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Post by britishbulldog on Feb 19, 2013 0:41:56 GMT -5
I love it, love it. It is absolutely current and a great way to get heat. My only concern is will Jack get the heat or will it go to Zeb?
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Feb 19, 2013 0:48:08 GMT -5
It'll more than likely fall on Zeb unless Swagger's promo skills increase (even though he is one of my favorite wrestlers....he only seems to work promo-wise as a goofy heel).
But then it makes me wonder how some of the wrestlers under the tutelage of Bobby Heenan, Slick, The Grand Wizard, etc. would've been treated by the fans if they didn't have someone do the talking for them.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 19, 2013 0:48:11 GMT -5
The gimmick is okay, but I miss his clean cut look and his spiky hair.
RIP Borderline Moderately Hot Swaggie.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 0:54:09 GMT -5
I like it for it's originality, but I don't think it's going to get much heat. I mean, as long as you aren't an illegal immigrant, what they're saying isn't especially offensive. Honestly, I could see them possibly getting more cheers than boos in a lot of cities, but in general I don't think it will garner much of a reaction at all. I've got to wonder how this is supposed to pull in the Mexican market, too, since they.. live in Mexico. Who knows, though, they might get more extreme with their promos as time goes on.
Good call whoever mentioned the Gadsden flag being used, by the way.
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Post by Toxik916 on Feb 19, 2013 0:56:04 GMT -5
I just want this to lead to the return of the real "Real American" and Hogan shows up and kicks his ass.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Feb 19, 2013 0:57:44 GMT -5
I will say that I'm expecting a Swagger/Colter squash tag match against Hacksaw and Slaughter before Wrestlemania....
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 19, 2013 0:58:40 GMT -5
I will say that I'm expecting a Swagger/Colter squash tag match against Hacksaw and Slaughter before Wrestlemania.... But aren't Hacksaw and Sarge also American Heroes? |
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Post by Richard on Feb 19, 2013 1:02:26 GMT -5
I will say that I'm expecting a Swagger/Colter squash tag match against Hacksaw and Slaughter before Wrestlemania.... But aren't Hacksaw and Sarge also American Heroes? Sarge gave up on his country but then again, he made trolled Canadians pretty good. Hacksaw seems more like Cesaro fodder though. |
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Post by bob on Feb 19, 2013 1:08:02 GMT -5
I hate this angle for reasons I can't expand on
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Post by chazraps on Feb 19, 2013 1:17:20 GMT -5
I'm enjoying because it's a caricature of a fringe group so far removed from legitimate politics that I can't even see it as mixing politics and wrestling (of which my hatred it second only to religion and wrestling).
The Alex Jones insistance tonight on commentary confirmed it. It's not a "Conservative who is for immigration reform" character, it's a fringe isolationist xenophobe conspiracy nut character, which is ripe for mocking.
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Post by mizerable on Feb 19, 2013 1:20:21 GMT -5
It's too bad they're helping ruin the "Don't Tread on Me" flag. That thing is awesome.
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Post by britishbulldog on Feb 19, 2013 1:21:19 GMT -5
It's too bad they're helping ruin the "Don't Tread on Me" flag. That thing is awesome. If I ever get a tat I want that inside the star part of the us flag. |
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Post by vanboxmeer on Feb 19, 2013 1:23:46 GMT -5
It's Dutch Mantell, Dutch Mantell's beard, and Swagger the parrot mascot who wrestles for him.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Feb 19, 2013 1:23:47 GMT -5
I like it for it's simplicity. It is current, true, but it's not original. JBL/Eddie had the exact same feud. Not that I'm complaining. JBL patrolling the border was one of the funniest moments in Smackdown history. Hope there's another moment like that one.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Feb 19, 2013 1:36:35 GMT -5
I'd love for it to associate with Cesaro's and his 'I love America' act, and they form a vague alliance where they're mutually oblivious to the Cesaro's Swiss-ness. It eventually takes on a Nazi slant, due to no other reason than Cesaro's capacity to speak German and Zeb's zealotry.
This, of course, leads to a Swagger face-turn, as a result of his inability to pronounce 'The SS'.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 19, 2013 1:39:09 GMT -5
I'd love for it to associate with Cesaro's and his 'I love America' act, and they form a vague alliance where they're mutually oblivious to the Cesaro's Swiss-ness. It eventually takes on a Nazi slant, due to no other reason than Cesaro's capacity to speak German and Zeb's zealotry. This, of course, leads to a Swagger face-turn, as a result of his inability to pronounce 'The SS'. Very American? |
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Feb 19, 2013 2:00:07 GMT -5
I like it for it's originality, but I don't think it's going to get much heat. I mean, as long as you aren't an illegal immigrant, what they're saying isn't especially offensive. Honestly, I could see them possibly getting more cheers than boos in a lot of cities, but in general I don't think it will garner much of a reaction at all. I've got to wonder how this is supposed to pull in the Mexican market, too, since they.. live in Mexico. Who knows, though, they might get more extreme with their promos as time goes on. Its supposed to rally the Mexican-American population who are proud and hard-working, and feel alienated by silly redneck propaganda. The angle would probably work better though if WWE claimed Del Rio was a citizen now. |
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Post by Ash Kingston on Feb 19, 2013 2:03:28 GMT -5
I think that Zeb (and his mustache) was a good choice to have be Swagger's mouthpiece, and hopefully this results in Swagger absorbing some of his mic skills so he can eventually do his own talking. Until then, though, it helps cover up that weakness... which is exactly what a manager should do, when you think about it.
Plus, Scruffy Swagger is so fun for some reason...
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Post by harry on Feb 19, 2013 2:09:23 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me why exactly Zeb is supposed to be the heel here? Outside of the "faces not like my own" and other subtle racial elements, what he's saying is exactly the truth. I guess they threw the racial elements in because he's supposed to be the heel?
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Post by britishbulldog on Feb 19, 2013 2:12:29 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me why exactly Zeb is supposed to be the heel here? Outside of the "faces not like my own" and other subtle racial elements, what he's saying is exactly the truth. I guess they threw the racial elements in because he's supposed to be the heel? Because of the way he goes about it. It is like with Punk when he was touting straight edge. He was right in what he was saying, but the way he said it caused heat. |
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