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Post by dlg3000 on May 11, 2013 21:54:09 GMT -5
I have a rather unpopular opinion. I don't think that Rob Terry or Velvet Sky are really THAT bad. They are both good in their roles even if they are average wrestlers. I know neither of them are rookies but I guess I don't know what constitues a horrible wrestler compared to other fans. To me a horrible wrestler doesn't have to be terribly limited in the ring because there are wrestlers like Drew McIntyre who don't have anywhere near the number of moves as AJ Styles but are good in the ring. To me a horrible wrestler would be an unsafe worker who is incompetent and looks lost in the ring, though I cannot think of any one in TNA especially who is really that bad. She is not talented like Mickie James, but Velvet is competent enough. I don't cringe during her matches or Rob Terry's matches. By the way, who in TNA would you say is or was a bad wrestler according to my definition of a bad wrestler and in your opinion, what does constitute a bad wrestler?
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Post by Dat Dude on May 11, 2013 21:58:38 GMT -5
I haven't watched Terry's matches in a long while, but I agree about Velvet. She's solid in the ring, not liability, can sell, got her pacing down, etc. As far as the worst female wrestlers, I seen a lot of WSU wrestlers that make her look like Steamboat.
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Post by SOR on May 12, 2013 1:25:03 GMT -5
They're both good. People just don't generally like Terry because he's a power wrestlers and doesn't really do anything in terms of high flying or mat work.
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 12, 2013 1:26:29 GMT -5
Rob Terry is very awkward in the ring. After all the years he spent training(FCW,OVW) and wrestling, he still moves like a greenhorn. He works hard in the ring but sometimes that's not enough. Velvet has been involved in the wrestling business for quite a while. She is a seasoned vet. But she should thank WWE for keeping Rosa Mendes employed because she's only the 2nd worst female wrestler in a national promotion with her still around. TNA pushes her way beyond what she's able to do. Again, one of the biggest problems with the Knockouts is once the match goes the 5 minutes mark, it starts to go off a cliff.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on May 12, 2013 5:08:13 GMT -5
They're both good. People just don't generally like Terry because he's a power wrestlers and doesn't really do anything in terms of high flying or mat work. Not true. I like Terry, I just don't see him as really good in the traditional match format. He is good in a spectacle sort of way.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on May 12, 2013 5:26:17 GMT -5
I like both. Neither bring much to the table. but they're not horrific in the ring. Actually, I hate Bigger Rob for turning on Big Rob.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 12, 2013 6:01:43 GMT -5
Rob Terry is improving at long last, he's developing chsrisma, but he's still a shade robotic in the ring, move, grunt, move with little fluidity and I'm not entirely sure he can wrestle an entertaining match where he's not the dominating powerhouse stomping a weasel.
Velvet Sky isn't awful, but I wish I could see what TNA and the live audiences see in her. She's okay but seems really forced and awkward as a face, I think Taryn Terrell manages to come off as more likeable than she does, and that's saying something.
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Post by celticjobber on May 12, 2013 6:05:39 GMT -5
I don't think Velvet's very good in the ring (she's probably a little better than Kelly Kelly), but she's one of my favorite female wrestlers.
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Post by Talent Name on May 12, 2013 9:04:11 GMT -5
Velvet can't really sell though, she was suppose to have a knee injury and didn't really sell it that well. Terry has such an awkward looking finisher but finally is getting some personality in the ring instead of generic power guy 10000.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2013 9:06:55 GMT -5
Velvet Sky isn't awful, but I wish I could see what TNA and the live audiences see in her. Boobs? Also, something about pigeons........I seriously still don't understand whatever the hell that meme is.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2013 11:42:35 GMT -5
Rob Terry is okay in short bursts and was at least fun when he was with Robbie E. Velvet is just not good and I honestly cannot figure out why TNA pushes her so hard.
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Post by jimmyjames on May 12, 2013 12:41:18 GMT -5
Rob Terry is like "The Groundhogs Days" of TNA. Dixie or Hogan sees him and his physique, thinks he'll be a star, sends him out, he gets no reaction, this goes on for a couple of months before it finally dawns on them he isn't over, his push ends and we don't see him for a few months until it starts all over again, when Hogan or Dixie see him again.
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Post by KleinND on May 12, 2013 13:37:22 GMT -5
Kris Lewie(SP?) is the worst wrestler, I've ever seen on TV, period. He just looks super awkward in the ring.
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Post by Dshuks on May 12, 2013 17:39:29 GMT -5
One of Velvet's worst weaknesses is that she can't really take moves that require her to do any lifting ( Rana's, Gail's octupus submission, etc). Which is pathetic as even most model turned wrestler Divas not named Rosa can do that. Even Audrey who's been wrestling for a little under two years can take offense. www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9S1GDnG59M
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Post by The Ichi on May 12, 2013 18:19:22 GMT -5
They're both good. People just don't generally like Terry because he's a power wrestlers and doesn't really do anything in terms of high flying or mat work. I like a lot of power wrestlers, I don't like Rob Terry because he's uninteresting. Plus he had one of the worst matches I have ever seen, with Jeff Hardy. As for Velvet, she's not very good but you can tell she wants to be, so I don't dislike her as much as most.
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Post by celticjobber on May 12, 2013 18:28:52 GMT -5
Velvet Sky isn't awful, but I wish I could see what TNA and the live audiences see in her. Boobs? Also, something about pigeons........I seriously still don't understand whatever the hell that meme is. I'm pretty sure Velvet's "pigeons" are her ass cheeks.
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Post by grunt on May 12, 2013 23:08:32 GMT -5
I like Bigger Rob. The guy might not be an Austin Aries in the ring, but he's got the size and can work a passable match. There's a place for that type of wrestler on a roster...
As for Velvet, she's not dreadful, she's just so-so. She got slightly better than a few years ago, when she was super awkward in the ring, and couldn't string together more than two moves before hesitating, but she's still only so-so. Which is kind of a drag whenever she gets pushed as the face of the Knockouts division, and/or the champ.
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Post by Glitch on May 13, 2013 17:10:26 GMT -5
The thing is that Rob needs to stop doing that growling face. It doesn't make him look tough, it makes me laugh at his awkward face. his whole physical mannerisms just look embarassing. He'd work better if he was quieter and got rid of that hair cut.
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