BRV
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Post by BRV on Mar 4, 2013 16:31:23 GMT -5
How exactly did things go to hell? Lesnar lost to Cena, but damn near killed him in the process. He then broke HHH's arm, and then beat him clean as a sheet at Summerslam (basically no selling a pedigree in the process), breaking his arm AGAIN. He's 1-1 since coming back, but has looked like a total uncontrolable monster in the process. I should've been clearer, I felt things went to hell directly after he returned and essentially up until Lesnar showed up on Raw, attacked Shawn Michaels and broke his arm. That was the all-business, devastating ass-kicking Brock Lesnar we know. However, he returns, F-5's Cena, and the hype leading into their match at Extreme Rules was essentially Lesnar pouting like a petulant child, playing the role of diva superstar demanding more money, a higher profile on the show, a live contract negotiation, blah blah blah. Lesnar shouldn't have had to say a word, he should've done what he does best: show up and brawl. And the whole lead-up to his match at SummerSlam was largely centered around him ducking Triple H and being goaded into the match after Stephanie McMahon called Paul Heyman's manhood into question. The moment Triple H said, "I want to fight you at SummerSlam" should've been enough for Lesnar. I just think when you have a legitimate monster like Lesnar, the last thing you do is make him out to be a money-chasing diva who is ducking other superstars in the process.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Mar 4, 2013 17:29:47 GMT -5
I still think Lesnar will beat Triple H again, especially if they want to keep him credible for Rock or Taker next year.
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Post by mrjl on Mar 4, 2013 18:27:57 GMT -5
He stood in the ring looking completely defeated and dejected muttering "Im sorry" at the crowd as he clutched his arm. How is that no selling? Maybe "no-sold" was an exaggeration. But I feel that if it were anyone other than HHH in that scenario, they wouldn't have been booked that way. The show would've instead ended with Lesnar standing tall over his laid out opponent or the opponent getting carried out or helped to the back by refs, officials, or jobbers if management were generous enough. maybe it's just me, but it doesn't make sense to be stretchered out with a broken arm and being helped out would prevent you from stabilizing it
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 4, 2013 23:12:26 GMT -5
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CH Punk
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Post by CH Punk on Mar 4, 2013 23:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Mar 4, 2013 23:51:16 GMT -5
Considering the tiny but not nonexistent amount of mainstream media coverage Swagger's been getting lately, him vs. Undertaker would probably be a bigger draw right now compared to 'Taker vs. Punk. Swaggie doesn't even have to worry about his lack of credibility, because him and Punk both have the same chance of winning. I'm sure Dutch Mantell could cut some good xenophobic anti-zombie promos.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Mar 5, 2013 15:45:34 GMT -5
So everybody, which sequel are you looking forward to more; Rock/Cena II: The Search For More Money or Brock/HHH 2: The Secret of the Ooze?
Myself, I'm leaning towards Rock/Cena II.
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Post by mainsupreme on Mar 5, 2013 16:06:52 GMT -5
Best outcome:
Punk defeats Undertaker Lesnar destroys HHH Cena beats Rock because Heyman and LEsnar interfere.
WM ends with Cena proclaiming: I'm a heyman guy!
Next RAW a face Punk stands against a heel Cena.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 5, 2013 17:33:53 GMT -5
After Raw, we can finally see where they are going with the undercard.
Looks like: -The Shield v. Sheamus, Orton, and Show (seems like a step down from the last PPV) -Mark Henry v. Ryback
That makes me think we'll get Chris Jericho v. Dolph Ziggler. Why would Jericho come back if he weren't in a match? Ziggler's probably the best option for him.
I think the rest is less clear. That leaves Team Hell No, The Miz, Antonio Cesaro, Wade Barrett, Kofi and Truth, Rhodes Scholars. Miz has been feuding with Antonio. Team Hell No has been feuding with PTP. Kofi and Truth are in a mild feud with Rhodes Scholars. Barrett is sort of lost since his mini-feuds with Dallas and Sheamus look to be over.
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Post by metylerca on Mar 5, 2013 17:34:00 GMT -5
Best outcome: Punk defeats Undertaker Lesnar destroys HHH Cena beats Rock because Heyman and LEsnar interfere. WM ends with Cena proclaiming: I'm a heyman guy! Next RAW a face Punk stands against a heel Cena. something tells me that a lot of.people around these parts want this to happen.
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Post by Error on Mar 5, 2013 17:36:22 GMT -5
Best outcome: Punk defeats Undertaker Lesnar destroys HHH Cena beats Rock because Heyman and LEsnar interfere. WM ends with Cena proclaiming: I'm a heyman guy! Next RAW a face Punk stands against a heel Cena. How would Punk turn face in all that? Beating Taker would be a kiss of death to any potential face turn? I'd love a new 2 Man Power Trip but this just doesn't work to me.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 5, 2013 17:40:14 GMT -5
At this point I'd just open the card with a five man scramble match of Jericho, Ziggler, Miz, Barrett, and Cesaro with the MITB on the line. Cliche to have Dolph put it on the line again, but it'd make for a fun bout at least.
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Post by 543Y2J on Mar 5, 2013 17:55:22 GMT -5
Best outcome: Punk defeats Undertaker Lesnar destroys HHH Cena beats Rock because Heyman and LEsnar interfere. WM ends with Cena proclaiming: I'm a heyman guy! Next RAW a face Punk stands against a heel Cena. How would Punk turn face in all that? Beating Taker would be a kiss of death to any potential face turn? I'd love a new 2 Man Power Trip but this just doesn't work to me. I would also love a new 2 Man Power Trip but I think it should be Punk and Lesnar. I can imagine them together beating the s*** out of people on a regular basis.
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Post by PrinceD on Mar 5, 2013 22:57:41 GMT -5
After Raw, we can finally see where they are going with the undercard. Looks like: -The Shield v. Sheamus, Orton, and Show (seems like a step down from the last PPV) -Mark Henry v. Ryback That makes me think we'll get Chris Jericho v. Dolph Ziggler. Why would Jericho come back if he weren't in a match? Ziggler's probably the best option for him. I think the rest is less clear. That leaves Team Hell No, The Miz, Antonio Cesaro, Wade Barrett, Kofi and Truth, Rhodes Scholars. Miz has been feuding with Antonio. Team Hell No has been feuding with PTP. Kofi and Truth are in a mild feud with Rhodes Scholars. Barrett is sort of lost since his mini-feuds with Dallas and Sheamus look to be over. I think they'd like to have Kane VS Daniel Bryan, but they also want to put as many people on the Mania card. Maybe have a tag team turmoil match with Kane/Bryan, Kofi/Truth, PTP, Rhodes Scholars. Then maybe Kane and Bryan break up them and feud after Mania. I could see the Miz & Cesaro continuing at Mania also. They've gone back and forth every week. Maybe a submission match at Mania. They could fit 9 matches this year if they cut out the musical performances and other vignettes. Then put Wade Barrett VS Bo Dallas at the pre-show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 8:26:24 GMT -5
Anyone else hope that they do a Paul Bearer tribute during Undertaker's entrance?
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Mar 6, 2013 15:39:53 GMT -5
I'm thinking that, to get as many people on the card as possible, they'll have Wade Barret & Antonio Cesaro team up with The Shield (not join forces, but a friendly alliance). Barrett was the leader of the Nexus, so he could like their style and Cesaro...they could figure a way to fit him in. That way, instead of a 6-Man Tag, we get a 10-Man Tag. The match would be...
The Shield, Wade Barret & Antonio Cesaro vs. Sheamus, Randy Orton, The Big Show, The Miz & Kofi Kingston
Also, with the New Age Outlaws (who should know be known as Old School Outlaws) reuniting and going on a brief nostalgia tour, I could see them taking on Team Hell No for the tag titles. They could even win it, have Kane & Bryan break up (they lose due to poor teamwork) and the next night on Raw, Rhodes Scholars could win the titles (or any other team for that matter).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 19:06:41 GMT -5
"If Undertaker beats Punk at Mania, he immediately gets out of the ring, grabs a bag from near the timekeepers table...and pulls out the urn. He then sets it down in the middle of the ring, does his pose, walks up the ramp, leaving the urn in the middle of the ring with the entire arena dark, save for a single spotlight on the urn."
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Post by mrjl on Mar 6, 2013 19:13:14 GMT -5
Best outcome: Punk defeats Undertaker Lesnar destroys HHH Cena beats Rock because Heyman and LEsnar interfere. WM ends with Cena proclaiming: I'm a heyman guy! Next RAW a face Punk stands against a heel Cena. that would be terrible.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Mar 6, 2013 21:40:35 GMT -5
Hey, wanna be part of a WrestleMania music video? Find out how, RIGHT HERE!
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Post by viking85 on Mar 6, 2013 21:45:31 GMT -5
i wonder if we will get an IC title match at wm29. remember when that meant something ?
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