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Post by horsemen4ever on Feb 14, 2013 21:13:20 GMT -5
So in the world of animated children shows of the big three, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, and Disney and this sub networks, the news I have been hearing lately. It seems Nickelodeon is really ready to take off as the top cable networks for new kids animated shows.
First I hear Cartoon Network cancels Young Justice and Green Lantern. Now I hear the shows Nickelodeon and will have.
They have the Dragon Ball franchise, TMNT, the Legend Of Korra, and coming soon Yu Gi Oh, and Digimon, what a lineup in the Nickelodeon networks, they are stepping up their game, while Cartoon Network takes a step back, no only did they candel YJ and GL, but they are losing Star Wars Clone Wars to Disney.
I think Nickelodeon is in the process of being the best channel for childrens animated action shows, I guess if you count Adult Swim's Toonami, CN might still be number one, but I don't know if that counts.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 14, 2013 21:17:57 GMT -5
CN still has Looney Tunes Show and Adventure Time. They're hanging in there.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Feb 14, 2013 21:21:11 GMT -5
Well okay if you talk about comedy. CN has really canceled good shows, they canceled Sym Bionic Titan after one season, that is all you need to know about the CN brain trust. Than again look at the Nickelodeon live action shows, but that is another story for another day.
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Post by Orange on Feb 14, 2013 21:25:18 GMT -5
No. Not even close.
Looney Tunes Show
Regular Show
Adventure Time
So long as CN has those three shows, Nick won't be anywhere close, in my humble opinion.
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Post by Sc on Feb 14, 2013 21:25:45 GMT -5
In ratings, I'm pretty sure CN is third but it has been catching up these past few years thanks to shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 21:33:12 GMT -5
Well okay if you talk about comedy. CN has really canceled good shows, they canceled Sym Bionic Titan after one season, that is all you need to know about the CN brain trust. Than again look at the Nickelodeon live action shows, but that is another story for another day. They been showing it on Toomani, so it might have another chance.
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Post by Orange on Feb 14, 2013 21:41:00 GMT -5
I will say that Nick's live action shows, formulated and similar as they may be, easily surpass CN's live action shows. I think 'Level Up' is actually decent, but watching an episode of 'Incredible Crew' is enough to suggest that CN may never have a really good live action show. That's the one thing that'll seemingly always elude them.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 14, 2013 21:46:28 GMT -5
I will say that Nick's live action shows, formulated and similar as they may be, easily surpass CN's live action shows. I think 'Level Up' is actually decent, but watching an episode of 'Incredible Crew' is enough to suggest that CN may never have a really good live action show. That's the one thing that'll seemingly always elude them. To be fair, Nick's forte into original programming consisted of tween sitcoms (Clarissa Explains It All, Pete & Pete), whereas CN is trying something they were never meant to do or even should be doing.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 14, 2013 21:49:39 GMT -5
Hell no.
Korra and TMNT are the only good things Nick has. CN easily beats them in terms of quantity of good series.
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Post by Orange on Feb 14, 2013 21:52:34 GMT -5
I will say that Nick's live action shows, formulated and similar as they may be, easily surpass CN's live action shows. I think 'Level Up' is actually decent, but watching an episode of 'Incredible Crew' is enough to suggest that CN may never have a really good live action show. That's the one thing that'll seemingly always elude them. To be fair, Nick's forte into original programming consisted of tween sitcoms (Clarissa Explains It All, Pete & Pete), whereas CN is trying something they were never meant to do or even should be doing. True. But, man, you would think that they'd have at least one good live action show by now - and they just haven't.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 22:00:34 GMT -5
In terms of ratings, CN has always been in 3rd.
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Post by Talent Name on Feb 14, 2013 22:02:48 GMT -5
I would say the Hub is better than both of those stations because of shows they acquired
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Feb 14, 2013 22:34:14 GMT -5
To be fair, Nick's forte into original programming consisted of tween sitcoms (Clarissa Explains It All, Pete & Pete), whereas CN is trying something they were never meant to do or even should be doing. True. But, man, you would think that they'd have at least one good live action show by now - and they just haven't. I think, and this is just a theory mind you, that the issue is mindset going into the endeavor. Ok, Nick cut its teeth on live-action shows from Day 1, and never wrote "down" to kids. It treated its Audience and their problems with the same level of severity as an Adult Sitcom would treat the problems there. Even today their live action programming "Usually" doesn't minimize theit Audience's issues. Cartoon Network....kinda doesn't get that yet. Incredible Crew just seems to be this "LolRandom" mentality that really doesn't work because the underlying joke isn't funny. On the more "Structured" side, Level Up is so Fantasy-Oriented that they don't really face "Real" problems. All in all I think it comes down to differing philosophies. Nick simply wants to deal with "Real" issues affecting it's target Audience, and CN wants to provide an excapist fantasy for the same. In that regard, Nick SHOULD have superior Live-Action Programming and CN Superior Animated programming. Nick also tends to allow shows to stay on the air longer, and schedules its shows in better timeslots and tends to back it's own productions. Whereas Cartoon Network.....doesn't, to not belabor a point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 23:12:26 GMT -5
I would say the Hub is better than both of those stations because of shows they acquired Yeah I'd rank The Hub #1 as well. Batman, Superman, Animaniacs, Dan Vs., My Little Pony, Littlest Pet Shop, The original Transformers and G.I. Joe? Nick and CN would kill to have those in their lineups right now.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Feb 14, 2013 23:13:37 GMT -5
I would say the Hub is better than both of those stations because of shows they acquired Yeah I'd rank The Hub #1 as well. Batman, Superman, Animaniacs, Dan Vs., My Little Pony, Littlest Pet Shop, The original Transformers and G.I. Joe? Nick and CN would kill to have those in their lineups right now. I'd agree with this. The Hub is moving along nicely. I'm excited to see what shows they acquire in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 23:17:37 GMT -5
I think if Animaniacs get good ratings, they'll bring in Pinky & the Brain and Freakazoid to complete the trifecta.
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Post by Talent Name on Feb 14, 2013 23:32:46 GMT -5
The Hub also has The Super Hero Squad Show, the Live Action Dean Caine Superman show. I either watch The Hub or Disney XD just based on shows
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Post by horsemen4ever on Feb 14, 2013 23:33:28 GMT -5
The problem with the Hub it is just not as widely available as the other networks at the moment. So it is not going to compete ratings wise with the others at the moment.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 14, 2013 23:45:25 GMT -5
well dating back all to the way to the 90's I thought Nickelodeon was always ahead. I never watched cartoon network
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 14, 2013 23:48:13 GMT -5
I love Regular Show, Adventure Time, and have liked Looney Toons when I saw it. However, Nickelodeon has Korra and does not have Jonny Test, so it breaks even.
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