It's time for HHH to step away....

[SEAN CARLESS]

...from the ring.

I know he'll be back, and as an over act and a good wrestler I know there may be a program wherein he'll be needed one day, but for now, it's time.

Outside of some good matches with Undertaker at WrestleMania, a feud or rivalry with HHH hasn't resulted in anything good or beneficial for years. If you look at certain acts as potential or needed monetary investments (newly babyface Punk in 2011, monster Lesnar), HHH not only facing them, but BEATING them makes zero sense.

WWE keeps booking themselves into corners with HHH. Wherein, the stips given mean that HHH HAS to go over in some cases. So why do it? What's the point of HHH beating top acts or hell, even facing them, when they've established that he's now a semi-retired corporate guy? For all his talk of "this business", his booking is the complete opposite of how a part-timer with a rub to give should be used and booked. His ship has sailed. I don't think he needs to be jobbed out or anything. I just think he needs to stick to all the great things he's been doing OUTSIDE the ring.

The future looks really bright with HHH in charge. But only if he stops wrestling. His ego can't seem to separate itself from "this business" in that regard.

[rnrk supports BLM]

Just book a gauntlet match between him and the entire WWE roster, where Triple H will get to pedigree and pin every single guy, one after another.

Either his knees will finally give out and turn into jelly, or he just might finally get it all out of his system.

[Sparkybob]

If I'm not mistaken, Sheamus was the man who was built to end Trips wrestling career in 2010. So what I'm saying is that Hunter will always come back and have more matches until he gets a serious injury that scares him out of the ring.

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May 13, 2013 22:49:34 GMT -5 Sparkybob said:

If I'm not mistaken, Sheamus was the man who was built to end Trips wrestling career in 2010. So I'm saying Hunter will always come back and have more matches until he gets a serious injury that scares him out of the ring.

Even then when it came time for their match at Extreme Rules, Sheamus had to sneak attack him and hit his finisher something like five times to beat him.

[The Portable Stove]

I just had this thought about Kevin Nash that I think applies to Triple H.

Take him away from the ring, he's a great guy and seems cool enough to speak to. Put him in the ring, you suddenly want to never see or hear about him ever again.

[DiBiase is Good]

I agree. I will always mark for the guy and was one of his biggest fans in 2004/5 when people started to turn on him a bit. I started a thread at the time at the old board titled "I like HHH" and a few of us who posted in there called ourselves The Trips Express as we would always support him. But since his second quad tear, I've been bored of him. He's had some good matches since then but he needs to go now. If he leaves now, he can just about get away with "not staying too long".
As said above, he seems to be doing all the right things out of the ring. I want his legacy to be a guy who was truly one of the greats and then moved backstage to great success, rather than a guy who overstayed his welcome and "buried" talent.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Yeah, I agree with this too. He has a lot more value to give now outside the ring than he does in it.

[Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster]

Indeed

I think it summed up as simply outside of the ring HHH seems to be making all the right choices for the future of the WWE however inside the ring he is making all the wrong ones.

[WorkingInAColeMine]

But the ring is his HOME and OFFICE.

[OGJB is Slender]

Triple H needs to follow his best friend's lead and realize when it's time to walk away. He's not worth it anymore and hasn't been worth it for some time, since about 2008 to be exact. That's when I realized that Triple H had nothing more to offer. He does nothing to help anybody but himself with the exception of Undertaker, who is untouchable in a big match. He started this all off by putting Lesnar over huge, but since then, it's all been undone. WWE is going out of its way to ruin Brock Lesnar. He's had 3 matches, lost 2 of them, and is poised to lose a 3rd if Triple H has anything to say about it. "The Beast Incarnate" is 1-2 and has been made to look like a bitch. HHH's promo tonight was so self-aware. They know they've ruined Brock and his "mystique" & they don't seem to care. All for Triple H. It's 2013 and Triple H still has to be Triple H.

[kidglov3s]

May 13, 2013 22:59:05 GMT -5 OGJB is Slender said:

Triple H needs to follow his best friend's lead and realize when it's time to walk away. He's not worth it anymore and hasn't been worth it for some time, since about 2008 to be exact. That's when I realized that Triple H had nothing more to offer. He does nothing to help anybody but himself with the exception of Undertaker, who is untouchable in a big match. He started this all off by putting Lesnar over huge, but since then, it's all been undone. WWE is going out of its way to ruin Brock Lesnar. He's had 3 matches, lost 2 of them, and is poised to lose a 3rd if Triple H has anything to say about it. "The Beast Incarnate" is 1-2 and has been made to look like a bitch. HHH's promo tonight was so self-aware. They know they've ruined Brock and his "mystique" & they don't seem to care. All for Triple H. It's 2013 and Triple H still has to be Triple H.

It's shameful that Brock Lesnar will have had 3 of his 4 matches so far in this run with HHH, and the other with John Cena. What a way to make the most of it.

[Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster]

Also that promo HHH did tonight made a part of me wish that this sunday Brock would say f*** it and shoot on him for real.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

If Triple H wants to be in the ring, then I think he should be willing to compromise. If he wants to go over, then he should just be booked in short throwaway matches. Like just let him come out to the ring and have short five minute matches against guys like JTG or McGillicutty. HHH gets to go over, but the other guy gets TV time and gets to be elevated simply by being in HHH's presence and getting minor token offense on him. WWE can just advertise "Triple H in Action" to utilize what drawing power he has, but he doesn't need to have a big presence on the show.

[SOR]

You guys don't get it.

Triple H is one of the most over wrestlers in the world and is still capable of working a high quality match. I understand everyones a big Brock mark but Triple H is not burying him he's making the feud interesting.

I expect 50 responses about "naw but triple h bury erry1" or my personal favourite "Triple H is bad and can't work and isn't over" but that just isn't true. The guy has millions of fans and people want to see him wrestle. It's not like he's 65 he's only 43. Taker is older and I bet you all love him.

Give it a rest, every RAW it's "TRIPLE H HAS AN EGO" or "TRIPLE H HAS TO GO11111" it's boring now.

[OGJB is Slender]

May 13, 2013 23:42:25 GMT -5 SOR said:

You guys don't get it.

Triple H is one of the most over wrestlers in the world and is still capable of working a high quality match. I understand everyones a big Brock mark but Triple H is not burying him he's making the feud interesting.

I expect 50 responses about "naw but triple h bury erry1" or my personal favourite "Triple H is bad and can't work and isn't over" but that just isn't true. The guy has millions of fans and people want to see him wrestle. It's not like he's 65 he's only 43. Taker is older and I bet you all love him.

Give it a rest, every RAW it's "TRIPLE H HAS AN EGO" or "TRIPLE H HAS TO GO11111" it's boring now.

Triple H is the boring one. The crowds aren't even that hot for him anymore. His reactions are getting quieter and quieter and his matches ain't setting the world on fire either. The feud is tired. Brock should be getting a fresh feud and Triple H should be backstage being the boss. He's simply not needed.

[SOR]

May 13, 2013 23:50:22 GMT -5 OGJB is Slender said:

May 13, 2013 23:42:25 GMT -5 SOR said:

You guys don't get it.

Triple H is one of the most over wrestlers in the world and is still capable of working a high quality match. I understand everyones a big Brock mark but Triple H is not burying him he's making the feud interesting.

I expect 50 responses about "naw but triple h bury erry1" or my personal favourite "Triple H is bad and can't work and isn't over" but that just isn't true. The guy has millions of fans and people want to see him wrestle. It's not like he's 65 he's only 43. Taker is older and I bet you all love him.

Give it a rest, every RAW it's "TRIPLE H HAS AN EGO" or "TRIPLE H HAS TO GO11111" it's boring now.

Triple H is the boring one. The crowds aren't even that hot for him anymore. His reactions are getting quieter and quieter and his matches ain't setting the world on fire either. The feud is tired. Brock should be getting a fresh feud and Triple H should be backstage being the boss. He's simply not needed.

Everyone would be whining if Triple H just beat Lesnar at Mania and that was it. This is a way to make some money on a big re match and then I assume Triple H is going to go away for a little bit and Brock will win the feud.

If he just went away after Wrestlemania that would be burying Brock. Triple H is going to give Brock the victory in the third and final match and that'll be it for awhile.

It'll be refreshing not to see the "TRIPLE H BURIES EVERYONE!!!!" threads for awhile.

[MrBRulzOK]

Except from what I recall every Lesnar vs Triple H has been said to be long and drawn out or dull. They aren't bad matches, but they aren't exactly lighting the world on fire. The first one did well in making Brock looking like a monster, but other than that there's been no benefit. And honestly Triple H gains nothing from beating the guy. He's just a figurehead who occasionally wrestles. You shouldn't have him beating your money makers, and Brock can definitely make the company some more money if they booked him right.

Having Triple H go over him just makes no sense. Other than having a "happy" ending and boosting Trip's ego, exactly what upside has been there been to having him lose in this feud? Brock has come out of it looking alot worse than he did going in. They've done with the Cena/Brock feud and had triple the effect on him and his aura. And if Brock loses again well then he's pretty much turned into just another guy at this point. And at that point he's definitely not worth all the cash they're dumping into his lap.

There are dozens of better matches they could've used Lesnar for, but instead they've had him lose to guys who don't need the rub. It just seems like the Brock experiment has been a massive waste of money.

But at least we got a decent chunk of Paul Heyman out of it.

[Deleted]

Triple H has wrestled for a long, long time,
Now it's time for him to pass the torch.
He has defeated Y2Js and apex predators,
He has challenged the Streak of a Deadman.

It's time to pass the torch,
You're too old to wrestle, no more wrasslin' for you.
We're puttin' you in a hall of fame,
But we will put together DVDs about you.

And we will make sure that you're very well taken care of.
You'll tell us secrets that you've learned. Raow!
Your Game will mix with ours,
And we'll make a Cerebral Assassin baby.
Triple H, time to go!
You must give your sledgehammer to Brock Lesnar.
And a smaller one for C.M. Punk.
Go! Go! Triple H! Triple H!

[SOR]

May 13, 2013 23:55:59 GMT -5 MrBRulzOK said:

Except from what I recall every Lesnar vs Triple H has been said to be long and drawn out or dull. They aren't bad matches, but they aren't exactly lighting the world on fire. The first one did well in making Brock looking like a monster, but other than that there's been no benefit. And honestly Triple H gains nothing from beating the guy. He's just a figurehead who occasionally wrestles.

But he isn't just that. He's a 13 time World Heavyweight Champion (Or whatever it is) and has beaten almost every top WWE Star ever. Kayfabe wise he's a trained ass kicking machine that has battled everyone from Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Steve Austin, John Cena, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels etc etc.

Brock is that also but if you have Brock just beat the living crap out of Triple H each week because he's a former UFC guy you're burying Triple H and WWE as a whole. The feud needs to be equal.

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May 14, 2013 0:06:14 GMT -5 SOR said:

May 13, 2013 23:55:59 GMT -5 MrBRulzOK said:

Except from what I recall every Lesnar vs Triple H has been said to be long and drawn out or dull. They aren't bad matches, but they aren't exactly lighting the world on fire. The first one did well in making Brock looking like a monster, but other than that there's been no benefit. And honestly Triple H gains nothing from beating the guy. He's just a figurehead who occasionally wrestles.

But he isn't just that. He's a 13 time World Heavyweight Champion (Or whatever it is) and has beaten almost every top WWE Star ever. Kayfabe wise he's a trained ass kicking machine that has battled everyone from Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Steve Austin, John Cena, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels etc etc.

Brock is that also but if you have Brock just beat the living crap out of Triple H each week because he's a former UFC guy you're burying Triple H and WWE as a whole. The feud needs to be equal.

And equal would be fine, it's just now what they're doing. Instead as it stands, nothing Heyman says or Lesnar does ever actually gets to Triple H and he almost always stands tall at the end of the day, and every time he gives a speech about how pathetic they are it's pretty much depicted as being some enlightened view from someone far above them. If it were just something with the two brawling tonight and Triple H standing tall, whatever, but basically every week since Mania has just been about him getting his way and shrugging off everything they say or do to him. Then you have stupidity like Heyman claiming Triple H has never known what it's like to lose, where there's just this whole thing where even when they're trying to run him down everyone has to talk about how fantastic and dangerous he is.

Then there's the fact that they seem to be trying to gloss over Lesnar beating him at SummerSlam, and are only talking about Triple H winning at Mania. Rather than building this as a rubber match they're making it look like Brock's trying to get his win back.