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Post by babyfootball on Apr 26, 2013 15:08:08 GMT -5
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 26, 2013 18:31:34 GMT -5
I can't check any of the Youtube links right now, so I MIGHT be a fan...depends on what kind of emo we're talking about here.
Are we talking first wave DC hardcore emo, 90's emo, 2000's midwest emo? Or are we talking the shitty scene kid stuff that everyone called emo in the 2000s that had absolutely f*** all to do with the genre?
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Apr 26, 2013 18:38:58 GMT -5
I always wished this was a brand of music inspired by Emo Phillips. I have no idea what something like that would be like, but I'd hope it would involve this...
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Post by Viva on Apr 26, 2013 19:03:29 GMT -5
I love, love, love MANY of those bands.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Apr 26, 2013 20:27:41 GMT -5
Into it.Over It. played for me 6 years ago or so. Really cool dude, good music. At least then he was a bit pop/folk.
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Post by zeez on Apr 26, 2013 22:15:05 GMT -5
I'll have to check out some of those later but I've liked The Story So Far since their first album came out (they just released their second last month). I like a lot of heavy stuff but I'll always go for a good pop punk band.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Apr 26, 2013 22:43:00 GMT -5
I can't check any of the Youtube links right now, so I MIGHT be a fan...depends on what kind of emo we're talking about here. Are we talking first wave DC hardcore emo, 90's emo, 2000's midwest emo? Or are we talking the shitty scene kid stuff that everyone called emo in the 2000s that had absolutely f*** all to do with the genre?There's 2 branches that you could be referring to with the last one. Post-hardcore (i.e. anything that sounds like My Chem, and has more right to be called emo) Pop Punk (i.e. anything that sounds like Fall Out Boy/blink-182 ripoffs) and I personally take offense to you calling them shitty, or scene for that matter.
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Post by Viva on Apr 26, 2013 22:51:48 GMT -5
I can't check any of the Youtube links right now, so I MIGHT be a fan...depends on what kind of emo we're talking about here. Are we talking first wave DC hardcore emo, 90's emo, 2000's midwest emo? Or are we talking the shitty scene kid stuff that everyone called emo in the 2000s that had absolutely f*** all to do with the genre? Or are we talking about the EXACT mentality that the article beckons we back away from? Music is music. And for the record, no, none of these bands really fall into that genre. If you guys like Into It. Over It. Check out Pet Symmetry and Their / They're / There. Both are side projects of Evans. T / T / T being with guys from Cap'n Jazz.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 27, 2013 1:15:24 GMT -5
I can't check any of the Youtube links right now, so I MIGHT be a fan...depends on what kind of emo we're talking about here. Are we talking first wave DC hardcore emo, 90's emo, 2000's midwest emo? Or are we talking the shitty scene kid stuff that everyone called emo in the 2000s that had absolutely f*** all to do with the genre?There's 2 branches that you could be referring to with the last one. Post-hardcore (i.e. anything that sounds like My Chem, and has more right to be called emo) Pop Punk (i.e. anything that sounds like Fall Out Boy/blink-182 ripoffs) and I personally take offense to you calling them shitty, or scene for that matter. Don't get me wrong, not all of it was bad. MCR is actually one of my favorite bands of all time. Danger Days was weak as hell, but their first three albums are outstanding. I actually like a fairly decent amount of bands that scene kids were into a few years back. But for every band I enjoyed, there were about 10 that were garbage to me. And yeah, I'm honestly trying to get less defensive about the term "emo" these days, as the more research I did, the more I learned that it's been applied to genres over the years that have been tangentially related at best.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 27, 2013 1:17:05 GMT -5
There's 2 branches that you could be referring to with the last one. Post-hardcore (i.e. anything that sounds like My Chem, and has more right to be called emo) Pop Punk (i.e. anything that sounds like Fall Out Boy/blink-182 ripoffs) and I personally take offense to you calling them shitty, or scene for that matter. Don't get me wrong, not all of it was bad. MCR is actually one of my favorite bands of all time. Danger Days was weak as hell, but their first three albums are outstanding. I actually like a fairly decent amount of bands that scene kids were into a few years back. But for every band I enjoyed, there were about 10 that were garbage to me. And yeah, I'm honestly trying to get less defensive about the term "emo" these days, as the more research I did, the more I learned that it's been applied to genres over the years that have been tangentially related at best. I can't check any of the Youtube links right now, so I MIGHT be a fan...depends on what kind of emo we're talking about here. Are we talking first wave DC hardcore emo, 90's emo, 2000's midwest emo? Or are we talking the shitty scene kid stuff that everyone called emo in the 2000s that had absolutely f*** all to do with the genre? Or are we talking about the EXACT mentality that the article beckons we back away from? Music is music. And for the record, no, none of these bands really fall into that genre. If you guys like Into It. Over It. Check out Pet Symmetry and Their / They're / There. Both are side projects of Evans. T / T / T being with guys from Cap'n Jazz. Generally I agree with you. Old habits die hard. I was "fighting the good fight", so to speak, back in those days when everything and anything was being called "emo". And I'm actually familiar with Pet Symmetry and T/T/T, they're pretty fantastic stuff.
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Post by zeez on Apr 27, 2013 10:45:41 GMT -5
I never paid much attention to people who called a lot of those bands emo when it wasn't true. It's just generalizing from people who are either too lazy or too ignorant to give some good bands a chance. I'm used to hearing most of the music I like labeled as noise so it never bothered me any. It's their loss.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 28, 2013 11:28:19 GMT -5
Also, thanks to this thread, I have discovered Have Mercy, who I am REALLY enjoying. So thanks for posting this.
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Post by Manute Bol on Apr 28, 2013 13:04:50 GMT -5
Really annoying to see The Story So Far labeled emo. One of my favorite up-and-coming bands out there.
Also don't see how Cheap Girls come close to fitting under the emo umbrella. Another great band.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 28, 2013 13:44:52 GMT -5
Really annoying to see The Story So Far labeled emo. One of my favorite up-and-coming bands out there. Also don't see how Cheap Girls come close to fitting under the emo umbrella. Another great band. Well, what do you define as emo?
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Post by Manute Bol on Apr 28, 2013 15:16:53 GMT -5
Really annoying to see The Story So Far labeled emo. One of my favorite up-and-coming bands out there. Also don't see how Cheap Girls come close to fitting under the emo umbrella. Another great band. Well, what do you define as emo? Obviously the term has evolved a quite bit since the early days of emo bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, Rites of Spring, and Jawbreaker. Today I consider bands such as Taking Back Sunday, The Used, Thursday, Dashboard Confessional, Hawthorne Heights, and Senses Fail to all be emo. To me The Story So Far is hardcore influenced pop punk along the lines of New Found Glory and Set Your Goals. Cheap Girls are harder to categorize, but I think alternative would be the best description of their sound. I personally don't hear anything close to emo in either The Story So Far or Cheap Girls, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who would disagree with me.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 28, 2013 17:29:36 GMT -5
Well, what do you define as emo? Obviously the term has evolved a quite bit since the early days of emo bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, Rites of Spring, and Jawbreaker. Today I consider bands such as Taking Back Sunday, The Used, Thursday, Dashboard Confessional, Hawthorne Heights, and Senses Fail to all be emo. To me The Story So Far is hardcore influenced pop punk along the lines of New Found Glory and Set Your Goals. Cheap Girls are harder to categorize, but I think alternative would be the best description of their sound. I personally don't hear anything close to emo in either The Story So Far or Cheap Girls, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who would disagree with me. Ah, okay. So you definitely do know what you're talking about. I haven't actually listened to either of those bands, so I wouldn't know how to help you there, but yeah.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 19:03:03 GMT -5
Is Q and Not U considered "emo"?
If so I love their album power.
I also think Relationship Of Command by At The Drive In is one of the best albums ever made.
I also like the first Funeral For A Friend album
but I don't like any of the shitty wave of "mommy wont buy me a car now I hate my life and want it to all end and also nobody understands me weh weh weh" myspace emo/post-hardcore
Oh and almost forgot "Belive In Patterns" by I would set myself on fire for you is even better than every other album I mentioned (apart from maybe the At The Drive in one)
If anyone in this thread hasn't heard any of those 4 albums I reccommend you stop what you're doing and obtain them
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Post by Viva on Apr 29, 2013 0:37:09 GMT -5
Well, what do you define as emo? Obviously the term has evolved a quite bit since the early days of emo bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, Rites of Spring, and Jawbreaker. Today I consider bands such as Taking Back Sunday, The Used, Thursday, Dashboard Confessional, Hawthorne Heights, and Senses Fail to all be emo. To me The Story So Far is hardcore influenced pop punk along the lines of New Found Glory and Set Your Goals. Cheap Girls are harder to categorize, but I think alternative would be the best description of their sound. I personally don't hear anything close to emo in either The Story So Far or Cheap Girls, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who would disagree with me. I can't stress enough how important it is to read that guys article. And honestly, The Story So Far's newest record was pretty much all written about broken relationships and girl problems. Subject matter counts, imo. Emo is the lyrical content first and foremost.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 29, 2013 17:16:20 GMT -5
Is Q and Not U considered "emo"? If so I love their album power. I also think Relationship Of Command by At The Drive In is one of the best albums ever made. I also like the first Funeral For A Friend album but I don't like any of the shitty wave of "mommy wont buy me a car now I hate my life and want it to all end and also nobody understands me weh weh weh" myspace emo/post-hardcore Oh and almost forgot "Belive In Patterns" by I would set myself on fire for you is even better than every other album I mentioned (apart from maybe the At The Drive in one) If anyone in this thread hasn't heard any of those 4 albums I reccommend you stop what you're doing and obtain them Oh yes, Believes in Patterns is amazing. I Would Set Myself on Fire For You is a tremendously underrated band.
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Post by Manute Bol on Apr 29, 2013 17:26:30 GMT -5
Obviously the term has evolved a quite bit since the early days of emo bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, Rites of Spring, and Jawbreaker. Today I consider bands such as Taking Back Sunday, The Used, Thursday, Dashboard Confessional, Hawthorne Heights, and Senses Fail to all be emo. To me The Story So Far is hardcore influenced pop punk along the lines of New Found Glory and Set Your Goals. Cheap Girls are harder to categorize, but I think alternative would be the best description of their sound. I personally don't hear anything close to emo in either The Story So Far or Cheap Girls, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who would disagree with me. I can't stress enough how important it is to read that guys article. And honestly, The Story So Far's newest record was pretty much all written about broken relationships and girl problems. Subject matter counts, imo. Emo is the lyrical content first and foremost. I read it and don't agree with a lot of the bands he classifies as emo. I know it's debatable as everyone has their own definition, but I personally don't see many of those bands as emo bands, most notably The Story So Far and Cheap Girls. If any band that sings about relationships and girl problems are emo than does that make Descendents, MxPx, Blink 182, and The Ataris emo? I'd say those are all pop punk bands and I'm fairly sure they would categorize themselves as pop punk bands as well. Lyrical content matters of course, but I think more in the style it's written...the diction, the tone, the mood, the prose. I think of emo as much more poetic than pop punk. For the record I'm not a fan of 99% of what I consider emo so I have no bias or anything. I know people get touchy when it comes to music discussions so I'm trying not to condescending to any emo fans out there. Check out The Story So Far "Quicksand" or "Empty Space" and Cheap Girls' "Ft. Lauderdale" or "Parking Lot" and tell me if you would classify them as emo.
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