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[JTG Fan]

I think it's a work but I haven't cared about Elgin since early 2012 so I really don't care either way.

[mcmahonfan85]

FIRST FOUR PARTICIPANTS FOR SOTF '14
Nov 7th Columbus / Nov 8th Toledo, Ohio



It's an ROH tradition and this year it's coming to Columbus and Toledo: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST! The most historic tournament in Ring of Honor has been won by legendary athletes such as Bryan Danielson, Delirious, Tyler Black, and Jay Lethal. It's long been regarded as a critical step toward greatness in ROH and a huge accomplishment for whoever wins it. Today we have some information about the format as well as the first four participants!

SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST begins with a round of Qualifying Matches. In the past, we've seen everything from singles competition to tag matches to Four Corner Survival qualifiers! But whatever hand you're dealt in your qualifier, if you can pull out a victory it's only the beginning. The final of SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST is an absolutely grueling Six Way Elimination match to determine most dominant athlete of the entire tournament!

The first four participants in SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST 2014 are...

- MATT SYDAL: "Reborn" Matt Sydal has returned to ROH and now he has a chance to accomplish something he never has before: win SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST! Sydal participated in the 2006 tournament and made it into the finals, but he didn't manage to survive the eliminations. Now he as another shot against a whole new field of contenders! An impressive performance in this tournament would definitely put all of ROH on notice that Matt Sydal is back and better than ever!

- CEDRIC ALEXANDER: Recently, Cedric Alexander won the ROH Golden Gauntlet and secured a World Title shot. He's no stranger to enduring high pressure matches full of hungry competitors. However, this is Cedric's very first change at this particular opportunity. A victory in SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST would etch his name into ROH history and elevate him to the next level alongside past winners!

- HANSON: Hanson made his mark in ROH by dominating the 2014 Top Prospect Tournament and forcing the professional wrestling world to take notice. One of the most massive and strongest athletes in Ring of Honor, Hanson's size gives him an instant advantage over most opponents. He might be new to ROH, but he hasn't wasted a second when it comes to establishing himself as a force!

- RODERICK STRONG: The last of the four participants announced has the longest and most successful history in SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST. The numbers tell an intimidating story to the other contenders. Roderick Strong has competed in SEVEN Survival of the Fittest tournaments. He's been in the finals FIVE times. And in 2005, Roderick Strong won the entire tournament! There is no substitute for experience - as Roderick Strong would no doubt confirm - and he is the most seasoned tournament veteran.

And that's just the first four names entered into SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST! ROHwrestling.com will have all the updated tournament information. For tickets to November 7th in Columbus, click HERE! And for tickets to Night Two in Toledo, click HERE!

Survival of the Fittest: Night One
Friday, November 7th, 2014
Ohio Expo Center - Ohio Building
717 E. 17th Ave.
Columbus, Ohio
Bell Time 7:30 EST

Survival of the Fittest: Night Two
Saturday, November 8th, 2014
Seagate Convention Center
401 Jefferson Ave
Toledo, OH 43604
Bell Time 7:30 EST

[mcmahonfan85]

SYDAL VS COLE - RELOADED TOUR - LAKELAND, FLORIDA
10.25.14 The Lakeland Center



Ring of Honor is returning to The Sunshine State for a night of the best professional wrestling on the planet - and it'll all be taped for TV! So far, we know that one of the most anticipated rematches in ROH is finally going to happen. ROH World TV Champion Jay Lethal defends his title against ACH...with NO TIME LIMIT!

One of the first ROH stars announced for Lakeland was "Reborn" Matt Sydal! Ever since his return to ROH, fans have been feverishly speculating who might take him on and what new matches they would see. Sydal's very first return match proved that ROH isn't going to hold back when it comes to showcasing what this incredible athlete can do: he battled current IWGP Heavyweight Champion AJ Styles in a must-see contest!

On October 25th in Lakewood, Head Matchmaker Nigel McGuinness has lined up what many have already indicated would be their "dream match." But until now, there was no way to make it happen. Fate has intervened and now, finally, professional wrestling can host two stars who have risen to the top of the game:

MATT SYDAL VS ADAM COLE!

Adam Cole's ROH history as a hardworking, naturally gifted young man who developed an increasingly arrogant side as success started to come his way probably seemed a bit...familiar....to longtime fans. That's because we witnessed Matt Sydal undergo a very similar transformation in his earlier ROH days! And now that he's been ROH Champion and accomplished so much, Adam Cole looks at himself at the absolute pinnacle of ROH. He doesn't have time for worn out "has-beens" like Matt Sydal trying to remake themselves off of his fame.

But Matt Sydal is ANYTHING but worn out. He's renewed and REBORN and ready to throw everything he has at the former ROH Champion. This is a match so many have been begging for since Sydal returned and now it can finally happen in Lakeland! No doubt, Sydal sees so much of himself in Adam Cole. In this match, the past and future are ready to collide...and show why RIGHT NOW the absolute best in the world are right here in RING OF HONOR.

Keep checking ROHwrestling .com for even more updates on the Lakeland stop of the ROH: RELOADED tour. And don't miss your opportunity to be there LIVE! For tickets to October 25th at Lakeland, FL, click HERE!

RING OF HONOR WRESTLING
National TV Taping

Saturday, October 25th
6:30pm Doors Open / 7:30pm Bell Time

The Lakeland Center
701 West Lime Street
Lakeland, Florida 33815

Matches signed:
ROH World TV Title Match
Jay Lethal w/ Truth Martini vs ACH

Signed to appear...
- ROH WORLD CHAMPION: JAY BRISCOE
- “THE PHENOMENAL” AJ STYLES
- MARK BRISCOE
- MICHAEL BENNETT with MARIA KANELLIS
- THE DECADE (RODERICK STRONG, BJ WHITMER & JIMMY JACOBS) with ADAM PAGE
- CEDRIC ALEXANDER
- CAPRICE COLEMAN
- MOOSE & RD EVANS
- HANSON

PLUS MORE

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Oct 7, 2014 15:21:40 GMT -5 JTG Fan said:

I think it's a work but I haven't cared about Elgin since early 2012 so I really don't care either way.

Yeah I feel that after he became a notorious choker I stop caring about him, I just think it's ironic that for years he said that he was gonna be ROH champion, but he's getting more notoriety after this incident than he got during his whole reign.

[Starshine]

Oct 8, 2014 12:58:35 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Oct 7, 2014 15:21:40 GMT -5 JTG Fan said:

I think it's a work but I haven't cared about Elgin since early 2012 so I really don't care either way.

Yeah I feel that after he became a notorious choker I stop caring about him, I just think it's ironic that for years he said that he was gonna be ROH champion, but he's getting more notoriety after this incident than he got during his whole reign.

Fact is, they Tyler Black'd him. The company's notorious for failing to strike with the big time face wins when they're at their hottest. The worse thing is it's always the guys the company seems to put the most stock into at the time (see Tyler Black, Nigel McGuinness, Davey Richards).

[saintpat]

I'm a sucker ... I say it's a shoot.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Oct 8, 2014 20:35:53 GMT -5 Starshine said:

Oct 8, 2014 12:58:35 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Yeah I feel that after he became a notorious choker I stop caring about him, I just think it's ironic that for years he said that he was gonna be ROH champion, but he's getting more notoriety after this incident than he got during his whole reign.

Fact is, they Tyler Black'd him. The company's notorious for failing to strike with the big time face wins when they're at their hottest. The worse thing is it's always the guys the company seems to put the most stock into at the time (see Tyler Black, Nigel McGuinness, Davey Richards).

Also Homicide, I don't count the FIP belt as a world championship

[Starshine]

Oct 8, 2014 21:28:12 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Oct 8, 2014 20:35:53 GMT -5 Starshine said:

Fact is, they Tyler Black'd him. The company's notorious for failing to strike with the big time face wins when they're at their hottest. The worse thing is it's always the guys the company seems to put the most stock into at the time (see Tyler Black, Nigel McGuinness, Davey Richards).

Also Homicide, I don't count the FIP belt as a world championship

I don't know if I agree on Homicide. His reign had little steam when it took place, but I don't think it was them holding off so much that hurt him as it was how he was booked as champion, along with the limited list of viable contenders around him. His failure to get the title until 2006 was pretty much the big angle of the latter half of that year. It's not like he was constantly choking so much as he was never given a fair chance and his attitude rubbed management the wrong way (kayfabe) so they tried to keep him from the belt. With Black and the others previously mentioned, there wasn't any story besides the fact that they kept failing to get the belt when they were given the chance.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Oct 8, 2014 22:22:32 GMT -5 Starshine said:

Oct 8, 2014 21:28:12 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Also Homicide, I don't count the FIP belt as a world championship

I don't know if I agree on Homicide. His reign had little steam when it took place, but I don't think it was them holding off so much that hurt him as it was how he was booked as champion, along with the limited list of viable contenders around him. His failure to get the title until 2006 was pretty much the big angle of the latter half of that year. It's not like he was constantly choking so much as he was never given a fair chance and his attitude rubbed management the wrong way (kayfabe) so they tried to keep him from the belt. With Black and the others previously mentioned, there wasn't any story besides the fact that they kept failing to get the belt when they were given the chance.

D also choked out quite a few times, one time he was the biggest heel on roh, when the fans changed Homocide he exploded at the fans, nowadays most of the indy wrestlers fail at interacting with the crowd. I think it hurt him always losing to Joe.

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I still maintain that the right time to put the belt on Elgin coincided with the right time to put it on Adam Cole and it was a matter of picking one or the other. I'm glad they went with Adam Cole in that situation. Elgin eventually beating Cole for it was still a really strong moment and the book wasn't really written on his reign until it was forced to end.

[Starshine]

Oct 8, 2014 23:13:04 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Oct 8, 2014 22:22:32 GMT -5 Starshine said:

I don't know if I agree on Homicide. His reign had little steam when it took place, but I don't think it was them holding off so much that hurt him as it was how he was booked as champion, along with the limited list of viable contenders around him. His failure to get the title until 2006 was pretty much the big angle of the latter half of that year. It's not like he was constantly choking so much as he was never given a fair chance and his attitude rubbed management the wrong way (kayfabe) so they tried to keep him from the belt. With Black and the others previously mentioned, there wasn't any story besides the fact that they kept failing to get the belt when they were given the chance.

D also choked out quite a few times, one time he was the biggest heel on roh, when the fans changed Homocide he exploded at the fans, nowadays most of the indy wrestlers fail at interacting with the crowd. I think it hurt him always losing to Joe.

I considered that, but I think that was a different situation. At that time Joe was their guy, no question about it, and ROH was doing everything to make him as big as possible. Homicide was used to push Joe and in turn push the value ROH Title.

Homicide wasn't so much a choker, as he was just another victim of the unstoppable force that was Samoa Joe.

[Starshine]

Oct 8, 2014 23:18:06 GMT -5 @nichotine said:

I still maintain that the right time to put the belt on Elgin coincided with the right time to put it on Adam Cole and it was a matter of picking one or the other. I'm glad they went with Adam Cole in that situation. Elgin eventually beating Cole for it was still a really strong moment and the book wasn't really written on his reign until it was forced to end.

I disagree.

I think the right time to put the belt on Elgin was when Briscoe first won it.

[Dukect]

Oct 8, 2014 23:20:30 GMT -5 Starshine said:

Oct 8, 2014 23:18:06 GMT -5 @nichotine said:

I still maintain that the right time to put the belt on Elgin coincided with the right time to put it on Adam Cole and it was a matter of picking one or the other. I'm glad they went with Adam Cole in that situation. Elgin eventually beating Cole for it was still a really strong moment and the book wasn't really written on his reign until it was forced to end.

I disagree.

I think the right time to put the belt on Elgin was when Briscoe first won it.

Yes and then have Adam Cole beat Elgin at Final Battle last year bam problem solved

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Oct 8, 2014 23:19:38 GMT -5 Starshine said:

Oct 8, 2014 23:13:04 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

D also choked out quite a few times, one time he was the biggest heel on roh, when the fans changed Homocide he exploded at the fans, nowadays most of the indy wrestlers fail at interacting with the crowd. I think it hurt him always losing to Joe.

I considered that, but I think that was a different situation. At that time Joe was their guy, no question about it, and ROH was doing everything to make him as big as possible. Homicide was used to push Joe and in turn push the value ROH Title.

Homicide wasn't so much a choker, as he was just another victim of the unstoppable force that was Samoa Joe.

I dig that man, I agree with you, Joe make the belt a legit championship, everyone was a victim, either Punk or Cide where supposed to be their heirs on my opinion, it's a shame everyone kinda left at the same.
Hope that Roh learns from it's past mistakes and pushes the guys when they're hot not as they're about to leave...I still wonder what were Gabe's plans with Tyler, he was gonna be on top for 2 years, with enough time to push his eventual replacement not push Roddy out of nowhere.

[Starshine]

Oct 8, 2014 23:27:52 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Oct 8, 2014 23:19:38 GMT -5 Starshine said:

I considered that, but I think that was a different situation. At that time Joe was their guy, no question about it, and ROH was doing everything to make him as big as possible. Homicide was used to push Joe and in turn push the value ROH Title.

Homicide wasn't so much a choker, as he was just another victim of the unstoppable force that was Samoa Joe.

I dig that man, I agree with you, Joe make the belt a legit championship, everyone was a victim, either Punk or Cide where supposed to be their heirs on my opinion, it's a shame everyone kinda left at the same.
Hope that Roh learns from it's past mistakes and pushes the guys when they're hot not as they're about to leave...I still wonder what were Gabe's plans with Tyler, he was gonna be on top for 2 years, with enough time to push his eventual replacement not push Roddy out of nowhere.

I think he talked about it on his 'Gabe's Book' shoot he did not long after leaving ROH. Black was apparently supposed to win the title at Final Battle '08 from Nigel. But I don't know much more than that.

[kingoftheindies]

Oct 8, 2014 23:18:06 GMT -5 @nichotine said:

I still maintain that the right time to put the belt on Elgin coincided with the right time to put it on Adam Cole and it was a matter of picking one or the other. I'm glad they went with Adam Cole in that situation. Elgin eventually beating Cole for it was still a really strong moment and the book wasn't really written on his reign until it was forced to end.

I'm as big of an AC fan as you'll find, but the issue to me was that when they gave Jay Briscoe the belt they through away almost all the build that used on both Elgin and Jay Lethal as legit contenders for the ROH belt.

[Steveweiser]

The likes of Taeler Hendrix, Leah Von Dutch, Crazy Mary Dobson and Miss Natural Heather Patera are going to be part of tonight's show in the Chicago area. Veda Scott's heading there too.

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Oct 8, 2014 23:20:30 GMT -5 Starshine said:

Oct 8, 2014 23:18:06 GMT -5 @nichotine said:

I still maintain that the right time to put the belt on Elgin coincided with the right time to put it on Adam Cole and it was a matter of picking one or the other. I'm glad they went with Adam Cole in that situation. Elgin eventually beating Cole for it was still a really strong moment and the book wasn't really written on his reign until it was forced to end.

I disagree.

I think the right time to put the belt on Elgin was when Briscoe first won it.

Oct 9, 2014 8:06:02 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Oct 8, 2014 23:18:06 GMT -5 @nichotine said:

I still maintain that the right time to put the belt on Elgin coincided with the right time to put it on Adam Cole and it was a matter of picking one or the other. I'm glad they went with Adam Cole in that situation. Elgin eventually beating Cole for it was still a really strong moment and the book wasn't really written on his reign until it was forced to end.

I'm as big of an AC fan as you'll find, but the issue to me was that when they gave Jay Briscoe the belt they through away almost all the build that used on both Elgin and Jay Lethal as legit contenders for the ROH belt.

Good points, good points, I may rescind my point about Elgin/Cole. Though it can be argued that Jay Briscoe has more cache as a main eventer than Elgin. I'm kind of in a weird place with Elgin where I really like his matches, but it almost feels like his momentum was gonna fade out regardless because he's just not that dynamic. Like, World Champion or not I think the ROH fans would eventually get tired of his promos where he just goes "Jay Briscoe. You think this World Title belongs to you? Well you're wrong. I'm unbreakable."

[kingoftheindies]

Oct 9, 2014 12:26:29 GMT -5 @nichotine said:

Oct 8, 2014 23:20:30 GMT -5 Starshine said:

I disagree.

I think the right time to put the belt on Elgin was when Briscoe first won it.

Oct 9, 2014 8:06:02 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

I'm as big of an AC fan as you'll find, but the issue to me was that when they gave Jay Briscoe the belt they through away almost all the build that used on both Elgin and Jay Lethal as legit contenders for the ROH belt.

Good points, good points, I may rescind my point about Elgin/Cole. Though it can be argued that Jay Briscoe has more cache as a main eventer than Elgin. I'm kind of in a weird place with Elgin where I really like his matches, but it almost feels like his momentum was gonna fade out regardless because he's just not that dynamic. Like, World Champion or not I think the ROH fans would eventually get tired of his promos where he just goes "Jay Briscoe. You think this World Title belongs to you? Well you're wrong. I'm unbreakable."

I'm not a huge fan of Elgin either way, but at the end of 2012 he was at his peak. Honestly to me, by the time he won the title from Cole it wasn't so much as finally Elgin won the big one as much as it was ROH putting the belt on him because he had lost the big fight so many times already... and even then it would have made more sense had Jay beat Cole.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

I also want to say work, because Elgin wouldn't be so stupid to blackball himself from the only wrestling company that would employ him. The WWE already passed on him, Japan...well Mike fn Bennet went there instead of Elgin I think I read somewhere that NJPW straight told ROH that they didn't wanted Elgin.