuss

[Crappler El 0 M]

Depends on how fat we're talking about. I would rather my child smoke than be severely obese. Being excessively obese leads to problems being in public and how people think of you and treat you. The health problems go without saying and could be worse than the the health effects of smoking.

[Mac]

Tehcnically I think the way they classify people as obese is just a bod mass/weight thing. I remember reading somewhere that John Cena would be considered obese. So based on that Im going with obese.

[Crappler El 0 M]

Off-topic, but the young lady in Bone Daddy's sig is easy on the eyes.

[kidglov3s]

I'll say obese. Smoking is a risk for more stuff, and the damage you've caused so far is irreversible even if you stop.

[Bone Daddy]

Feb 12, 2013 21:24:27 GMT -5 Crappler El 0 M said:

Off-topic, but the young lady in Bone Daddy's sig is easy on the eyes.

You obviously didn't see the "babe sig" thread.

Back on topic, sad as it seems I think smokers are more accepted in our culture than really fat people. Also, you sometimes here about people in their 20s dying from weight related complications, but that rarely happens with smokers (I think)

[Pervy Stone Cold]

I could probably still be quite happy about being obese as long as I took as adequate care of the rest of myself as I could. Obviously my heart would be an issue.

I'll take being obese and having a nice, pearly white smile over being skinnier but having bad breath, missing/decayed teeth which would make me self conscious about smiling. Not to mention the damage it can do to your tongue can make you lose your sense of taste or even your tongue ALTOGETHER well maybe not the entire tongue but a part of it.

[HMARK Center]

Depends what type of obesity we're talking about: one can be obese and still be pretty healthy, eating decently and doing moderate exercise.

Could also depend on the smoking: I've known people who are "social smokers" and might just have one or two while out with friends, but never more than that. Not great, but not a major health risk.

But if it's bad forms of each, I'll choose obesity: that's reversible. One can quit smoking, but the effects of long term addiction stay with you, unfortunately.

[agent817]

Feb 12, 2013 21:32:18 GMT -5 Bone Daddy said:

Feb 12, 2013 21:24:27 GMT -5 Crappler El 0 M said:

Off-topic, but the young lady in Bone Daddy's sig is easy on the eyes.

You obviously didn't see the "babe sig" thread.

Back on topic, sad as it seems I think smokers are more accepted in our culture than really fat people. Also, you sometimes here about people in their 20s dying from weight related complications, but that rarely happens with smokers (I think)

Not just that, these days, fat abuse has gotten worse since the days of calling someone a "fat ass" or "fatty." People act as if fat people are scum and they say some of the most vile things about them. What's even more worse is that some people act as if abusing fat people is okay. They think what they are doing is right, but abuse is never right.

[The_Don_Mecha]

I'd rather my child be obese (that's a horrible thing to say, by the way). That is something that can be changed over time. The side effects of nicotine, tobacco, and all the other carcinogens/agents in cigarettes are still not completely known. And, to be fair, being obese is generally more cost effective for health reasons (elective, cosmetic surgeries don't count toward this) than a long term cigarette smoker.

[BoilerRoomBrawler]

I am obese (for now, but I'm working on that) and a (non-militant) non-smoker. I already live my choice.

I'd rather my kid be obese because it's reversible. The health effects of smoking are not once you have them.

[Allie Kitsune]

Sorry, appearance-focused posters, but obese.

Watching multiple family members get the life literally choked out of them through smoking-enduced Emphysema will change your perspective on lifelong smoking.

[Glitch]

Feb 12, 2013 21:21:33 GMT -5 Mac said:

Tehcnically I think the way they classify people as obese is just a bod mass/weight thing. I remember reading somewhere that John Cena would be considered obese. So based on that Im going with obese.

It'll be a cold day in hell before I let my child only perform four moves!!

[Deleted]

Both my parents smoked. I smoke. My grandparents smoked. Obesity seems like the most avoidable thing in the world to me.

Smoker.

[Goldenbane]

It's probably just me, but smoking seems to age you really badly. My mom's niece is 15 years younger than her, but was a really heavy smoker (though no longer smokes now). She looks old enough to be my mom's mother. It's not just her, either. I've seen many people come into the gas station who were heavy smokers...younger than me by quite a few years, but looked to be as old or older than I am.

That said, as much as I agree with how horribly abused over weight people are, I still think it's better to be over weight over being a smoker...though smokers don't really have the same social problems that come with being overweight (heck, there's times where someone smoking a cigarette looks cool. Being fat never manages to pull off the "but cool" thing)

[mizerable]

Smoking is cool.

So I'll say smoking.

[Jazzman]

Let's see, something that causes cancer v. something's that leads to heart disease. Something that is one of the most addictive habits around v. something that trough hard work and good diet (like what I'm working on now) can be reversed.

Sorry cool kids, but I'll take obesity every day of the week and it isn't even close. I've been through all the fat cracks, hell I still kinda am, and yet it builds resolve in one's self that they really can do great things. It teaches you to look past the physical level and understand and appreciate the other parts of a human being. Plus, knowing that smoking killed my grandmother makes me take pause of that as well.

[turkeysandwich]

Feb 12, 2013 21:28:04 GMT -5 kidglov3s said:

I'll say obese. Smoking is a risk for more stuff, and the damage you've caused so far is irreversible even if you stop.

Yeah I agree. My parents had a friend that smoked for about 20 years, had quit smoking for about 25 years, yet still contracted emphysema. He couldn't even stand up without running out of breath and had to live with that for 5 years before he died.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

It depends on how obese we are talking about... like not being able to fit through doors obese?

Or like having a gut?

...or as stated being a body builder that weighs more than the body mass index assumes you should?

regardless I would probably choose obese.

Both my Paternal grandparents have died due to medical complications that stemmed from their smoking.

My grandfather died like 14 years ago of cancer and watching him seemingly waste away is one of the hardest thing I've had to deal with.

My grandmother who quit when I was like 7-8 died last year due to a series of breathing problems most of which stemmed from the fact that she smoked for as long as she did.

which is why I'd choose obesity, it's easier to reverse, most of the ailments associated with it kill you quicker.

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Feb 13, 2013 0:07:05 GMT -5 Goldenbane said:

Being fat never manages to pull off the "but cool" thing)